Matthews,Marner,Woll vs Stutzle,Tkachuk,Ullmark

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Who has the better trio Toronto or Ottawa?

  • Matthews,Marner,Woll

    Votes: 99 79.2%
  • Stutzle,Tkachuk,Ullmark

    Votes: 26 20.8%

  • Total voters
    125

K1900L

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Dec 27, 2019
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Matthews > Stützle
Marner < Tkachuk
Woll < Ullmark

1. Matthews
2. Stützle
3. Tkachuk
4. Marner
5. Ullmark
6. Woll

But I could easily see why someone would rank Marner above of Tkachuk, which would change the outcome in Toronto's favor.
 
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SensontheRush

Never said it was Sunshine
Apr 27, 2010
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So healthy Stu is worse than healthy Matthews and Injured Stu is worse than injured Matthews.

Healthy Stu is maybe marginally better offensively than injured Matthews but he also still finished in the top 15 in Selke voting during his down season (Stutzle 0 votes, his teammate had Giroux one 5th place vote).
I think we can take votes from the non-objective Hockey Mecca media body with a grain of salt here.

And like the other poster said... Stu is five years younger!
 

Namikaze Minato

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Apr 30, 2009
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I think we can take votes from the non-objective Hockey Mecca media body with a grain of salt here.

And like the other poster said... Stu is five years younger!
Ah yes, the Toronto Hockey media that has forced Leafs players to win all the major trophies with their bias.

Who was the last Selke winner for Toronto again?
Stutzle was 20 and 21 years old in the seasons you are talking about.
And he is 22 now. This thread is "Matthews Marner and Woll vs Stu, Tkachuk and Ullmark who is the better trio" not "Will prime Stutzle be as good as Matthews?" or "How do Stutzle's 20 and 21 year old seasons compare to Matthews'?"

The threadline I was replying to was about how Stutzle's best season to date lined up with Matthews injured season and "what if that happens again?"
Nothing happens, Matthews was still better than Stutzle in that season as an overall player and again helped his team make the playoffs, which he has never missed.
Healthy Stu finished ahead of injured Matthews while he was still on his ELC.
Yes, what do you believe this is adding that wasn't already known?
 

Xspyrit

DJ Dorion
Jun 29, 2008
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And he is 22 now. This thread is "Matthews Marner and Woll vs Stu, Tkachuk and Ullmark who is the better trio" not "Will prime Stutzle be as good as Matthews?" or "How do Stutzle's 20 and 21 year old seasons compare to Matthews'?"

You said "Healthy Stu is maybe marginally better offensively than injured Matthews"

You are making a statement as if age wouldn't matter, hence why I specified it to you. Unless you think players peak at 20-21?

It seems that Matthews entered his prime around 23-24 y/o so we don't have the empirical evidence necessary to properly compare yet...

The threadline I was replying to was about how Stutzle's best season to date lined up with Matthews injured season and "what if that happens again?" Nothing happens, Matthews was still better than Stutzle in that season as an overall player and again helped his team make the playoffs, which he has never missed.

Which is still impossible to compare as Stutzle most likely hasn't entered his prime yet. Unless Stutzle doesn't have this privilege like many players had? (Matthews, Nylander, MacKinnon to name a few)

Nothing happens, Matthews was still better than Stutzle in that season as an overall player and again helped his team make the playoffs, which he has never missed.

Toronto did not make the playoffs in 2020
 
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