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Matvei Michkov vs. Ivan Demidov; who will be better?

Who will be better?

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Sasso09 said:
Not really lol.....

Michkov went 7th in a super deep draft BECAUSE of his 3 year contract and refusal to speak to other teams

Demidov went 5th in a weak draft without a contract. A draft in which the 1st overall player (Celebrini) would go 4th or 5th next to Leo Carlsson in the 23'

Demidov doesn't go top 10 in 23'
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This is pure cope about not drafting him but ok
 
Sasso09 said:
This is a lie and a simple Google search would show you that. Michkov was 1st on many boards and was 1st on all boards D-2
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Which board was Michkov 1st on?

Connor Bedard was No. 1 on TSN’s Pre-Season Rankings for the 2023 NHL Draft and ten out of 10 scouts surveyed by TSN had him 1st.
 
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Michkov. I don't buy in on prospect hype very often. But this guy has sold me. He's the real deal.
 
ReHabs said:
Incidentally — I’ve written about this before — I’ve actually spoken to someone very close to the matter and high up at SKA and they specifically cited Michkov’s speed and size as issues. I asked if the Habs made a mistake not picking Michkov and the person said he feels probably not because Michkov has to improve a lot in that domain.

Give it a rest.
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Michkov and Demidov are of same speed, while Michkov is a much better technical skater

Michkov just measured this week at 5'10.5" 190
Demidov two weeks ago at 6'0.25" 187

If there's a size and skating issue for one there's a size and skating issue for both

ReHabs said:
I think Michkov is a brilliant prospect and player but your argument doesn't hold up at all. SKA might actually not rate Michkov as highly as others do -- it's not an objective process and it could very well be that SKA sees less in him than you or I. Habs GM Marc Bergevin didn't rate PK Subban either when most of the league saw him as a topX dman.
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Lol now that you're seeing how Demidov is being used how do you feel?

Bit of egg on your face?
 
Sasso09 said:
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Michkov and Demidov are of same speed, while Michkov is a much better technical skater

Michkov just measured this week at 5'10.5" 190
Demidov two weeks ago at 6'0.25" 187

If there's a size and skating issue for one there's a size and skating issue for both


Lol now that you're seeing how Demidov is being used how do you feel?

Bit of egg on your face?
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Is he really that heavy ? Thought he was around 180 which at 5 10 is fairly stout already . Neither are fast skaters per say but both move laterally very well imo/ are shifty
 
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Anaheim4ever said:
Demidov's 6'1 size suggests he'll have an easier time of his game translating to the NHL.
I also believe Demidov's compete level and motor is much higher than Michkov. Michkov is more talented but he's only 5'9 and I don't see his game translating as well as Demidovs.
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Demidov is 6'0.25" 187
Michkov is 5'10.5" 190

Stop making stuff up

TheKrebsCycle said:
Is he really that heavy ? Thought he was around 180 which at 5 10 is fairly stout already . Neither are fast skaters per say but both move laterally very well imo/ are shift
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Yes, he weighed in at 190 today
 

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Probably good to close the poll given very lopsided result in addition to the volatility that the thread could provide . Already 2 rife w the comparison ( I’m not innocent here but maybe 3 threads is 1 too many ?)
 
If one of them is a Kucherov and one of them a Panarin....will any of us give a shit who is better?

This ongoing debate is stupid. Wait a while people.
 
Who will contribute more for their team? Who will be an overall bigger impact for winning games?

So far from my eyes, Michkov looks like the better "talent" of the two and Demidov looks more well rounded. They are both extremely competitive. Both extremely smart. And very skilled. I don't see any way these two don't hit their ceiling whatever that may be. I say 90-100+ points for both. With potential for even more. They both seem to have that "it" factor. Aka they're dogs.

I'm a biased homer but I'll take Demidov by a hair for now. I need to see both of them play more this season. Michkov will be in NHL and the KHL is streaming their games for free I hear so no excuses not to watch Demidov either.
 
TheKrebsCycle said:
Probably good to close the poll given very lopsided result in addition to the volatility that the thread could provide . Already 2 rife w the comparison ( I’m not innocent here but maybe 3 threads is 1 too many ?)
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Id much rather have this conversation here than in the Michkov/Demidov threads lmao. This topic deserves its own thread
 
Zine said:
There’s the Junior Club World Cup too. Competing were junior teams from numerous countries.

CHL sent a representative 3 times.
Sudbury won Gold in 2013-14, and placed 6th the following year. Cape Breton finished 8th in 2015-16.
USHL sent a team 4 times. Never finished higher than 3rd.
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And you can add U17 World Challenge which Russia won the last 2 times when it participated at...
 
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