Post-Game Talk: Matthew Knies sons the Bruins - Leafs win 6-4
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I wish every period of every game was like the last five minutes of this one.
Exciting finish to an exciting game. Headlined by some exciting play from an exciting player. Knies is probably my favourite Leafs player right now so I was happy to see him have a breakout performance.
His linemates did pretty good too I guess.
Unlike the old men on the second line. That was a tough look for Pacioretty and, especially, Tavares. We saw similar regression in Tavares' play last year after a hot start.
Nobody should be surprised to see reality setting in.
With the team performing so well this year the expectations need to be set higher than another first round loss. Anything short of a conference finals appearance should be considered a major disappointment. Good enough should no longer be good enough to appease the greatest fan base in the world.
It never should have been in the first place.
Exciting finish to an exciting game. Headlined by some exciting play from an exciting player. Knies is probably my favourite Leafs player right now so I was happy to see him have a breakout performance.
His linemates did pretty good too I guess.
Unlike the old men on the second line. That was a tough look for Pacioretty and, especially, Tavares. We saw similar regression in Tavares' play last year after a hot start.
Nobody should be surprised to see reality setting in.
With the team performing so well this year the expectations need to be set higher than another first round loss. Anything short of a conference finals appearance should be considered a major disappointment. Good enough should no longer be good enough to appease the greatest fan base in the world.
It never should have been in the first place.
And this is why we should have signed this guy to an extension before we start worrying about Marner or JT. Seriously the kid does all the right things, back checks, digs pucks in the corner, and has the ability to put the puck in the net.
Great game after a bit of a rough go.
Just glad the team didn’t blow it yet again.
Great game after a bit of a rough go.
Just glad the team didn’t blow it yet again.
Loved that hit in the first period too
Despite Knies scoring a hatty, I think Marner was the MVP once again. This guy is on another planet this year, that training with Mackinnon/Crosby looks like it's paying dividends. I just can't get over how dominating he's been, especially with his feet. He's never gliding around with the puck anymore, he's always striding and moving his feet while controlling the puck, that's really been helping him drive the play.
It's the biggest difference in my opinion, between guys like McDavid/Mackinnon and then the Matthews/Draisaitls, all elite but McDavid/Mackinnon have that ability to play at a very high speed while having full control, Marner is doing that same thing this year.
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The Hanging Jowl
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When I first read that I thought you were going to talk about his ability to kick the puck up to his stick or redirect it with his skates. I've never seen a player that can do this like him and somehow he still eludes a big hit. Most guys get buried when they have their eyes looking down at their skates.
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Sorry, I do not see that. Mac and McD scare the shit on dmen when they are coming at them one on one. They will go around you or through you. Marner is not that type of threat. Let's see if he can dance in the playoffs. I have never seen the NHL so soft in the regular season. I see players using their sticks battling for pucks in their skates in front of the net. In the playoffs, a dman will knock you on your ass to separate you from the puck.
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Good to see Knies bounce back after his chat with Berube. Looking more and more like the power forward this team has been lacking.
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Do you have more info on that. What was said or is there more detail? Whatever it was it worked
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I only heard that Berube had a chat with him and said he needed to get back to doing the things he was doing. He's been a beast the past few games playing with and without 34. This is one likeable player.
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Terrific game from Matthews. By far his best of the season.
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I'll never look at "advanced stats". I need the following stats and these only:
Player stats:
- Points
- +/-
- Does the player play head to head against top lines and consistently in defensive zone situations or are they protected by playing against weaker lines and starting in offensive zone situations.
Team stats:
- Points
- Goal differential.
Been watching hockey a long time and with just this information, I'm confident saying it ALWAYS matches the eye test.
The only link I could find has a pretty thorough accounting, including Berube's quotes about it afterwards:
Leafs HC Craig Berube Challenges Matthew Knies in One-on-One Meeting
Craig Berube expects more out of Matthew Knies, and recently had a meeting with the power forward to try and get him kickstarted again after a long offensive drought
www.hockeypatrol.com
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That's fair. Your third player stat starts to get into "advanced stats" for me.
As for points, wouldn't ES points be more useful or additionally useful? Some guys don't put up the same points because they don't get the same PP time.
+/- is useful, but really just a poor man's version of possession stats so if you care about what that stat tells you I could see why you might want more fidelity in the number you are looking at.
Not being argumentative, I agree that a small bundle of stats might give you 90% of what a spreadsheet's worth of stats do. I am just offering unsolicited thoughts on how to tweak that small bundle for greater utility.
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Far too loose of a defensive effort tonight, yeah we won but Boston is a pretty shitty team and we were lucky to come out with a win. Berube has not coached this team in a month, there are far too many brain farts with this team. We beat a goalie who clearly the book is out on him, shoot high, we beat a team that is clearly struggling.
We had a couple of circus goals that you can't rely on to be there every night. Marner wont be there to bail the team out every night and get 5 points every night.
I'm happy with the 2 points for us and the 0 points for Boston but really disappointed in the dogshit team defensive play and the mental lapses. That 3rd line cannot be the 3rd line we start the playoffs with, they are chaos in every zone. Berube was brought in to tighten up defensive responsibilities. Outside of our goalies, take Woll and Stolie out of the equation and this team is no better defensively than any Leaf team in the last decade.
We had a couple of circus goals that you can't rely on to be there every night. Marner wont be there to bail the team out every night and get 5 points every night.
I'm happy with the 2 points for us and the 0 points for Boston but really disappointed in the dogshit team defensive play and the mental lapses. That 3rd line cannot be the 3rd line we start the playoffs with, they are chaos in every zone. Berube was brought in to tighten up defensive responsibilities. Outside of our goalies, take Woll and Stolie out of the equation and this team is no better defensively than any Leaf team in the last decade.
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I agree. My point about +/- is that it's only a useful stat if you know the player's usage against top lines and in d-zone starts. I guess you're right, that's a bit of an advanced stat. I'm really just talking about those stats like Corsi whatever that is. I don't know and I never will.
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Agreed. Too many mistakes that need to be tightened up. They have 3-4 months before the playoffs to fix all of this.
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Thanks for posting the link. Berube just seems to be great at getting the best out guys
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ToneDog
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Just watch when he's in the offensive zone with the puck. In years prior his feet weren't moving, he was still creating space and finding lanes. This season his feet have constantly been moving when he has the puck, he's always moving, accelerating or slowing down just always moving his feet. Plus he's hitting/finishing his checks, that's creating turnovers as well.
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Turnovers and some key faceoff losses made this game closer than it could have been, but nice win.
