gamer1035
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Connors new deal, much like Crosby's deal a decade ago will set the bar. Sid got $8.7 million which was the highest cap number for a single digit term. Ovy opted to go long term and got $9.5 over 13 years.
Sid's deal was back when the cap was about $10 million less, around $64 million.
Currently the highest cap hits are Kane and toews at $10.4 then kopitar at $10.
Depending on whether you want to recalculate the guys like Sid, weber, parise, etc, who signed back diving deals and calculate how much their cap hits should be should they retire with term left on their deals, I believe Sid would be at $10.6, weber at $10.4, parise and Suter at $9.4.
This just serves are comparison against the entire league.
So, depends on what mcdavid wants to ask for. His call, his life.
Stifler
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You Oilers fans all live in fantasy world.
McDavid will leave the Oilers just like Gretzky and Messier did.
He will get an offer sheet that the Greasers won't be able to match. Watch the Rangers or Leafs make him a ridiculous offer sheet in 2 summers. Big city / Big market. Deny it all you want but you know it's going to happen.
McDavid will leave the Oilers just like Gretzky and Messier did.
He will get an offer sheet that the Greasers won't be able to match. Watch the Rangers or Leafs make him a ridiculous offer sheet in 2 summers. Big city / Big market. Deny it all you want but you know it's going to happen.
I don't disagree and wouldn't hold it against him to ask for over 10, he just strikes me as a guy that values winning over anything, so wouldn't totally shock me to see him take a cap friendlier deal.
I'm pretty sure they'll lock him up this offseason long term. Very doubtful it gets to offersheet territory. Edmonton would match anything if it came to that anyway lol.
spacemanatee
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29 teams would offer sheet McDavid and offer the max contract so Oilers should just avoid the suspense and give him max. Easiest contract offer ever.
The only way I see him getting less is if he takes a sweetheart deal for the team which he may.
The only way I see him getting less is if he takes a sweetheart deal for the team which he may.
SmellOfVictory
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I hope not. It would be an affront to the hockey gods to have that much luck fall into the Oilers' lap.
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Realistically, if you're the Oilers don't you pay whatever it takes to get him locked up 8 years? That might mean paying 12M+, but wouldn't you rather have him locked down without having to worry about competing to re-sign him in 4-5 years when he becomes a UFA again? 12.125x8 years, get it done. High enough that he sets a new standard, but not so high that the Oilers shouldn't be able to compete with McDavid. At that point, McDavid is probably leaving money on the table long term but it seems like a realistic enough discount to me.
People saying he'll sign for the equivalent of 6M per under today's cap (Hall/RNH/Eberle money) are insane. Absolutely bonkers. That's like me posting that because Karlsson wants to win, he'll sign for 6.5M the next time his contract is up because he is apparently a great leader who really wants to win. If I posted that, would you not look to me like I am a delusional homer?
Players rarely leave a lot of money on the table which is why it was such a shock when Stamkos signed for 8.5M in Tampa, but even then that signing was probably partially covered by the favourable taxes in Florida.
People saying he'll sign for the equivalent of 6M per under today's cap (Hall/RNH/Eberle money) are insane. Absolutely bonkers. That's like me posting that because Karlsson wants to win, he'll sign for 6.5M the next time his contract is up because he is apparently a great leader who really wants to win. If I posted that, would you not look to me like I am a delusional homer?
Players rarely leave a lot of money on the table which is why it was such a shock when Stamkos signed for 8.5M in Tampa, but even then that signing was probably partially covered by the favourable taxes in Florida.
gqmixmaster
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If they don't extend him before he goes RFA pretty much every team eligible should have no problem offering over 10M because 4-1st rounders is actually not an overpayment for him. Oilers will lock him up between 10 and 11M/year IMO
Hopefully its sub 10!
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VainGretzky
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Gretzky was sold. I have no love for the Oilers, but if you're gonna troll at least have your facts straight.
Also, Toronto won't have the cap space to make a real offer, neither will the Rangers. Every team would be ready to make an offer to him, only a few could actually handle the type of deal it would take to make him sign. I'd expect 5 years x $14 million+ per if it came to offer sheets. If he wanted max times 8, Edmonton would just sign him to that deal. The only way he makes it to an offer sheet is if he wants a deal that gets him to UFA as soon as possible. Even if he signs an offer sheet Edmonton matches, and they hope they can build a winner around him before he hits UFA hoping he will stay. The ball is 100% in Edmonton's court for the next 6-7 years. McDavid can come out and publicly request that Edmonton not match an offer sheet, and they would still match. He could take a steaming number 2 in the hotdogs on jumbo tron at the new arena and they'd still match any offer sheet he signs, even if they have no intention of keeping him. Because everyone saying he's worth 4 firsts is 100% correct, he's worth more, and if Edmonton let's him walk they will do so for the highest possible return.
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McFlyingV
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If McDavid goes anywhere it will be because he was sold as well. Not for straight cash like Gretzky, but to the team who offer sheets him division rival offering the most return. Let Toronto offer sheet him, and if he really wants to leave they will match and trade him to Buffalo/Boston/Ottawa for an ungodly ransom of picks and Karlsson/Eichel level talent. That's the only thing that scares me with offer sheets. Create some bad blood and watch the player be traded to the team you're trying to beat for the next decade.
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Our owner is a billionaire and knows that McDavid is the best player and most valuable asset in the NHL. He generates massive revenues for his team.
McDavid wants to be here and play for the Oilers. It'll be "8 years, fill in the number you want". He'll be locked up before anyone even has an opportunity to offer sheet.
That's why I said if McDavid just wants a max deal it gets done in Edmonton. The only thing I can imagine happening that takes McDavid to offer sheets is if he really wants to hit UFA as soon as possible. I could see Oilers brass being unhappy with a max deal that buys no UFA years, and if it comes to that everyone will just assume McDavid doesn't want to be an Oiler even if it's not the case. The Oilers still match anything offered to him anyways because he'd be worth more than 4 firsts and they could trade him in a couple years if they can't fix things in the meantime.
It seems like people think if he signs an offer sheet it's like signing as a UFA.
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He's the captain and this is his team. He plays in a brand new building, and he's treated like royalty in western Canada. He's the King.
Money won't be an issue, he'll get whatever he wants. We're surrounding him with some good pieces, this Oilers team is entirely different than years past.
He'll sign for max term. I wonder if Eichel will leave years on the table?
McFlyingV
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I really doubt he ever makes it to RFA. They'll want to lock him up long-term and he's made no indication to suggest he would want to go elsewhere. This is his team which finally has competent management and coaching. The organization is on the upswing, and he's constantly surrounded by hall of famers from the 80's Oilers, with Gretzky now a part of the organization as well. The owner can afford anything. He's playing in a brand new incredible rink.
How much he gets paid is up to him based on his play, and whether he wants to take a reasonable amount to put the team in a better position to succeed, or if he simply wants money. Based on every character trait he has shown up until this point, I would guess that he values winning and being in an organization and fanbase that will be loyal to him. He's going to make a massive amount of money in his career either way (through both salary and sponsors). I don't think he has an ego to feed where he needs to get max money to be the highest paid player in the NHL.
Thats my take on it, but I supposee we'll have to wait and see. If he wins the art ross this year, I'd gladly give the kid 10-11M this summer for 8 years without even thinking about it. If it really came down to it I'd give him whatever he wants.
How much he gets paid is up to him based on his play, and whether he wants to take a reasonable amount to put the team in a better position to succeed, or if he simply wants money. Based on every character trait he has shown up until this point, I would guess that he values winning and being in an organization and fanbase that will be loyal to him. He's going to make a massive amount of money in his career either way (through both salary and sponsors). I don't think he has an ego to feed where he needs to get max money to be the highest paid player in the NHL.
Thats my take on it, but I supposee we'll have to wait and see. If he wins the art ross this year, I'd gladly give the kid 10-11M this summer for 8 years without even thinking about it. If it really came down to it I'd give him whatever he wants.
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Mr Positive
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one thing for sure is that we will be giving McDavid 8 years. We won't shave off years to save on the cap hit. I would hope Chia has this thinking anyway.
Redline
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Really?
He's being called the best player in the NHL, which if arguable now won't be for long. He'll be the highest paid player in the league and thats fair.
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