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Confirmed with Link: Mattias Samuelsson Signs 7 year extension ($4.29M AAV)

There are a couple trickle down effects from this contract to.

1. I believe they’re going to make Dahlin the highest paid player on the team next offseason on a full 8 year extension. When they sit down with him he’ll already know his partner is locked up for the long haul.

2. Despite his age, this organization has more important pieces that are younger than Samuelsson coming than already ahead of him. Quinn and Peterka see this as they start their NHL journey and know they will be taken care of if they perform. All the guys heading to Rochester see how quickly you can be set if you develop and do it like they’re asking you to. All the guys who went back to their leagues see it and what can happen if you take the path the Sabres are cultivating through their system.

3. Power and Dahlin will both be getting contracts actually, likely next year. Samuelsson being one of their clear top 3 gives them one less variable as they pay those guys a lot for a long time. They’re going to know what their D cornerstones are making for the next long while at this time next year.
 
I expected a new deal to be in the 4-4.5 AAV range, but for around 4-5 years. A seven year deal at the same AAV for a player with maybe the most predictable development path on the team is a solid investment. He's going to be a really cheap player for what he brings as early as next season, let alone the next six years after that.

edit - I see why a new deal for Cozens should wait, but I won't be unhappy with a long term deal for Asplund next. Something around 2.5 mil for 5 years.
 
Ace said:
2. Despite his age, this organization has more important pieces that are younger than Samuelsson coming than already ahead of him. Quinn and Peterka see this as they start their NHL journey and know they will be taken care of if they perform. All the guys heading to Rochester see how quickly you can be set if you develop and do it like they’re asking you to. All the guys who went back to their leagues see it and what can happen if you take the path the Sabres are cultivating through their system.
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I kinda don't want to mix forwards and D on this point.

We have 8 years of certainty with our top 3 D. I dont think we need to have a 4th D on a 7 or 8 year contract. You have Joker playing for his next contract, maybe he works out and maybe he doesn't. Whatever happens, the 4th D shouldn't be making more than Samuelsson. You've got 50 minutes of D time to split amongst 4 5 and 6.

For the forwards, you will have the 4 or 5 who will be getting the 7 or 8 year deals, and the others will do their first RFA contract and then its decision time.

The Sabres are certain about their D core. I dont see how any forwards are ahead of Sammy as you say. They *all* have more to show before the next TT contract is handed out to a forward. That goes for Cozens too. Cozens may struggle numbers wise with Krebs and Peterka, if that line even stays together.
 
So, this is a little nuts. I definitely read this headline seven times.

I mean, they did it for a guy we're all very high on, but I don't know that I've ever seen a seven year deal offered to a player with less than one NHL season.

I don't know what the odds are that he becomes a steal, or that he becomes dead weight. I just don't.
 
Chainshot said:
Is it all Samuelsson brings - we're talking about a guy who has outpaced some dude named Brian Campbell in AHL scoring rates and yet still gets referenced as "just" a meathead. Is a good partner unlocking Dahlin's offensive game not worth 2nd pairing money? It seems the team thinks so.
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If anything, I'd like another for the same price.
 
I like it. Finally being a proactive, forward-thinking organization. Seems they understand why they lost Sam and how much money they're going to cost themselves by waiting on Dahlin's big contract.

There's always risk in giving these early extensions, but there's also a bigger reward. They trust their evaluators and the coaches they have in the fold. I'd love to see them go full Atlanta Braves and lock in as many of the long-term guys as they can sooner than later.
 
S tier deal. Will be among the league best in 2-3 years.

stokes84 said:
Correct. It’s certifiably insane and has no realistic justification. That’s my opinion.
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We've been down this road when you begged for Nylander over Chychrun in 2016.

You devalue defensemen.
 
TehDoak said:
Zaitsev was amazing...until he wasn't. And Toronto had to pay to get out of that deal.

And I'm a huge Samuelsson fan. But this is just an unforced error by the front office. The payoff is minor and the risk of being saddled with a bad long term deal still looms large.

After the the Skinner and Leino contract fiasco's, you would think ownership would learn that it takes more than one season to give out a massive contract.

If your comp is Brodin here....after 2.5 seasons of excellence he got a 6 year, 25M deal in 2015. At a 71.3M cap.

At an 82.5 M cap, the comp is 4.75M a year. So 6 years, 28.5.

So, the "reward" here is you saved under 500k a year.

The risk is you end up with a Zaitsev like contract you have to pay to move.

Very little reward, a lot of risk.

It's just non sensical. There's no Arbitration to worry about, no reasonable fear of offersheet. Just tossing out 7 years deals because....why not?
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We want players that want to be here. When that happens and if they're good, lock them up.

I don't see any Cody Hodgson or Zaitsev comp here. Oh by the way, his bloodlines should count for something as well.
 
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haseoke39 said:
So, this is a little nuts. I definitely read this headline seven times.

I mean, they did it for a guy we're all very high on, but I don't know that I've ever seen a seven year deal offered to a player with less than one NHL season.

I don't know what the odds are that he becomes a steal, or that he becomes dead weight. I just don't.
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You don't always have to have an opinion on every little move as a fan. You either trust the GM or you don't.
 
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