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Value of: Mason McTavish to Chicago

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Zegs2sendhelp said:
Chi don’t have the right pieces to make a mctavish trade appealing.

He’s looking good, biggest issue with him right now is consistency…. He’s shown this year that he is kinda a leader amongst the young players…. And is playing pretty good… still hope his points take a step forward but can say that about a lot of duck players
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Chicago is one of the only teams that do have the right pieces. The issue is Anaheim simply won't move him. They would probably debate it though if Chicago offered up this year's 1st (Misa looks that good)
 
Ledge And Dairy said:
Chicago is one of the only teams that do have the right pieces. The issue is Anaheim simply won't move him. They would probably debate it though if Chicago offered up this year's 1st (Misa looks that good)
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As far as pieces the hawks have young propsects and picks. Don’t think Anaheim needs more young prospects or picks
 
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Ledge And Dairy said:
Chicago is one of the only teams that do have the right pieces. The issue is Anaheim simply won't move him. They would probably debate it though if Chicago offered up this year's 1st (Misa looks that good)
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Sorry i should say "realistic" right pieces.

I dont imagine you are realistically trading Bedard or your 1st rounder this year.

Outside of that idk that much would be that appealing for us.... and even the 1st... idk how likely we are to want more prospects/picks.
 
Ledge And Dairy said:
Chicago is one of the only teams that do have the right pieces. The issue is Anaheim simply won't move him. They would probably debate it though if Chicago offered up this year's 1st (Misa looks that good)
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Like what? If the Ducks are moving McTavish it is for immediate forward help, not picks and prospects. Both teams are rebuilding, but the Ducks are trying to exit their rebuild and be in the playoff conversation next season. Does trading McTavish for picks/prospects make any sense for the Ducks?
 
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Zegs2sendhelp said:
pV said he prefers bridge deals off rookie contract….

But ya an offer sheet would need to be kinda rediculous for Anaheim not to match with our cap space.


Not even sure what kinda of offer we wouldn’t match, curious what Montreal would even offer … tho I guess the threat of offer sheet maybe forces trade talk /shrug
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Yeah obviously not a cap space thing more that philosophy Verbeek and he's clearly not adverse to grinding out negotiations.

I'd be fine giving up 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation so I guess something like 7x8 and hoping they balk at it. If it would take going into the next tier of compensation to get them to walk away I'd be out
 
Ducks need Mctavish to maintain their strength and depth at centre and he's been good this year.

Chicago has nothing interesting to provide that'd replace him in any way. Doubt he'd be on the move anytime soon but i'm sure if we did move Mctavish it'd only be in a trade for a better player (probably a forward).
 
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McTavish is on his way to becoming a perennial 30-30 2C who plays the game hard and has a good compete level. Once you've got one of those you keep him.
 
Jared Dunn said:
Yeah obviously not a cap space thing more that philosophy Verbeek and he's clearly not adverse to grinding out negotiations.

I'd be fine giving up 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation so I guess something like 7x8 and hoping they balk at it. If it would take going into the next tier of compensation to get them to walk away I'd be out
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An 8x7 offer sheet would be calculated at $11.2/year compensation. So whatever the compensation is for 11.2 is what it would be.
 
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Yeah... the Ducks are finally putting it all together (strong goaltending in Dostal, good mix of young puck-movers on LD and grizzled physical RD, McTavish taking a step as a team leader and they have both center and some wing depth [Carlsson, Strome; Terry, Vatrano, Zegras, Killorn, Gauthier, Colangelo) that's gelling together. On paper, if not Bedard, MAYBE a Teravainen+ or Nazar+++? However even then, pillars like him are hard to find hence the early draft position, and so I could see them hold onto him since Mason's probably just breaking out now.
 
Jared Dunn said:
Yeah obviously not a cap space thing more that philosophy Verbeek and he's clearly not adverse to grinding out negotiations.

I'd be fine giving up 1st, 2nd, 3rd compensation so I guess something like 7x8 and hoping they balk at it. If it would take going into the next tier of compensation to get them to walk away I'd be out
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The calculation for the AAV to be used against the RFA compensation is the lessor of the term of the offersheet or 5 years. So, any OS that is 6 or 7 years is divided by 5. Thus, the AAV for the draft pick comp will be higher than the Cap Hit.

So, you're really better off if you are doing an OS, to just go the 5 year term unless you are prepared to part with multiple first rounders.
 
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Jared Dunn said:
Huh? If compensation is based on AAV why would that be the case?

edit: answered above, was unaware of that so in that case, 5 years @ 8 I guess
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I feel like 5 year 8 is prob a pretty easy match for Anaheim to make

Tho PV likes to bridge after ELC…. So might piss him off a bit.

I just don’t think offer sheet work unless you are smart about it like the blues were. Aiming at a core piece prob hardly worth it.


You prob better off trying to trade for him, tho I can’t imagine Canadians would want to even ask for that price(it’s not a 1st + mailloux+ Roy), much more
 
Zegs2sendhelp said:
I feel like 5 year 8 is prob a pretty easy match for Anaheim to make

Tho PV likes to bridge after ELC…. So might piss him off a bit.

I just don’t think offer sheet work unless you are smart about it like the blues were. Aiming at a core piece prob hardly worth it.


You prob better off trying to trade for him, tho I can’t imagine Canadians would want to even ask for that price(it’s not a 1st + mailloux+ Roy), much more
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I would match that if I was Anaheim but there is the potential for it to suck if McT doesn't take a step. Tradewise I just wouldn't move Reinbacher who I'd expect would be the main piece Anaheim would look at

I don't know when/if we'll see a front office mismanage the offseason enough for an opportunity like the Blues got to come up again, McTavish just strikes me as an outside possibility because of Verbeek's history with grinding out negotiations for RFAs and the earlier in the season Cronin comments where he was for some reason dogging him. I don't think it necessarily has to be an offer a team truly can't afford but just trying to push them out of the comfortable range they're willing to sign. Especially with a handful of teams likely to be on internal budgets as the cap rises, not sure if Anaheim will be in that group
 
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Jared Dunn said:
I would match that if I was Anaheim but there is the potential for it to suck if McT doesn't take a step. Tradewise I just wouldn't move Reinbacher who I'd expect would be the main piece Anaheim would look at

I don't know when/if we'll see a front office mismanage the offseason enough for an opportunity like the Blues got to come up again, McTavish just strikes me as an outside possibility because of Verbeek's history with grinding out negotiations for RFAs and the earlier in the season Cronin comments where he was for some reason dogging him. I don't think it necessarily has to be an offer a team truly can't afford but just trying to push them out of the comfortable range they're willing to sign. Especially with a handful of teams likely to be on internal budgets as the cap rises, not sure if Anaheim will be in that group
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idk that there is enough evidence of negotiating grinding… PV has said he prefers bridge deals coming off ELC.

As for mctavish, the org has always been very high on him, so ya I’d imagine it would require some type of overpay…. We have a ton of cap space at our disposal, not sure trying to sign mctavish to offer sheet is the wisest move, as you are more likely to be near the cap soon…. And might be a prime candidate for counter offer sheets
 
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