Matvei Michkov vs. Ivan Demidov; who will be better?

[Canadienna]

habs could have ended with both

The Habs couldve had both.

Montreal made the “ safe “ move instead of getting 2 potentially elite guys ( 1 likely a step above ) .

It really is amazing to think the Habs could have had both....Wow....talk about a quick rebuild.

After picking Slafkovsky with their 1st overall the year prior, I don't think they were ever going to use all three years of their rebuild picks on 3 wingers.

 

[Kshahdoo]

After picking Slafkovsky with their 1st overall the year prior, I don't think they were ever going to use all three years of their rebuild picks on 3 wingers.

Yeah, you'd never pick Kucherov and Kaprizov because they are both wingers. RNH over Kucherov all the time!

 

[Canadienna]

Yeah, you'd never pick Kucherov and Kaprizov because they are both wingers. RNH over Kucherov all the time!

Odd response considering those guys got drafted 58th and 135th.

Whether or not it's the right call, they just were never going to draft 3 wingers with their 1st, 5th and 5th overall picks in back to back to back years.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

After picking Slafkovsky with their 1st overall the year prior, I don't think they were ever going to use all three years of their rebuild picks on 3 wingers.

Picking for a need is usually reserved for the end of the rebuild . BPA is typically the best practice . If Mishkov hits and Rein underwhelms there would justifiably finger pointing ( we’re nowhere near that yet ) . Guess we wait and see

 

[Kshahdoo]

Odd response considering those guys got drafted 58th and 135th.

Whether or not it's the right call, they just were never going to draft 3 wingers with their 1st, 5th and 5th overall picks in back to back to back years.

Yeah, but we're talking about Michkov and Demidov who are projected to be close to NHL superstars Kucherov and Kaprizov...

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Yeah, but we're talking about Michkov and Demidov who are projected to be close to NHL superstars Kucherov and Kaprizov...

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

 

[Kshahdoo]

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

Yeah, but I'm not a Montreal fan, I've been following both kids since they were 14...

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Yeah, but I'm not a Montreal fan, I've been following both kids since they were 14...

If you actually think they’re very equal as far as a “prospect” and in terms of development, dunno man, I can’t type what I actually want to say so just yeah dunno bro lmao. Some people think they can truly fly, whatever makes you feel validated.

 

[Kshahdoo]

If you actually think they’re very equal as far as being a “prospect” and in terms of development, dunno man, I can’t type what I actually want to say so just yeah dunno bro lmao.

I've never said they are equal. I think Michkov is going to be better, but Demidov is going to be a superstar.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

I've never said they are equal. I think Michkov is going to be better, but Demidov is going to be a superstar.

Fair, I agree and disagree, wouldn’t it be more ideal if we saw how Demidov fairs against men in the KHL in a low scoring league before that assumption though? I know I won’t but I’m more than down to eat crow if Demidov does even close to what Michkov did last year with illnesses lmao.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Fair, I agree and disagree, wouldn’t it be more ideal if we saw how Demidov fairs against men in the KHL in a low scoring league before that assumption though?

Well, in the ideal world yes. Still it took Kucherov just a season to progress from MHL to NHL. And Demidov was even more dominating in the MHL than Kucherov.

 

[HabbyGuy]

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

What's incredible is your hubris to suggest that they aren't even in the same stratosphere as prospects. Using terms like "insane" or "cope" to further your idea that it's not even in the realm of possibility.

Pretty sure this guy (a scout) isn't a habs fan who believes both players are equally talented, and might even lean towards Demidov if it was up to him. But I guess he's out to lunch because he disagrees with you. Your flyers bias is just as clear as the one your accusing habs fans of. I'm sure if you polled a majority of scouts who the top prospects are right now, they'd have Celebrini, Michkov and Demidov grouped in the top 3.

There's not as much disparity as you'd like to believe. In the end it really doesn't matter, both fanbases are happy with their guy, there's no need for a pissing match.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

What's incredible is your hubris to suggest that they aren't even in the same stratosphere as prospects. Using terms like "insane" or "cope" to further your idea that it's not even in the realm of possibility.

Pretty sure this guy (a scout) isn't a habs fan who believes both players are equally talented, and might even lean towards Demidov if it was up to him. But I guess he's out to lunch because he disagrees with you. Your flyers bias is just as clear as the one your accusing habs fans of. I'm sure if you polled a majority of scouts who the top prospects are right now, they's have Celebrini, Michkov and Demidov grouped in the top 3.

There's not as much disparity as you'd like to believe. In the end it really doesn't matter, both fanbases are happy with their guy, there's no need for a pissing match.

Zero chance I’m reading all that, but as prospects Michkov is superior at every single level of their development that much isn’t even debatable let the years roll on, let’s see. Gonna be a hilarious thread next year I’m sure.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Zero chance I’m reading all that, but as prospects Michkov is superior at every single level of their development that much isn’t even debatable let the years roll on, let’s see. Gonna be a hilarious thread next year I’m sure.

LOL reading all what, 8 lines of text? And what exactly is going to be funny about next year? Shouldn't we just wait and see how this all works out, say 4 or 5 years from now? Or better yet just enjoy two great players and leave it at that. Why so worked up, like who the hell cares?

 

[Amorgus]

Philly will coach Michkov to be a grinder or bench his ass. It's all they know how to do. So they'll make him into a bust unless he somehow demands a trade too.

 

[Zine]

After picking Slafkovsky with their 1st overall the year prior, I don't think they were ever going to use all three years of their rebuild picks on 3 wingers.

If you're in a rebuild why not take best player available?
You'd think a team's objective would be to accumulate assets. You can always trade for need.

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Philly will coach Michkov to be a grinder or bench his ass. It's all they know how to do. So they'll make him into a bust unless he somehow demands a trade too.

Entirely possible.

 

[Zine]

Philly will coach Michkov to be a grinder or bench his ass. It's all they know how to do. So they'll make him into a bust unless he somehow demands a trade too.

From Rotenberg to Torts. Poor Michkov can't catch a break on either side of the Atlantic.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

To be fair you’re literally in a vs thead with the goal of comparing them / debating who is better

 

[dgibb10]

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

Wasn't Michkov a goal per game in the MHL at age 16 lmao

 

[Kshahdoo]

Philly will coach Michkov to be a grinder or bench his ass. It's all they know how to do. So they'll make him into a bust unless he somehow demands a trade too.

You underestimate Michkov. The kid will thrive in any environment, he has that type of mentality that won't let you give up. And people demonize Torts way too much.

 

[NikolaTesla]

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

Didn't Demidov do better in last year's KHL preseasons in the same games that Michkov played?

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Didn't Demidov do better in last year's KHL preseasons in the same games that Michkov played?

Preseason ? Really ? Who cares about pre season . Many regulars go half assed. Straw > grasp ?

 

[NikolaTesla]

Preseason ? Really ? Who cares about pre season . Many regulars go half assed. Straw > grasp ?

But young guys give it all, and Demidov did better than Mitchkov.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It’s actually incredible how hard Montreal fans try to group Demidov in with Michkov as a prospect, so much so that you have Habs fans coming to the Flyers board to tell us how good Demidov is, actually insane lol. They aren’t the same and you’ll see that in the upcoming years, there’s a reason Demidov went 5th the absolutely only reason Michkov didn’t go 2 is the 3 year wait deal. They are not equal as prospects, Michkovs done it against men in the KHL, meanwhile Demidov is doing well in the MHL where if Michkov was there he’d put up ungodly numbers, the cope is unreal from that fanbase. And you wonder why most fans root against you.

Saying “there’s a reason Demidov went 5th” while Michkov went 7th makes no sense no matter how you try to spin it lmfao