Matt Murray- What would you be willing to give up to get rid of him

[Menzinger]

The cost will likely be similar, if not a bit less than what the Leafs paid to get rid of Mzarek. Basically a trade down with a 1st or a mid prospect. Murray has less term and is owed less real $ too.

I expect he's traded by the draft

 

[Racer88]

The cost will likely be similar, if not a bit less than what the Leafs paid to get rid of Mzarek. Basically a trade down with a 1st or a mid prospect. Murray has less term and is owed less real $ too.

I expect he's traded by the draft

Do we have many picks to give away

 

[Menzinger]

Do we have many picks to give away

I see a new GM being much more inclined to deal prospects than picks

 

[Racer88]

I see a new GM being much more inclined to deal prospects than picks

Fair enough

 

[keonsbitterness]

I already got my wish for the return of Matt Murray and that was the removal and replacement of the former GM that made that ridiculous trade. and the TRUE answer of what would I be willing to give up to get rid of him. I was willing to give up another wasted Leafs playoff season as long as accountability for that action was accompanying the expected suffering it would bring on.

Virtually everybody in Leaf Nation, was on board this year & accepted that this would be Dubas last year in Toronto (while playing out a lame duck and on an earn it contract), after he hitched his wagon to Matt Murray and his former Stanley Cup experience claiming the answer to Leafs playoff struggles and if it it failed he would be toast and deservedly so, in what I believe all poor decisions should have just consequences.

So as far as I'm concern accountability for that poor decision has already been issued, and the rest of the disposal of this mistake is just the anticipated road kill aftermath, and will always be tied to the former GM anyways. Put him on LTIR, send him to Robidas Island, buy him out or whatever it takes is minor now to close this final chapter.

Brad Treliving is what Toronto got as a result of the Murray trade, and expected disposal cost in year #2 that comes with that.

You got your wish because Dubas either overplayed his hand or purposely got himself fired. He'd still be here had he agreed to Shanahan's March offer. Murray played no factor at all.

If they were to bury him, the cap relief is $1.15M

Since Ottawa retained 25%, do the Leafs get the full $1.15M in cap relief or do they only get 75% ($862.5K) and Ottawa get the other 25% ($287.5K)?

I think it's the full amount.

 

[Funk21]

Unfortunately a lot of reports make it seem like we will be unable to LTIR him.

Do we have to give up the 1st for him if so?

Id almost rather just send him to the Marlies until he gets hurt in 10 games and eat the 3 whatever million that isn't buried from the transaction

Here is a novel idea, buy him out and explain to the premadonas on this team that there is 2 million less next year to spend as simple as that.

This along the fact that AM doesn’t deserve more than 12 per and Nylander doesn’t deserve a cent above 9. Salary cap handled.

 

[Superstar]

Nothing. Dubas ain't running the show anymore...no more giving up a 1st to get rid of his own bad signings.

 

[SnizzNasty88]

My god, yet another goalie that we have to pay to get rid of. Kyle Dubis was the worst GM this team ever had. A true and absolute donkey. Hopefully that idiot takes Murray back to PIT for future considerations.

 

[DarkKnight]

Recall last year how many of us couldn’t believe Ottawa actually got Dubas to retain 75 percent of his cap hit. There was nobody here on board with that, 50 percent was the max we heard floated. Dubas went after a broken down Hail Mary, Ottawa fans couldn’t believe their good fortune, now it’s up to Treliving to extract us from this mess. Murray was exactly as advertised.

 

[Dayjobdave]

The thing about Murray is that he could go on a Bob run in the playoffs, either for us or someone else.

 

[ToneDog]

You got your wish because Dubas either overplayed his hand or purposely got himself fired. He'd still be here had he agreed to Shanahan's March offer. Murray played no factor at all.

I think it's the full amount.

As Ron White says, you can't fix stupid. Shanny continues to prove he is stupid.

The thing about Murray is that he could go on a Bob run in the playoffs, either for us or someone else.

That is Kyle Dubas thinking 101.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Unfortunately a lot of reports make it seem like we will be unable to LTIR him.

Do we have to give up the 1st for him if so?

Id almost rather just send him to the Marlies until he gets hurt in 10 games and eat the 3 whatever million that isn't buried from the transaction

Nothing just LTIR him or buy him out there is no such thing as healthy Matt Murray it doesn't exist.

Big Foot has a better chance of being real then a healthy Matt Murray

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The thing about Murray is that he could go on a Bob run in the playoffs, either for us or someone else.

No he can't, that would require him being healthy and not injured every time the wind blows in his general direction

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

My god, yet another goalie that we have to pay to get rid of. Kyle Dubis was the worst GM this team ever had. A true and absolute donkey. Hopefully that idiot takes Murray back to PIT for future considerations.

Kyle Dubas was not the worst GM the team ever had.

JFJ was MUCH worse, as was Dave Nonis.

But Kyle Dubas can't evaluate goaltending to save his life.

 

[justashadowof]

The thing about Murray is that he could go on a Bob run in the playoffs, either for us or someone else.

The big guy seems way too fragile to have that happen again before he retires. Samsonov and Woll are way more likely to go on a run like that than 2023 Matt Murray.

 

[justashadowof]

Kyle Dubas was not the worst GM the team ever had.

JFJ was MUCH worse, as was Dave Nonis.

But Kyle Dubas can't evaluate goaltending to save his life.

I can name several far worse GMs in Leafs' history: JFJ, Floyd Smith, Gerry McNamara, Gord Stellick. Dubas wasn't that bad, probably on par with Jim Gregory who also turned the team into a star player run country club. I could rhyme off several excellent moves Dubas made despite my distaste for his cult of personality management style.

 

[horner]

What is our Cap hit if he goes to the minors and can we leave him for the yr ?

 

[Suntouchable13]

Good thing about Treliving that at least he woulnd’t have made a trade like that. He doesn’t have connections to the Soo. He is going to jettison his ass far far away from Toronto.

 

[bbgobie]

I'll say it.
Nothing.
Murray at his best was better than Samsonov at his best.

I wouldn't count on Samsonov and Woll to be healthy an entire season, and I certainly am not betting my house on Samsonov. He hasn't been great in the playoffs, he was lucky we made it to the 2nd round other wise he'd be the next goalie that underperformed in the playoffs and we'd all be crying to get him out of here.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure why everyone is in love with Samsonov, he played like trash the 1st round and didn't win us the 2nd round.

 

[Brobust]

Buyout is $700k year 1 and $2M year 2.

I'm not paying much to get rid of him.

 

[TakeTheBody]

Lunch?

 

[Racer88]

Kyle Dubas was not the worst GM the team ever had.

JFJ was MUCH worse, as was Dave Nonis.

But Kyle Dubas can't evaluate goaltending to save his life.

Before we totally claim he is not the worst GM, we need to see how the 3 contracts play out. If we lose players for nothing that will be on Dubas for the wasy he structured the team

 

[tmlms13]

Murray + #28 to someone for a pick in the mid second round. (Detroit is a good target)

 

[WTFMAN99]

I would agree not to press tampering charges against Pittsburgh if they agree to take Murray.

 

[Buds17]

I'll say it.
Nothing.
Murray at his best was better than Samsonov at his best.

I wouldn't count on Samsonov and Woll to be healthy an entire season, and I certainly am not betting my house on Samsonov. He hasn't been great in the playoffs, he was lucky we made it to the 2nd round other wise he'd be the next goalie that underperformed in the playoffs and we'd all be crying to get him out of here.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure why everyone is in love with Samsonov, he played like trash the 1st round and didn't win us the 2nd round.

Samsonov played more often in comparison to Murray while also playing better. Yes, Samsonov wasn't great in the playoffs. However, Murray...