i don't have a horse in this race and i don't give a crap really but there seems like there's more and more trade offers all the time with rfa's due their qualifying offers . boesar in vancouver, thachuk in calgary, laine in columbus etc . if the team with these players are getting uncomfortable why would another team give up prized assets to take the unknown headache on ?
Proposal: Matthew Tkachuk for Elias Pettersson
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If you're trading for Pettersson, it's to increase your chances of winning the Cup, so I would think Calgary's preference would be to keep Tkachuk...
If the Canucks are willing to take a step back this season for the purpose of taking 2 steps forward in the coming seasons, I could see something like this being beneficial to both teams...
To Calgary: Pettersson, Boeser (1.5 million retained)
To Vancouver: 2022 1st, Coronato, Zary, Pelletier, Monahan, Lucic
Calgary get a significant upgrade to their middle 6, while also dumping the contracts of Monahan and Lucic
Vancouver get 3 prospects with upside, plus a 2022 1st
Possible Calgary top 9:
Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Coleman - Pettersson - Mangiapane
Dube - Backlund - Boeser
So long as either Gaudreau doesn't re-sign, or Tkachuk isn't interested in a long term deal and is traded over the summer, Calgary will have the cap space to retain all their key RFA's. If both Gaudreau and Tkachuk are re-signed, the Flames can move Boeser instead of Tkachuk...
If the Canucks are willing to take a step back this season for the purpose of taking 2 steps forward in the coming seasons, I could see something like this being beneficial to both teams...
To Calgary: Pettersson, Boeser (1.5 million retained)
To Vancouver: 2022 1st, Coronato, Zary, Pelletier, Monahan, Lucic
Calgary get a significant upgrade to their middle 6, while also dumping the contracts of Monahan and Lucic
Vancouver get 3 prospects with upside, plus a 2022 1st
Possible Calgary top 9:
Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Coleman - Pettersson - Mangiapane
Dube - Backlund - Boeser
So long as either Gaudreau doesn't re-sign, or Tkachuk isn't interested in a long term deal and is traded over the summer, Calgary will have the cap space to retain all their key RFA's. If both Gaudreau and Tkachuk are re-signed, the Flames can move Boeser instead of Tkachuk...
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Soooooooooooo, trading in division, we give up two of our best players, we take on cap dumps, we take two bad contracts, plus we retain, and we don't address our biggest need (blueline).....
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That's a cute GIF!
Like I said though, it's a deal that is a step back now for Vancouver in order to take 2 steps forward in the coming seasons...
The retention on Boeser is just for the rest of this season, so it's pretty inconsequential
As for addressing the team's biggest need, if Vancouver were to make a deal like this, it likely means Miller is moved as well, so the Canucks can target D in that trade...
To New York: Miller (50% retained)
To Vancouver: 2022 1st, Kravtsov, Schneider
Rangers get a top 6 C for about 2.7 million
Vancouver get another 2022 1st, an offensive prospect in Kravtsov, and an RD prospect
Vancouver out: Pettersson, Boeser (1.5 million retained), Miller (50% retained)
Vancouver in: CGY's 2022 1st, NYR's 2022 1st, Coronato, Zary, Pelletier, Kravtsov, Schneider, Monahan, Lucic
Possible Canucks lineup in 2023:
Kravtsov - Horvat - Garland
Hoglander - Zary - Podkolzin
Pelletier - Monahan - Coronato
Hughes - Myers
OEL - Schneider
Rathbone - Poolman
And they've got 3 1sts in the upcoming draft...
Lucic and Monahan only have 2 years left, so the Canucks will have ample cap space in the summer of 2024 to go after a big fish in free-agency just as their young players are coming into their prime
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I still wouldn't do the Flames deal, not giving up two first liners to a division rival without an overpay, just my opinion, I'd absolutely do the Rangers one, though I doubt their fans would like that one.
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Pettersson and Boeser have combined for 7 goals, 18 points in 35 games this season...
They're not producing like 1st liners...
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What a dumb thing to say 18 games in. I guess the previous 150+games don't matter and EatsBread will win the rocket this year. Let's talk when the flames will cool off.
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It's dumb to point out their production this season?
Well, okay then... clearly you're the authority on the matter
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This thread reeks of creepy dudes dming random girls only to call them ugly when they get rejected 
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)I'm just saying it's a little premature and silly. You sound like our canuck fans who said Petey was McJesus level in the first 40 games of his career. Remeber when he used to light you guys up?Remember his first game vs the Flames?
At least wait half a season. Keep in mid that we have Travis Green as coach and Dim Jim as GM.
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What's dumb is focusing on 18 games and using that as a barometer, while completely ignoring history and precedence.
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Very little logic for either team here, Calgary is rolling and their top line is extremely dominant. Whereas Vancouver is spinning tires but centers have more value in general. If Tkachuk wasnt available for Ei hel he wont be for EP40. Both teams decline
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Well since you asked...
- Gold medal U-17 Hockey Challenge
- Gold medal U-18 IIHF World Hockey Championship
- Bronze medal U-20 IIHF World Hockey Championship (scored 11 points to share the lead with Auston Mathews in American team scoring)
- Memorial Cup winner
- Hasn't won any awards or trophies in the NHL yet but neither has Elias Pettersson.
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You dont get your way so your first response is to take a shot at the person that said something you didnt like.
Get over yourself.
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He missed 30 games (more than the last half of the season) because of a wrist injury on March 1 2021... He hasn't been fine for a long time. For all anyone knows, he still has wrist problems. Or it could be mental problems. Whatever it is.... its painfully obvious to everyone that something is wrong with him.
