Player Discussion Matthew Poitras

[Bruinswillwin77]

Yeah I get that argument. I think perhaps a young player shouldn't be rested just for the sake of it, but your threshold for an injury that will keep them off the ice will be lower. Something that a vet would just play through, you might take a more precautionary approach with a rookie. So you basic intent is that they're playing whenever available, but you manage fitness and recover that little bit differently to give that extra level of protection.

Lacking that old man strength

 

[badbrewin]

I think you are right friend, our old friend Dom was all over Poitras long before camp began, me thinks Don and Cam and many others shocked at how comfortable he has looked

They lost a Cadillac and.a Buick in 37 and 46 and figured they'd bridge the C gap with 4 Kia's in Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard...$4M+ of cap space they could have used to get a legit #3 center. Glad to see Poitras and Beecher have created such a pleasantly awkward situation.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

They lost a Cadillac and.a Buick in 37 and 46 and figured they'd bridge the C gap with 4 Kia's in Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard...$4M+ of cap space they could have used to get a legit #3 center. Glad to see Poitras and Beecher have created such a pleasantly awkward situation.

Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard don’t cost you $4M in cap space

 

[badbrewin]

Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard don’t cost you $4M in cap space

I stand corrected...$3.6M of questionable salary

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

They lost a Cadillac and.a Buick in 37 and 46 and figured they'd bridge the C gap with 4 Kia's in Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard...$4M+ of cap space they could have used to get a legit #3 center. Glad to see Poitras and Beecher have created such a pleasantly awkward situation.

Huh?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I stand corrected...$3.6M of questionable salary

No. Richard is down and doesn’t cost you anything. Boqvist is league minimum - if you didn’t sign him someone else is making at least that much. And he may get cut anyway. Brown makes more but he may be down (god willing) and he doesn’t cost more than $225k than a replacement player. Geekie is the only one and he costs $1.225M over a replacement. So basically those four cost you under $1.5M, and that’s if Brown is on the team.

 

[KnightofBoston]

But is that good enough , no Hart trophy, no Conn Smythe...............

Well hey, that’s the thing about the quantum realm, you can just keep going through it picking up trophies like infinity stones. They all become paper weights anyways, unless you’re Phil Esposito

 

[The don godfather]

Poitras 2nd pound pick gem picked by donny maestro! Let's go!

 

[Kegs]

and didn`t display any interest in playing in his own end

He was weak on the boards too. He had the tools to create offence. He is doing really well in the khl though.

I stand corrected...$3.6M of questionable salary

these are literally the very definition of no risk signings… we get it. You hate Sweeney. Don’t worry brown is getting waived too. Poitras will make the team imo.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I'd give him 9 too, to give him a taste. But that's it for me. Kid needs another year of growing to last a full NHL season and the last thing I want to see is him miss time to a concussion at age 19..

The B's know what they've got in this kid, and they'll take care of him as best they can. Some fans won't like it, but I think its best for him long term...

There are a lot of things being undersized could cause, I am just not sure he is all that more likely to get concussed in the NHL vs the OHL, there things happen all the time, and sadly are usually a result of a cheap shot.

 

[Gee Wally]

Rink Rap: Pencil in Poitras

I remember when I thought Sami Pahlsson looked like the second coming of Peter Forsberg. A 1996 Colorado draft pick (176th overall) who came to Boston in the March 6, 2000, Ray Bourque blockbuster,…

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[Alicat]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

 

[The don godfather]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

I'm hoping be blows the doors and stays for the year which now amazingly seems possible. The more I see him I see a marner clone. Bergy shoes are too big to fill.

 

[Orr Fourever]

Whomever scouted Matty P deserves a cookie...

 

[Gee Wally]

Matthew Poitras’s bid to make the Bruins at 19 rings a bell with Milan Lucic - The Boston Globe

Back in 2007, Lucic impressed enough in preseason to stick with the Bruins instead of going back to juniors — just as Poitras is trying to do.

www.bostonglobe.com

The odds haven’t been in Matthew Poitras’s favor since the fresh-faced center first stepped onto the ice at Warrior Ice Arena Sept. 21.
The 2022 second-round pick’s playmaking poise was evident after a standout 2022-23 campaign in which he dished out 79 assists in 63 games with the OHL’s Guelph Storm.
But after just two seasons of junior hockey, the prospect of the 19-year-old Poitras cracking the Bruins’ roster felt like an improbable scenario just a few weeks ago.
But it’s far from impossible, as Milan Lucic can attest.
Lucic’s bruising style stands in contrast to Poitras’s ability to evade punishment on the boards and orchestrate Grade A chances with slick feeds.


“It reminds me of when I was a 19-year-old and no one’s really saying anything to you,” Lucic said of his training camp experience in 2007. “But you keep getting put in the lineup, and that’s a good thing when you’re at that age, so good on him for his efforts so far.”

The expectation was that Lucic was going to return to the Vancouver Giants and help his WHL squad defend its Memorial Cup title. But with each preseason game, as Lucic belted opponents and wreaked havoc near the crease, his odds of sticking in the NHL improved.

“They just kept playing me,” Lucic said. “So I was like, ‘OK, I guess that must be a good thing.’ So I just keep going out there and showing them what I can do.

“I think the two of us have completely different skill sets. So for me, I just continued to be physical and showed that I could hang with the big boys and all that type of stuff.”

His 5-foot-11-inch, 180-pound frame raises questions about his ability to withstand the punishment of an 82-game gauntlet in the NHL. But his playmaking and willingness to skate into Grade-A ice had Bruins captain Brad Marchand drawing comparisons to Maple Leafs All-Star forward Mitch Marner.

Poitras may not be a point-per-game spark plug like Marner, but he has made a compelling case to stick around.



The Bruins announced their latest roster cuts Wednesday, with Poitras, Johnny Beecher, and Mason Lohrei still sticking with the NHL club entering Thursday’s final preseason game against the Rangers.

It’d be a sizable achievement if Poitras manages to take the ice when the Bruins begin their centennial season Oct. 11.

The onus would fall on Poitras to capitalize on that nine-game trial and prove that he has the means of surviving a full year with Boston.

”He’s got to play to his strengths, and the main thing in this league is doing it on a night-to-night basis,” Lucic said. “Because if you’re doing it one out of five nights, then that’s not good enough.”

Poitras may not have to drop the gloves to validate his spot, but if he is to follow in Lucic’s footsteps and jump from juniors to the Bruins, he’ll need to make the most of whatever additional time is afforded him.

”I think I’ve played pretty well and I’ve done everything I can,” Poitras said. “So, just think I made it pretty difficult on them.”

 

[RoccoF14]

There are a lot of things being undersized could cause, I am just not sure he is all that more likely to get concussed in the NHL vs the OHL, there things happen all the time, and sadly are usually a result of a cheap shot.

When you are a 19 year old, 175lb kid playing against grown men, with an average of 30lbs weight advantage, the laws of physics are working against you over an 82 game season. That’s all I’m trying to say here. They skate faster, are bigger and their shots are harder. That’s why they’re in the NHL, and that’s why there’s risk in playing Poitras Now vs giving another year to grow.

Im sure the Bruins know that, and at the end of the day it’s gonna come down to a simple risk reward decision. If the benefit of having him on the club roster now, outweighs the risk of having his development potentially delayed because they rushed him, then by all means do it. But know the risk and don’t just say “ah, it’ll be fine, shit happens.”

Doing it because the fans want it, and are desperate for the second coming of Patrice Bergeron, isn’t a good enough reason in my book.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Give him every other game or some schedule to keep him around, practicing with the team but playing and watching the daily grind....

Or trust in his capability to acclimate on the fly. He seem quite bright and sturdy for a pup.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

I’m of a different mindset, Ali.

In order to keep Poitras in Boston for nine games, you’re going to have to risk exposing another player to the waiver wire. It’s only worth the risk if you feel he has a real shot of contributing past that point.

If you feel juniors is inevitable, send him there during final cuts.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

Doing it because the fans want it, and are desperate for the second coming of Patrice Bergeron, isn’t a good enough reason in my book.

He wouldn't be the second coming of Bergeron, more like Oates or Pederson. Bergeron wasn't Bergeron for a few years(even removing the awful career threatening concussion)

 

[RoccoF14]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

Bergeron also came within a whisker of having his career ended prematurely as well.

He wouldn't be the second coming of Bergeron, more like Oates or Pederson. Bergeron wasn't Bergeron for a few year(even removing the awful career threatening concussion)

Well I’m glad we are setting the bar lower……to Oates and Pederson.

 

[mjhfb]

Not sure how someone can justify whether he stays or not being size related. There are several stars in the league shorter and lighter, let alone "regular" NHL players.
He should be judged if he consistently performs at a level that demonstrates he belongs. Period.
We shall see more tonight.

 

[Kegs]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

Looks pretty strong to me. I think there are plenty of smaller weaker players in the nhl.

 

[ODAAT]

Whomever scouted Matty P deserves a cookie...

total guess here but Jeff Barratt or Bob Wetick based on the B`s site? Dom, paging Dom

 

[Over the volcano]

He'll get the 9 games because he's earned it but I expect him to be sent back to juniors. He needs to get stronger and get bigger. He's a twig. Give him the time to play and also build that strength and then we see him at the end of the year.

I see a lot of Bergeron comparisons and it isn't a fair one. Bergy was bigger and stronger at 18-19 which, along with his skill, allowed him to make the team.

He's got the talent and vision he just needs to have his strength catch up.

Poitras is listed as 5'11" 180.

Bergeron was 6' 180 when he broke into the league

For a great throwback read - here's Kirk killing it per usual.
Throwback Thursday: Patrice Bergeron interview from 2003 NHL Draft

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

They lost a Cadillac and.a Buick in 37 and 46 and figured they'd bridge the C gap with 4 Kia's in Boqvist, Brown, Geekie, Richard...$4M+ of cap space they could have used to get a legit #3 center. Glad to see Poitras and Beecher have created such a pleasantly awkward situation.

Yeah from what I've seen (2 games) Poitras & Beecher have been the most noticeable between everyone competing for spots.

Thought Beecher's looked excellent, good use of his speed, making some nice small plays