Dreger: McDavid may cost 14 million

[CupsOverCash]

These things never happen. McDavid wants to win he won't handicap his team by signing a contract worth 14 a year.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Cap Percentage is NOT a flawed argument. It is literally the ONLY argument in this case. McDavid is the best player in the league. MVP. He should be paid the highest percentage allowed under the CBA and the other players in the league should be measured below that mark.

Disagree. There are other factors at play and you know it. If cap percentage was the ONLY argument, as you claim, then that would be used to determine every single contract out there. It is argued, but is one of many, many factors.

The previously mentioned cap growth of earlier contracts allowed for teams to give out a higher percentage, as that percentage would drop quickly (within a few years) after signing the deal. If the cap remains stagnant, and it very well could, then it simply doesn't work.

He is also an RFA, not a UFA, and we all know that UFA's get the higher paydays, it has always been the case. The gap is a lot closer than it used to be, but it is absolutely still a factor. That doesn't mean that Connor won't get paid, but it does mean that the Oilers don't have to bend over and give him whatever he wants without negotiating.No team can afford to just roll over on a negotiation with an RFA without negotiating down. Not even for McDavid.

It's all a part of the negotiating. McDavid's agent will ask for 14 million. Chiarelli will counter with 9. They will meet somewhere in the middle.

I love how Pens fans (assuming you are a Pens fan by your username) were screaming that Sid is the best until this thread when McDavid is suddenly the best.

 

[DomBarr]

I think you'll see him sign a 5 year deal for between 11-12M per.

I think this is where it ends up as well. I think the 14 M comes in if the oilers ask for an 8 yr term.

 

[Homesick]

Leak that McDavid MAY get 14 million but then signs for 11-12m is my guess. He gets the publicity and advertising money because he's a good Canadian kid that brands love to capitalize on and allows the Oilers to add pieces to build a championship team. Draisaitl will come in around 7-8 million is my guess

 

[thegr8one66]

McDavid will do exactly what Crosby did: sign a long term contract at a reasonable cap hit that allows his team to sign good players around him to be competitive. He doesn't strike me as a person who would demand the highest salary possible. He'll make up for it with a ton of endorsements (just like Sid).

 

[Rick74*]

Matthews isn't as good as McDavid. It's hard to judge McDavid's rookie year because he missed half the season, but otherwise we're talking about a player who just had the most impactful sophomore season since Crosby was a sophomore in '07.

If Matthews progresses to where he is as good as McDavid and matches or bests what McDavid has done in his 2nd year, meaning he can reasonably ask for Crosby level money on his post ELC deal (aka 17% of the cap) that will be a GOOD problem for Toronto to have because that will mean Matthews blew away all expectations.

Matthews can't sign for more than ten otherwise their is no chance in hell they retain nylander and marner.

and if they can't retain those other two...they don't win anything. perpetual 2nd round exit.

 

[Lemieuxs]

These things never happen. McDavid wants to win he won't handicap his team by signing a contract worth 14 a year.

I wouldn't be so sure. It may not be 14 but it most likely will not be much less than that. Take a look around at some of the other salaries guys are making with half the talent.

Both Toews and Kane are at 10.5 (if we are talking about cap hit). Kopitar is at 10.

Kane and Toews signed their deals over 3 years ago.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I wouldn't be so sure. It may not be 14 but it most likely will not be much less than that. Take a look around at some of the other salaries guys are making with half the talent.

Both Toews and Kane are at 10.5 (if we are talking about cap hit). Kopitar is at 10.

Kane and Toews signed their deals over 3 years ago.

Those guys won a cup already. Twice before signing their contracts. What's left after that when you won a cup? Get paid. If Macdavid doesn't win a cup before it's time to get paid I could see him trying to spread the wealth in order to get one.

 

[member 157595]

Leak that McDavid MAY get 14 million but then signs for 11-12m is my guess. He gets the publicity and advertising money because he's a good Canadian kid that brands love to capitalize on and allows the Oilers to add pieces to build a championship team. Draisaitl will come in around 7-8 million is my guess

I agree with the guy that earlier in this thread said 8 years, 12.5 million/year for 97M for McDavid. I think Edmonton'll like the 8-year term and McDavid will like the AAV and 97M.

 

[td_ice]

Leak that McDavid MAY get 14 million but then signs for 11-12m is my guess. He gets the publicity and advertising money because he's a good Canadian kid that brands love to capitalize on and allows the Oilers to add pieces to build a championship team. Draisaitl will come in around 7-8 million is my guess

Haha, that's probably correct.

Get fans worried about the worst possible scenario and then when it doesn't happen, all is good, because it never came to fruition.

Relief wins the day.

 

[Lemieuxs]

Disagree. There are other factors at play and you know it. If cap percentage was the ONLY argument, as you claim, then that would be used to determine every single contract out there. It is argued, but is one of many, many factors.

The previously mentioned cap growth of earlier contracts allowed for teams to give out a higher percentage, as that percentage would drop quickly (within a few years) after signing the deal. If the cap remains stagnant, and it very well could, then it simply doesn't work.

He is also an RFA, not a UFA, and we all know that UFA's get the higher paydays, it has always been the case. The gap is a lot closer than it used to be, but it is absolutely still a factor. That doesn't mean that Connor won't get paid, but it does mean that the Oilers don't have to bend over and give him whatever he wants without negotiating.No team can afford to just roll over on a negotiation with an RFA without negotiating down. Not even for McDavid.

It's all a part of the negotiating. McDavid's agent will ask for 14 million. Chiarelli will counter with 9. They will meet somewhere in the middle.

I love how Pens fans (assuming you are a Pens fan by your username) were screaming that Sid is the best until this thread when McDavid is suddenly the best.

The point of the cap max increasing higher in the past is a valid point. I still remember though when Sid took 8.7 instead of the 10 or so he could have taken and everyone was upset that he was dragging down all player salaries with that decision. It will be interesting to see how McDavid handles the same situation.

As for Sid, I am absolutely under the belief that Sid is still the best in the world. However, I also realize that my opinion is in the minority. McDavid won the MVP and he is without question the NEXT best one.

 

[TheWolf*]

I wouldn't be so sure. It may not be 14 but it most likely will not be much less than that. Take a look around at some of the other salaries guys are making with half the talent.

Both Toews and Kane are at 10.5 (if we are talking about cap hit). Kopitar is at 10.

Kane and Toews signed their deals over 3 years ago.

To be fair Kane and Toews are high end playoff performers with championships. Kopitar has been the same. McDavid, let's be honest, was a total flop in the playoffs, though he is young and will improve. The other thing to be clear of here is that McDAvid likes his $$$. He is on record as saying that a huge motivating factor for him last year was to achieve his bonuses - and even remarked that he was happy the big German did too. Crosby or Toews would NEVER say something like this, let alone even think it.

 

[lush]

Every once in awhile someone needs to remind the masses that the single player cap is 20% of the total cap, and as the total cap goes up the single player cap can kind of get forgotten unless there's actually a generational player that threatens to ask for it.

As a Canuck fan I would sure enjoy seeing McDavid make the same amount as both Sedin's in their prime (I know it's comparing apples to oranges but still) -we need something to feel better about ourselves

 

[sxvnert]

11mx8 seems more likely.

 

[TheWolf*]

11mx8 seems more likely.

I think a 4 year extension at 14.97M per. Pays him well to get him to UFA status where he can go off and win a cup with TO.

 

[The Macho King]

At the end of the day it's immaterial. McDavid is going to write his contract, and Edmonton will have to sign off on it. If he takes 4 or 14, whatever the number is will entirely be up to him.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I think a 4 year extension at 14.97M per. Pays him well to get him to UFA status where he can go off and win a cup with TO.

Keep dreaming.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I think a 4 year extension at 14.97M per. Pays him well to get him to UFA status where he can go off and win a cup with TO.

where's Matthews going?

how will they fit him into the cap with Tavares and Stamkos there?

 

[bucks_oil]

I agree with the guy that earlier in this thread said 8 years, 12.5 million/year for 97M for McDavid. I think Edmonton'll like the 8-year term and McDavid will like the AAV and 97M.

12.13 actually and it would make for a great headline... McD's camp goes for it when they are stuck at 13 x 8 and Edm is stuck at 11 x 8. They meet in the ~middle and both chuckle at the total value of the deal.

Cooler heads prevail.

 

[TheWolf*]

where's Matthews going?

how will they fit him into the cap with Tavares and Stamkos there?

Well, I think at that point, they collectively get together and each play for $5M per - and make NHL history.

 

[Laineux]

To be fair Kane and Toews are high end playoff performers with championships. Kopitar has been the same. McDavid, let's be honest, was a total flop in the playoffs, though he is young and will improve. The other thing to be clear of here is that McDAvid likes his $$$. He is on record as saying that a huge motivating factor for him last year was to achieve his bonuses - and even remarked that he was happy the big German did too. Crosby or Toews would NEVER say something like this, let alone even think it.

You got a source on this? Because I think you're just making it up.

 

[member 157595]

12.13 actually and it would make for a great headline... McD's camp goes for it when they are stuck at 13 x 8 and Edm is stuck at 11 x 8. They meet in the ~middle and both chuckle at the total value of the deal.

Cooler heads prevail.

Whoops, that's right, 12.125 or something like that (didn't check the #s) beforehand.

Again, if I'm the Oilers all I'd care about is that I have the new face of the league locked down for 8 years.

 

[Price is Wright]

Make your money kid.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Whoops, that's right, 12.125 or something like that (didn't check the #s) beforehand.

Again, if I'm the Oilers all I'd care about is that I have the new face of the league locked down for 8 years.

You have to care about more than that if you want to be competitive. The business guys will agree with you. The hockey operations guys won't.

 

[phxblue]

yes its very unlikely but seems weird that dreger would throw out that high of a number without knowing something

If Toews get's $10.5M a year, McDavid should get $25M a year.

Then again, David Carr is now the NFL's highest paid player. Im also pretty sure Sam Bradford has made more than Tom Brady since he signed his rookie contract.