Matthew Knies

[conFABulator]

I know I’ll get laughed at for this but he reminds of Matthews. I’m only talking about the way he moves.

I’m not saying he’s a Hart winning 60 goal scorer lol

I think it makes too much sense to play Knies with Matthews (and Bertuzzi). Let Marner carry the second line with Tavares (and Robertson). Domi and Nylander (with Lafferty or Holmberg) on the third line.

I think Knies and Matthews could work really, really well together.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I think it makes too much sense to play Knies with Matthews (and Bertuzzi). Let Marner carry the second line with Tavares (and Robertson). Domi and Nylander (with Lafferty or Holmberg) on the third line.

I think Knies and Matthews could work really, really well together.

I would be fully on board with that. Puts pretty well every player on each line in positions to succeed while having balanced scoring and 2 way play

 

[conFABulator]

I would be fully on board with that. Puts pretty well every player on each line in positions to succeed while having balanced scoring and 2 way play

That's it exactly. I also like the options, could go..

Robertson Tavares Marner
Domi Nylander Lafferty

- or -

Lafferty Tavares Marner
Domi Holmberg Nylander

- or -

Robertson Tavares Marner
Domi Holmberg Nylander
Lafferty on 4th line

...this all works well with Jarnkrok in the mix too if the cap allows for it.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think it makes too much sense to play Knies with Matthews (and Bertuzzi). Let Marner carry the second line with Tavares (and Robertson). Domi and Nylander (with Lafferty or Holmberg) on the third line.

I think Knies and Matthews could work really, really well together.

What's Robertson done to deserve to be in the top 6?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Putting a $5 or $20 bill down on him to win the Calder might be a shrewd move.

 

[conFABulator]

What's Robertson done to deserve to be in the top 6?

Well, what is your definition of "deserving to be in the top six"? Do you use that phrase interchangeably with "our best six forwards"? I don't.

My proposed forward lines have three lines that can score and each with some defensive conscience and different elements to them.

If you read the thread further you can see that I proposed other combinations that have Lafferty on L2 (no, I don't consider him to be one of our best six forwards either) and Holmberg in on L3. This in case we don't think Robertson is ready. I can't answer the question as to what has Lafferty done to earn a spot on L2 or Holmberg on L3. This is about balance, line construction and chemistry.

Do you build your lines only by putting the "best six forwards" on the top two lines? If not, how do you justify the decision?

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

What's Robertson done to deserve to be in the top 6?

His skill. He definitely a top 6, his talent would be wasted on the third line.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

His skill. He definitely a top 6, his talent would be wasted on the third line.

I have never questioned his talent, I have said he has the talent to be a 25 goal scorer.

But there is a reason I call him "the glass man"

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Well, what is your definition of "deserving to be in the top six"? Do you use that phrase interchangeably with "our best six forwards"? I don't.

My proposed forward lines have three lines that can score and each with some defensive conscience and different elements to them.

If you read the thread further you can see that I proposed other combinations that have Lafferty on L2 (no, I don't consider him to be one of our best six forwards either) and Holmberg in on L3. This in case we don't think Robertson is ready. I can't answer the question as to what has Lafferty done to earn a spot on L2 or Holmberg on L3. This is about balance, line construction and chemistry.

Do you build your lines only by putting the "best six forwards" on the top two lines? If not, how do you justify the decision?

Personally I would put our best 6 forwards in the top 6, and I think that eventually happens we've tried Nylander at center it's never worked.

Now the question is who is our 6th best forward? Knies or Domi? I don't know, That's still undecided at this point.

I can tell you who It isn't though it's not Robertson, and I guarantee you It sure as hell is not Lafferty.

I'm not even sure Lafferty is one of our 12 best forwards, Gregor might be better.

 

[conFABulator]

Personally I would put our best 6 forwards in the top 6, and I think that eventually happens we've tried Nylander at center it's never worked.

Now the question is who is our 6th best forward? Knies or Domi? I don't know, That's still undecided at this point.

I can tell you who It isn't though it's not Robertson, and I guarantee you It sure as hell is not Lafferty.

I'm not even sure Lafferty is one of our 12 best forwards, Gregor might be better.

Fair, thanks

I don't think you have to make your best six forwards fill out your top two lines. I like balance and depth and lines constructed with purpose not just fantasy pool results.

 

[cipher]

Putting a $5 or $20 bill down on him to win the Calder might be a shrewd move.

I love Knies, but unless Bedard gets injured, your wasting your money.

 

[supermann_98]

I love Knies, but unless Bedard gets injured, your wasting your money.

Truth, Bedard is absolutely filthy

 

[WTFMAN99]

I love Knies, but unless Bedard gets injured, your wasting your money.

He's the favorite but you'll get good odds on Knies and Knies is likely playing with good players on a good team all year.

Pretty sure Bertuzzi is gonna get injured.

 

[Gallagbi]

He's the favorite but you'll get good odds on Knies and Knies is likely playing with good players on a good team all year.

Pretty sure Bertuzzi is gonna get injured.

Bedard will carry an offense thats driven through him. I'll be amazed if he isnt a 35 + 35 guy at least

 

[Gabriel426]

If Calle stays. I don't how he is not in the Top 6 over Robertson.

Knies-AM-Bert, AM might not get 60 but he will probably get more points due to being the primary puck carrier and distributer.

Calle-JT-MM, Calle will be doing the digging and scores on rush and also banging in rebounds. JT will score over 40 for sure with MM being the primary puck carrier.

Robbie-WIllie-Domi, will be a speed, up and down line, kind of like the HBK line with the Pens.

Thats what I think Keefe should try early in the season, esp if they have a good start. I think part of the reason the Willie at C experiment ended so early last year was mainly bc the 10mil plus boys were struggling out the gate and Keefe needs Willie to boast them up.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I love Knies, but unless Bedard gets injured, your wasting your money.

But if he does get hurt you could make some serious money.

It happened to Mcdavid

 

[Rob Brown]

I have never questioned his talent, I have said he has the talent to be a 25 goal scorer.

But there is a reason I call him "the glass man"

So the Leafs should just not put him in a position to succeed because he might get hurt, even though he has the talent to play there?

 

[Notsince67]

I think it makes too much sense to play Knies with Matthews (and Bertuzzi). Let Marner carry the second line with Tavares (and Robertson). Domi and Nylander (with Lafferty or Holmberg) on the third line.

I think Knies and Matthews could work really, really well together.

Marner shouldn't have to carry a line with JT at the expense of attenuating the output of Matthews. Marner, Matthews and Bert have the ability of being the best line in hockey. Jt has enough to do an adequate job on a third line. It makes zero sense to have that much firepower on the third. The third becomes the second and then you find Willys minutes cut. That move gives more.minutes to JT and less to Willy.

 

[Nineteen67]

Knies is a great story line to watch this season. Observe how he and the coaches manage the ebbs and flows of a college player’s rookie season.

Whatever it is, define and secure his role so he can perform to the best of his ability in the playoffs.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Bedard will carry an offense thats driven through him. I'll be amazed if he isnt a 35 + 35 guy at least

Bedard is gonna score 35+ and be -40 in +/-

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

So the Leafs should just not put him in a position to succeed because he might get hurt, even though he has the talent to play there?

No it's because he WILL get hurt, it's what he does, it's only a matter of when, not if.

He is the glass man

 

[Rob Brown]

No it's because he WILL get hurt, it's what he does, it's only a matter of when, not if.

He is the glass man

Your point is illogical. You admit he has the talent to play high in the lineup, but he shouldn't because he will get hurt again? So do the Leafs just never give him a chance again? If they start him on the 2nd line let's say, and he gets hurt, then it is what it is. But you don't go to him and say we're putting you on the Marlies because you're bound to get hurt.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Your point is illogical. You admit he has the talent to play high in the lineup, but he shouldn't because he will get hurt again? So do the Leafs just never give him a chance again? If they start him on the 2nd line let's say, and he gets hurt, then it is what it is. But you don't go to him and say we're putting you on the Marlies because you're bound to get hurt.

Even if I believed he could stay healthy who would he replace on the wing?

Marner?
Nylander? (no I don't think Nylander is staying at center)
Bertuzzi?
Domi?
Knies?
Jarnkrok?

Those are the wingers in the top 9

I mean yeah he's better than Reaves and Lafferty/Gregor on line 4 but you can't put him on the 4th line and think he's going to be effective, because he'd have to battle for pucks and that's what gets him hurt.

He's got to be in the top 9, but as of October 2nd 2023 at 7:46 AM Mountain the top 9 is full.

 

[Rob Brown]

Even if I believed he could stay healthy who would he replace on the wing?

Marner?
Nylander? (no I don't think Nylander is staying at center)
Bertuzzi?
Domi?
Knies?
Jarnkrok?

Those are the wingers in the top 9

I mean yeah he's better than Reaves and Lafferty/Gregor on line 4 but you can't put him on the 4th line and think he's going to be effective, because he'd have to battle for pucks and that's what gets him hurt.

He's got to be in the top 9, but as of October 2nd 2023 at 7:46 AM Mountain the top 9 is full.

Nylander is clearly going to start at C at the very least. I'm not saying he is going to stay there, but that's the way it is looking.

Regardless, your comment here about the top 9 being full is different than your original 'he's made of glass so let's not bother' argument.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Nylander is clearly going to start at C at the very least. I'm not saying he is going to stay there, but that's the way it is looking.

Regardless, your comment here about the top 9 being full is different than your original 'he's made of glass so let's not bother' argument.

Well 2 things can be true.

1 he is made of glass he's proven that.

2 even if he could stay healthy the top 9 is full.