Proposal: McDavid to NYR

Johnnybegood13

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Fox would never waive.
Also too much cap NY cannot move.
Again, McD to NYR does not work
Shesty + for Drai + is potentially possible
Fox doesn't have a choice, his no move doesn't kick in till 25/26, as a Flames fan I would love his spoon fed ass traded to Edmonton.
 

Dan Kelly

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If Shesterkin is so replaceable then why tf have the Oilers struggled to get a goalie for 2 decades lmao.

And yes, a team can become better by trading the best player in the league...you know why? Because they're filling multiple holes on their shit team. There's a reason McDavid has just 21 career playoff games, the Oilers aren't a good team even with him and Drai.
Let's clear this up shall we? I knew posters would zoom in on only Shesterkin so let me say this....Shesterkin will never be traded for anyone ! If McD ever wanted to be traded only to the Rangers, then the replaceable players would be ones that the Rangers could afford to lose without too much damage to their roster. :rolleyes:
 

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Let's clear this up shall we? I knew posters would zoom in on only Shesterkin so let me say this....Shesterkin will never be traded for anyone ! If McD ever wanted to be traded only to the Rangers, then the replaceable players would be ones that the Rangers could afford to lose without too much damage to their roster. :rolleyes:

You missed the important part of my point...getting McDavid doesn't mean a team will see success if it creates another massive hole at goaltending.

Exhibit A: Oilers...have McDrai and they a) barely make or miss the playoffs or b) choke in the playoffs
 

Dan Kelly

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You missed the important part of my point...getting McDavid doesn't mean a team will see success if it creates another massive hole at goaltending.

Exhibit A: Oilers...have McDrai and they a) barely make or miss the playoffs or b) choke in the playoffs
You missed MY point....that Shesterkin WILL NOT be in any trade discussion for any other player in the league! And keep in mind that McDrai have been the victims of bad team building from a couple of GM's that they have played under. They can't win the cup all by themselves right? :facepalm:
 

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You missed MY point....that Shesterkin WILL NOT be in any trade discussion for any other player in the league! And keep in mind that McDrai have been the victims of bad team building from a couple of GM's that they have played under. They can't win the cup all by themselves right? :facepalm:

I don't think we're on different pages so why did you even reply to me.
 

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Ken Holland doesn't make huge roster player for roster player trades. The last time he made a player for player trade of significance was acquiring Hasek from Buf and Kozlov went the other way!

That is problem one and problem bigger than one, is McDavid is legit not getting traded unless he demands out. The money he brings to Edmonton alone through tickets, merchandise and anything else is worth more to EDM than trading him. Also, this trade would be bad for Edmonton as now they only have Draisiatl to do the scoring, who else will score for them?
 

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I wouldn’t do this if I was the rangers. They would be in the same spot Edmonton is in right now. No goalie, no good defensemen.
 

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I wouldn’t do this if I was the rangers. They would be in the same spot Edmonton is in right now. No goalie, no good defensemen.

You don't really know much about either team, do ya? NYR won't have any "good defensemen"? Fox isn't in the proposal. Trouba isn't. Nurse isn't. Bouchard isn't. Why is that so difficult to understand?
 

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You don't really know much about either team, do ya? NYR won't have any "good defensemen"? Fox isn't in the proposal. Trouba isn't. Nurse isn't. Bouchard isn't. Why is that so difficult to understand?
I know plenty about the Rangers. Schneider and Miller are regular players. Who’s gonna replace them? You don’t play with just Fox and Trouba. Why is that so hard to understand?
 

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I know plenty about the Rangers. Schneider and Miller are regular players. Who’s gonna replace them? You don’t play with just Fox and Trouba. Why is that so hard to understand?

Not to give this ridiculous thread any more traction (McDavid just isn't going to be traded), but Schneider/Miller would be replaced by Nils Lundkvist, Zac Jones, and Matt Robertson. Dylan Garand just had himself a heck of a season with Kamloops, too, so there is another potential goalie coming up through the system. None of that matters, because again, McDavid isn't getting traded. But if he were, and it somehow fit the cap (which it doesn't), and the Rangers could somehow pull it off without giving up ANY of Laf, Kakko, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Fox, Trouba, Lindgren, or the three kids on D from Hartford (going off of the OP proposal)? The Rangers would be stupid not to do such a trade. But again--it wouldn't work with the salary cap, and McDavid would never get traded in the first place.
 
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The reason the Rangers haven't made the playoffs the last few seasons is because they publicly did a rebuild due to being a perennial playoff team and contender, drafting in the ass end of the first round for 10 years. The reason the Oilers haven't made the playoffs despite drafting 1OA every year is because their organization is objectively a dumpster fire.

There's a difference in losing because you're trying to versus not knowing how to do anything else. These two organizations are not the same
1 you have no clue about hockey if you believe this . If you don't then you are trying to cause a pissing match . How did the NYR draft the 1st OA ?
2 You realize we didn't finish last but won the mclottery

3 The last part NYR wouldn't have a cup if the Oilers never gifted them 1/2 that team . Funny for such a great franchise why did Edmonton have to gift you all their talent they drafted in later rounds for your team to win ?
 
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McSuper

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actually, they did, the season after trading him away.

and the Oilers would never take that poor a package for McD
NYR could offer Shesterkin, Fox, Laff, and Kakko and the Oil likely still pass. (I wouldnt, but they likely would)
I doubt the would and if Holland did he should be fired . Fox likely would demand a trade out of Edmonton so he would probably be an Oiler for 3 minutes . Sent him to the flyer for Couturier + another D
 
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Ken Holland doesn't make huge roster player for roster player trades. The last time he made a player for player trade of significance was acquiring Hasek from Buf and Kozlov went the other way!

That is problem one and problem bigger than one, is McDavid is legit not getting traded unless he demands out. The money he brings to Edmonton alone through tickets, merchandise and anything else is worth more to EDM than trading him. Also, this trade would be bad for Edmonton as now they only have Draisiatl to do the scoring, who else will score for them?

If you can trade him and bring back the piece that win you a cup that makes the team more money . Tickets sale are always good . McDavid is improving on a team that sells out anyways .
 

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If you can trade him and bring back the piece that win you a cup that makes the team more money . Tickets sale are always good . McDavid is improving on a team that sells out anyways .

No trade you make, makes the Oilers better. Virtually every superstar ever traded brought back lesser in return.
 

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Lindros says Hi.

Oh yes, a farsical trade that can't come close to being repeated again. Unless the league allows money being dealt again, no McDavid level player will EVER come close to bringing back a better return! How about show me a trade that didn't involve money and/or a terrible ownership group situation, where the star brought back a better return.
 

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Oh yes, a farsical trade that can't come close to being repeated again. Unless the league allows money being dealt again, no McDavid level player will EVER come close to bringing back a better return! How about show me a trade that didn't involve money and/or a terrible ownership group situation, where the star brought back a better return.
That’s why a McDavid level trade will never happen. We
 

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well it seems NYR are cheap. If I have learned anything money talks.
so its simple, have one of your super rich just throw the money in. Call up the owner of the OILERS and tell him I will send you a check for 1 billion USD if you trade me McDavid. The have the super rich guy call McDavid and allow the trade and I will send you a 1 billion USD check. SO their you are problem solved. You guys get McDavid for sure, since it's noy your money then WHO CARES, RIGHT!
 

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Not to give this ridiculous thread any more traction (McDavid just isn't going to be traded), but Schneider/Miller would be replaced by Nils Lundkvist, Zac Jones, and Matt Robertson. Dylan Garand just had himself a heck of a season with Kamloops, too, so there is another potential goalie coming up through the system. None of that matters, because again, McDavid isn't getting traded. But if he were, and it somehow fit the cap (which it doesn't), and the Rangers could somehow pull it off without giving up ANY of Laf, Kakko, Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Fox, Trouba, Lindgren, or the three kids on D from Hartford (going off of the OP proposal)? The Rangers would be stupid not to do such a trade. But again--it wouldn't work with the salary cap, and McDavid would never get traded in the first place.
As usual, the voice of reason.
In a hard cap reality world, no way McD can come to NYR period

If Leo Drai gives a reasonable extension before, something around
Shesty +
for
Drai +
is theoretically doable.

Would be HUGE gamble that Garand matures quickly enuf, but depending on the +s, possibly worth it.

Again McD who will command max $ is not a $$$ fit = non starter

This thread is overdue to die a natural death
 

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