Confirmed with Link: McDonagh + Miller to Tampa Bay for Namestnikov + Howden + Hajek + 2018 1st + conditional 2019 1st

[UAGoalieGuy]

So since the summer:

Out

• Stepan
• Raanta
• Nash
• Grabner
• Holden
• McD
• Miller
• Graves

In

• ADA
• 2017 #1 (Andersson)
• Namestnikov
  
• Howden
• Hejek
• Rykov
• Lindgren
• Spooner
• Belesky (50%)
• Brigas
• O'Gara
• 2018 #1
• 2018 #1
• 2018 #2
• 2018 #3
• Conditional 2019 #2 (could become #1)
• 2019 #7

 

[Synergy27]

Is Howden in any top 50 lists? I don't know who regards him as an excellent prospect.

Top 50 lists are meaningless. They might make you feel better but I wouldn't put any stock in their predictive power.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

What if we draft Dahlin?

My statement stands.

My read on the situation is that Tavares is looking for reasons to stay. If he doesn't find any, I can't see him taking a dump on the Islanders by moving across town into a team that is even further away from competing.

Dahlin alone won't change that, though feel free to bump this if he wins the ROY and Norris next year.

 

[Ghost of jas]

The last time I can recall elite talent being given up in this type of deal was Forsberg going in the deal for Lindros. This idea of teams acquiring elite talent when they move big time players is a myth. Brent Burns was traded at a younger age and brought back Setoguchi, Coyle and a #1 pick. I've listed the Pronger trade. Even when forwards have been traded, teams don't part with elite talent. Rob Blake was traded for Deadmarsh, Miller and a #1.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Gorton better hit the biggest grand slam ever with these picks. And then fire AV. It's quite exciting to think about how important this off-season is. It will likely determine Gorton's legacy as Rangers GM.

I guarantee they will mess it up and draft a goalie and a Dman or 2 in the first 2 rounds.

 

[Don Chytil]

Horak, Saarela had great tournaments. Where are they now? Fast was terrific, now a role player. It's a good tournament, but most good WJC players don't become above avg NHLers.

I followed Horak closely during that tournament and I have no idea how you can call his performance "great". Solid, sure. Saarela I agree, but there was always strong speculation that Saarela's game wouldn't translate. Not the case with Hajek.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I guarantee they will mess it up and draft a goalie and a Dman or 2 in the first 2 rounds.

Whats wrong with drafting a D? This draft is very deep at D. If a D is the best player on the board, you take him.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Excellent is probably an exaggeration. I like him a lot, I'd say he's our 3rd best skater prospect outside of Lias and Chytil. He was a guy I was hoping we'd get back in a McDonagh trade. Only thing I'm not thrilled about is I wanted Foote instead of Hajek but I can live with it. It's a good deal, it's not great or a "fleecing" but then again its really hard to ripoff Stevie Y

I would say below average deal, not awful though.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Whats wrong with drafting a D? This draft is very deep at D. If a D is the best player on the board, you take him.

It would totally suck if they got Boqvist. Who needs elite talent on defense.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think that is because people wanted a winger over another center, but going by Tampa's own fan and their rankings, Howden ranked higher.

Prospects | Bolt Prospects (Howden was ranked #2 while Raddysh was #4).

Here was another:



Though the poster also admitted if he had re-did that today that Hajek would be 5 or 6. Said he's really improved this season and had a very strong WJCs.

Yeah, its close, but I'd prefer Raddysh to Howden, I think he has more offensive upside. I actually remember this exact discussion on this board like a week or two ago.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah, its close, but I'd prefer Raddysh to Howden, I think he has more offensive upside. I actually remember this exact discussion on this board like a week or two ago.

I disagree but you have been consistent with this.

 

[eco's bones]

You want to give Karlsson a long term contract 7-8 years for $12M plus? He will be 29 years old at the start of his next contract. What is Karlsson doing for them? The Rangers are not one player away from winning anything.

When healthy he's the best D in the league and IMO barring major injury he's going to be on top of the food chain for a while.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Seems like some of these guys could be the Dubinsky's and Anisimov's used to trade for a Nash when the team is ready to take the next step.

Could also package some of them for Karlsson at the draft. We have cap-space. We could take on Ryan's contract.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Here's the write up of the trade from Custance



NHL Trade Grades: Lightning score big in adding both...

Surprise, Surprise from Custance...

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Top 50 lists are meaningless. They might make you feel better but I wouldn't put any stock in their predictive power.

What about top 20 lists?

They are important to an extent. Every team has prospects that they think will be good players for their NHL team. The impact players in the league usually come from the top of those lists.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I would say below average deal, not awful though.

Yeah I wish we would have gotten a bit more value, but I feel like this a deal you kinda have to make for a rebuild. It's hard to get complete value for guys like McD because team's are so reluctant to move top prospects. It feels a bit like the Kessel situation with Toronto. Kapanen, Harrington, and first isn't the best package for a top Goalscorer like Kessel but it had to be done.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

We aren't being serious about looking to get Karlsson right? All he will do is at best make us a bubble team next season and slow the rebuild. One more terrible season, another good pick in the 19 draft and we will be set for multiple cups in 2023-26.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Was thinking the same thing lol. Hopefully some of the rosier projections from this board come to fruition rather than what the article seems to indicate.

The Rangers still got a B grade for the trade which isn't bad. I would give Gorton an A- overall for what he did this last week.

 

[okmilk98]

We aren't being serious about looking to get Karlsson right? All he will do is at best make us a bubble team next season and slow the rebuild. One more terrible season, another good pick in the 19 draft and we will be set for multiple cups in 2023-26.

Yeah we really shouldn't be looking at him or Tavares. Just keep tanking and drafting for 2-3 more years

 

[stan the caddy]

Libor Hajek has one of those bust hockey names. I don't like it.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

But if Gorton and his player personnel people got it right, well, then the Rangers could have the makings of something. The first text I received in the wake of the McDonagh deal, in which the club acquired a WHL defenseman in Hajek, a WHL center in Howden, a first-rounder in 2018 and a conditional first in 2019, which becomes a second-rounder if the Lightning fail to win the Cup either this year or next, came from a talent evaluator who has never seen fit to pump the Blueshirts’ tires.
“Wow — great prospects for NYR,” he wrote in the unsolicited message. “High end.”
If the Rangers obtained a future franchise linchpin, Hajek, the Czech-born defenseman coming off an extremely impressive World Juniors, is most likely the guy. He is the Tampa Bay prospect who Gorton had targeted for weeks. He is the one, we understand, without whom the Blueshirts would not have gone through with sending their captain to a tax-haven reunion with Callahan, Girardi and Anton Stralman.

WOW, very interesting that it seems like HAJEK was the main player that the Ranger's were targeting. They must be extremely high on him....


https://nypost.com/2018/02/26/rangers-went-all-in-on-risky-rebuild-thats-only-ticket-to-glory/

 

[will1066]

Gorton missed the Point.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Whats wrong with drafting a D? This draft is very deep at D. If a D is the best player on the board, you take him.

You should always go BPA in the high rounds.

The Rangers will be in a position to get a very good defenseman at the top of the first round, depending on where in the lottery their pick is drawn. If they keep slipping in the standings, both Boqvist or Hughes would transform this defense.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

So since the summer:

Out

• Stepan
• Raanta
• Nash
• Grabner
• Holden
• McD
• Miller
• Graves

In

• ADA
• 2017 #1 (Andersson)
• Namestnikov
  
• Howden
• Hejek
• Rykov
• Lindgren
• Spooner
• Belesky (50%)
• Brigas
• O'Gara
• 2018 #1
• 2018 #1
• 2018 #2
• 2018 #3
• Conditional 2019 #2 (could become #1)
• 2019 #7

And so? What about Klein, Girardi, Hrivik, Jensen, Lindberg, Glass, Clendening, etc?

 

[E-Train]

WOW, very interesting that it seems like HAJEK was the main player that the Ranger's were targeting. They must be extremely high on him....


https://nypost.com/2018/02/26/rangers-went-all-in-on-risky-rebuild-thats-only-ticket-to-glory/

An Uncle Larry classic. Full Measure.