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Matt Murray- What would you be willing to give up to get rid of him
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If you're looking for signs of the potential breakup between Matt Murray and the Toronto Maple Leafs, unfollowing the team you played for in the off-season and during the buyout window is a pretty good sign that a trade or buyout is on the horizon.
A report from Sens Buzz on Twitter revealed that Murray has officially unfollowed the Leafs on Instagram, which will certainly add fuel to the fire that he will be gone within the week.
With a week remaining to buy out undesirable contracts, the Maple Leafs have been rumoured to be considering parting ways with the veteran goaltender and saving a large amount of cash along the way. A buyout would save the Leafs 4 million this year and only accrue a cap hit of $687,500, but then it would rise to $2 million in dead money the following season.
A break-up between both sides is well on the horizon and it's more of a "when" situation rather than an "if". Murray couldn't stay healthy and when he was in the lineup, he was subpar at best.
A report from Sens Buzz on Twitter revealed that Murray has officially unfollowed the Leafs on Instagram, which will certainly add fuel to the fire that he will be gone within the week.
With a week remaining to buy out undesirable contracts, the Maple Leafs have been rumoured to be considering parting ways with the veteran goaltender and saving a large amount of cash along the way. A buyout would save the Leafs 4 million this year and only accrue a cap hit of $687,500, but then it would rise to $2 million in dead money the following season.
A break-up between both sides is well on the horizon and it's more of a "when" situation rather than an "if". Murray couldn't stay healthy and when he was in the lineup, he was subpar at best.
ULF_55
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Or he's one of the professional athletes signing off social media?
It is the best of times and it is the worst of times on social media.
HamiltonNHL
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He was near ready to come back during the playoffs, it'd be tough to convince the league that he's ineligible to play come September training camp
we have the cap space to fit sammy in at 4 million even with Murray.
HamiltonNHL
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He’s been incapable of playing more than a few games …. FOR YEARS.
The guy is a few bricks shy of a load if he attempts ANOTHER comeback
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I say we wrap him up, slap a stamp on him and send back to his rightful owner.
Ianturnedbull
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Like most people I thought that Murray/Samsonov tandem was risky. I'm glad it worked pretty well with Samsonov. To Dubas' credit Murray started off well, but down the road turned into the Murray we expected. We might be more down on Murray/Dubas if Woll had no contributions last season. I still don't know how the Murray trade went down without a lot more retention. I think OTT knew that it was pressure time for Dubas.
Here we are stuck with $4,687,500 of Murray's last season. I think that he's likely going to be in denial about his health. He's just trying to get full pay as he limps to the end of his career. I don't blame the guy, but I wish it was OTT he did this to and not TOR.
The best and only solution will likely be a buy-out IMHO.
Stephen
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He actually does seem like the kind of guy who will go hero mode and try to mount a comeback and talk tough in the offseason only to pull something in warmup Game 1 and miss 3 months.
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The buyout option strikes me as likely the worst by far here unless they're banking on the rising cap next off season being able to the negate the dead cap
Buyout is the worst, by far. It hits the cap for a sizeable amount in our tightest year. I hope Treliving isn't considering that. Should be easily movable with a mid-round pick at most.
I'll throw mine in as a sweetener. Although these days he holds negative value.
ToDavid
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Yah they’d be better off eating 50% of his salary this season if it came to it, instead of taking the buyout hit next season. Although I still think they can pretty easily move him at 100%.
Worst case scenario, even with half his cap as dead money, if Woll has success as a backup at $770k we’ll still have some of the most cap efficient goaltending in the league.
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I think it will cost more than a mid-round pick. There is not only the obvious injury history and the likelihood he will miss a big chunk of the season, there is also the obvious performance issues. When he does play, he has been strictly average at best. So the acquiring team gets a player who is frequently injured but can't assume will be on LTIR, poor performance, a high cap hit and, perhaps even more importantly for some teams, a very high outlay of cash. I think it will be hard to find a taker even with 50% retention if the only asset is a mid round pick. A buy out sucks but is probably the best option.
HamiltonNHL
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His risk was he was injured and injury prone.
it never really went well for even a short period of time.
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I don't think a buyout will be necessary. It seems highly likely he'll fail his physical for some reason or another and wile away the season on the LTIR, out of sight, out of mind. It would be very unpleasant for him to think he can force the team to put him on the active roster. He's about to make the biggest yearly salary of his professional career but he has no right to play.
P.S. It's an odd coincidence that our former GM made advantageous deals for the Penguins and Senators then both those organizations were at the top of his list as destinations following his forced firing stunt.
P.S. It's an odd coincidence that our former GM made advantageous deals for the Penguins and Senators then both those organizations were at the top of his list as destinations following his forced firing stunt.
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Murray is owed $6 mil from Leafs in real money ..What GM in his right mind would buy a mind round pick for $6 million when each team is handed a full set 1-7 rounds each year for free?
You can pay a pretty decent player $6 mil in annual salary instead of wasting it on a long-shot lottery ticket of a mid round pick.
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I still find it odd how people completely dismiss his first half of the season prior to his ankle injury, I mean only the leafs truly know the answer but if at the beginning of Jan when he was playing at a 920 sv% till the time he started missing games near the end of january he had a 911 sv%. if he got hurt in the middle of January somewhere and that hurt the remainder of his year I see no reason why when healthy he couldn't be a quality goalie still. again only the leafs know the answer.
Menzinger
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The Hawks traded for Mzarek who was owed more real money than Murray and was under contract for a year longer.
WTFMAN99
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Murray and 28th, OTT 7th 2024 for 44 overall and Blackhawks 7th this year?
They're not buying a pick. They're buying a player, and getting a pick to compensate for the difference between their contract and player value.
Murray's issue is health. When he's actually played, especially when healthy, he's performed above average over the past 2 years. Leafs traded an older, worse goalie coming off a much worse season with worse injuries and more term and more owed money with less positive history and pedigree for about the equivalent of a mid round pick just last year.
I don't see any reason why Murray would cost more. There are always teams looking to change up goaltending.
Pretty much every option is better than a buyout. Keeping him next year is better than a buyout.
