Matt Rempe hit on Nathan Bastian (No Hearing)

[All Mod Cons]

Parros is trolling the f*** out of the Leafs.

 

[Foppberg]

The onus is always on the guy throwing the hit to do it safely. When the first point of contact is the shoulder pad (A hard piece of plastic) to the head, it's a match penalty all day long in my book. That being said, I don't think he intended to head-shot the guy, but it happened. It's really no different than Dillon's hit a couple weeks back. The intent is to throw a clean, hard check. But sometimes it turns out to be a car-wreck and not a picasso.

And on the receiving player to not put himself in a vulnerable spot.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He was already essentially suspended for a game. This was his first shift of the game and less than three minutes in.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

What are you even talking about

I don't know what he's talking about, but he's talking like yet another mouth breather that can't distinguish anything from whatever agenda there happens to be on their preferred cable news channel.

 

[RangerBoy]

The NHL owes Rempe an apology.

 

[ElLeetch]

Didn't look that bad until your realize he had a guy in a vulnerable position. Elbow right to the head. No need for that.

No, the 'guy' had *himself* in a vulnerable position. Thats not of Rempe's doing.

 

[JimmyG89]

If they're counting that it was basically a full game he missed anyway, I can see why no 1 game suspension.

No elbow, no charge, no board, stick down, middle of the body with head contact. The officials on the ice made the right decision.

 

[TGWL]

I knew he was a bigger guy, but I had to double check Bastian's height for a second. Rempe and Edstrom make him look like he's 5'10'' in that clip.

Borderline hit and shouldn't be suspendable, but maybe Rempe deserves to be suspended for a game or two to teach him to hold back a little bit. At his size, a lot of players are going to be injured if he's doing that every game

Yeah, he's a big boy. I'm sure I'll be called bias because I'm a NYR fan, but I don't think there was intent to injure, or intent to throw a predatory hit. I don't even think there's intent to target the head. Those are words fans love to toss around. However, there's clearly an intent to hit and he's a big, big boy, and needs to be aware of his surroundings. It doesn't matter if you standing straight up and another player is coming straight at you. He has to have better awareness of players in vulnerable situations, or just situations where a bad outcome is likely. A simply stop while turning his body and nobody questions anything, even if Bastian still has his head hit. But he's driving right through a player here in a situation where all you need is puck separation. I don't know that this warrants more than the game he already received. But I can see the debate for more games because in the end it still falls on the player to be more aware. I think not taking it further in suspension is the right call.

 

[eco's bones]

Well the Devils have two games left this season to get even with Rempe (if he doesn't go back to the AHL) and/or the Rangers. The best way of course would be to win both because they're at a point where they definitely need to win games anyway.

It's a mean game and always has been. No one ever feels sorry for anybody or their respective teams for very long.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

1st one doesn't look good. Looks like pure head shot.

2nd one doesn't look that bad at all, actually. Looks like body and head all at same time.

Agreed.

It's all going to come down to if the DoPS feels like he hit solidly to the core of the players body. That makes the head contact legal.

When I saw the first angle I thought it was definitely going to be a lengthy suspension. Seeing the reverse angle I'm not so sure. He catches him to the head in a brutal way but also does get a lot of the upper chest.

My guess is 2 games but who knows.

EDIT: was made aware there's no supplemental discipline. DoPS must've felt the contact to the body was enough, which I can understand.

 

[lakeshirts37]

this ain’t it dude. It was a hit to the head.

 

[OysterForever]

Rempe had the option to play the situation with dozen different outcomes but he decided to inflict brain damage. Jesus. Should be at least couple matches worth penalty, but with Parros I expect two at maximum.

He seemed fine when he returned earlier

Kariya seemed fine too.

 

[GAGLine]

Agreed.

It's all going to come down to if the DoPS feels like he hit solidly to the core of the players body. That makes the head contact legal.

When I saw the first angle I thought it was definitely going to be a lengthy suspension. Seeing the reverse angle I'm not so sure. He catches him to the head in a brutal way but also does get a lot of the upper chest.

My guess is 2 games but who knows.

It has already been reported earlier in the threat that there will be no supplementary discipline.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It has already been reported earlier in the threat that there will be no supplementary discipline.

oh I missed that! Thanks.

Seems like there should be a thread title update for those like myself who havent had their coffee yet and are a bit slow

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I was fine with the major in game, I'm also fine with no suspension. He caught too much of the head to be unpunished but wasn't intentional enough to warrant a suspension.

Ranger fans need to stop crying about Bastian not getting an instigator after the Trouba hit though, they gave him an extra for roughing so ya'll still got the PP.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Yeah, he's a big boy. I'm sure I'll be called bias because I'm a NYR fan, but I don't think there was intent to injure, or intent to throw a predatory hit. I don't even think there's intent to target the head. Those are words fans love to toss around. However, there's clearly an intent to hit and he's a big, big boy, and needs to be aware of his surroundings. It doesn't matter if you standing straight up and another player is coming straight at you. He has to have better awareness of players in vulnerable situations, or just situations where a bad outcome is likely. A simply stop while turning his body and nobody questions anything, even if Bastian still has his head hit. But he's driving right through a player here in a situation where all you need is puck separation. I don't know that this warrants more than the game he already received. But I can see the debate for more games because in the end it still falls on the player to be more aware. I think not taking it further in suspension is the right call.
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Picture is all I need to give him 5 games. What are we doing here

 

[gimbznyr]

Told ya there wouldn't be a suspension. Head contact was unavoidable.

 

[wetcoast]

And on the receiving player to not put himself in a vulnerable spot.

You're right he should have asked the other NYR to not partially check him then.

don't get me wrong if a player changes direction at the last second all by himself that's unfortunate but that's not what happened here.

 

[GAGLine]

I was fine with the major in game, I'm also fine with no suspension. He caught too much of the head to be unpunished but wasn't intentional enough to warrant a suspension.

Ranger fans need to stop crying about Bastian not getting an instigator after the Trouba hit though, they gave him an extra for roughing so ya'll still got the PP.

You're right that it doesn't really matter. With the instigator, Bastian would have gotten an additional 10 minute misconduct, but he ended up leaving the game anyway.

It's just annoying that every time Trouba lands a hit like that, he ends up having to fight and is lost for 5 minutes. I'm not going to argue with you about how clean those hits are, but even you must admit that his hit on Bastian was clean. Trouba shouldn't need to defend himself and then sit in the box for 5 minutes just because he landed a good, clean hit.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Told ya there wouldn't be a suspension. Head contact was unavoidable.

Dumbest comment yet

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

You're right that it doesn't really matter. With the instigator, Bastian would have gotten an additional 10 minute misconduct, but he ended up leaving the game anyway.

It's just annoying that every time Trouba lands a hit like that, he ends up having to fight and is lost for 5 minutes. I'm not going to argue with you about how clean those hits are, but even you must admit that his hit on Bastian was clean. Trouba shouldn't need to defend himself and then sit in the box for 5 minutes just because he landed a good, clean hit.

Agreed.

I'm not really a fan of Trouba but making a guy fight after he throws a clean hit should always result in a 2, 5, and 10. A lot of people complain about the league trying to make it a No Hit League but then are weirdly ok with a guy having to fight for throwing a legal hit.

Hockey is a tough sport. Guys are gonna get hit hard sometimes. You get up and take a number.

 

[HolyHagelin]

Ranger fans need to stop crying about Bastian not getting an instigator after the Trouba hit though, they gave him an extra for roughing so ya'll still got the PP.

It is just getting tiresome how often he has to deal with guys coming after him on legal hits. IMO teams that start fights over legal hits ought to face a steeper penalty.

Awesome username btw

 

[HugeInTheShire]

You're right that it doesn't really matter. With the instigator, Bastian would have gotten an additional 10 minute misconduct, but he ended up leaving the game anyway.

It's just annoying that every time Trouba lands a hit like that, he ends up having to fight and is lost for 5 minutes. I'm not going to argue with you about how clean those hits are, but even you must admit that his hit on Bastian was clean. Trouba shouldn't need to defend himself and then sit in the box for 5 minutes just because he landed a good, clean hit.

I'm fine with it, game happens fast and on the ice they don't have the benefit of slow-motion replays, he'd already taken a questionable hit in the game, and then got lit up by a player known for throwing questionable hits and took exception to it.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

The NHL owes Rempe an apology.

Literally nobody is shocked. Terrible call by the on ice officials.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

It is just getting tiresome how often he has to deal with guys coming after him on legal hits. IMO teams that start fights over legal hits ought to face a steeper penalty.

Awesome username btw

I don't know if you saw but I explained my position on the fight after as well, and thanks for the compliment most people don't even notice my name.