Value of: Martin Prospisil, Nicolas Deslauriers and Mathieu Olivier to Montréal

[dgibb10]

Yeah, he's worth a lot more than a 1st. Which is exactly why he's not getting traded anytime soon.

Please tell me this is an elaborate joke to show habs fans how stupid they sound when they talk about Xhekaj as if he's some superstar piece and not calgary fans actually being convinced Popisil is a valuable piece lmao

 

[HuGo Sham]

Please tell me this is an elaborate joke to show habs fans how stupid they sound when they talk about Xhekaj as if he's some superstar piece and not calgary fans actually being convinced Popisil is a valuable piece lmao

there isn't a single habs fan who thinks Arber Xhekaj is a superstar

 

[OVO16]

I dont think the FLyers are dying to keep Deslauriers. Most flyers fans will happily drive him to the airport.

Not sure why the Habs need a useless enforcer

 

[jfhabs]

Why do you continue to post about the Flames? You were adamant that Markstrom was terrible and that there was no chance NJ would trade for him (I kid you not you probably had about 100 posts about him)

Calgary was 4-14-1 without Pospisil in the lineup. They were 34-25-4 with him. He was +15. “Ineffective”

You clearly have no idea wtf you’re talking about

Yeah, that comment only applies to the other 2. Pospisil can actually play hockey and be an agitator at the same time.

 

[dgibb10]

there isn't a single habs fan who thinks Arber Xhekaj is a superstar

They sure do value him like one in terms of trades, the same way Pospisil is being valued here.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Please tell me this is an elaborate joke to show habs fans how stupid they sound when they talk about Xhekaj as if he's some superstar piece and not calgary fans actually being convinced Popisil is a valuable piece lmao

While I think that user is overvaluing him here. I can say that Calgary would not move him for less than a 1st. Pospisil's playstyle is very desirable to a lot of teams and at a dirt cheap cap hit for both this year and next Calgary certainly won't be selling low on him. Especially if he can transition to full time center.

 

[Treb]

I dont think the FLyers are dying to keep Deslauriers. Most flyers fans will happily drive him to the airport.

Not sure why the Habs need a useless enforcer

They are under the delusion it would somehow fix our issues.

 

[dgibb10]

While I think that user is overvaluing him here. I can say that Calgary would not move him for less than a 1st. Pospisil's playstyle is very desirable to a lot of teams and at a dirt cheap cap hit for both this year and next Calgary certainly won't be selling low on him. Especially if he can transition to full time center.

Beck Malenstyn would be my comp to throw out for a physical, bottom 6 forward in his mid 20s

I'd throw out Cotter as wellbut since that was a player for player type it's tougher to estimate, although I imagine it was again similar to the Malenstyn price

People underestimate the impact (positive or negative) that penalties can have. Pospisil had the worst penalty differential rate among forwards last year due to his 3 major penalties (Deslaurier I think may have been worse but I always set my minutes cutoff at 500 and deslaurier was just short).

 

[Figgy44]

Did everyone start drinking while reading the thread title or something?

 

[madmike77]

Pospisil is not worth a 1st
Period

Why would Calgary trade him for less than that?

The average 2nd rounder doesn’t make the NHL. So trading him for a 2nd or less is a net loss. Bottom line is he’s a youngish player with upside and there’s no incentive for the Flames to move him.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Find your own rat, ours is playing 1C

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Pospisil is our new Sam Bennett. He’s going to have a really effective NHL career. Imagine trading that for a late first.

 

[dgibb10]

Pospisil is our new Sam Bennett. He’s going to have a really effective NHL career. Imagine trading that for a late first.

So you're going to trade him for a 2nd?

 

[DJJones]

Ya if someone offers Calgary a 2nd for him, they laugh and hang up

 

[HabsAddict]

Oivier is tough and can play. I'm interested in him but certainly not going to give a first rounder for muscle.

A third rounder for Olivier?

 

[Weltschmerz]

Oivier is tough and can play. I'm interested in him but certainly not going to give a first rounder for muscle.

A third rounder for Olivier?

Read post #5 again.

 

[madmike77]

Please tell me this is an elaborate joke to show habs fans how stupid they sound when they talk about Xhekaj as if he's some superstar piece and not calgary fans actually being convinced Popisil is a valuable piece lmao

No one is overvaluing him. He'll be 25 this year. He plays C. He scored at a 30-35 point pace. He was +14 on a bad team. And he's physical. Why would the Flames trade him without an overpayment? He's the type of player you keep around for a rebuild.

His only real issue is injuries.

 

[dgibb10]

No one is overvaluing him. He'll be 25 this year. He plays C. He scored at a 30-35 point pace. He was +14 on a bad team. And he's physical. Why would the Flames trade him without an overpayment? He's the type of player you keep around for a rebuild.

His only real issue is injuries.

Are you suggesting having the worst penalty differential of every forward in the league isn't an issue?

He has not played C at the NHL level. He spent all of last year stapled on Nazem Kadri's wing.

 

[Figgy44]

So you're going to trade him for a 2nd?

Bennett trade was equivalent of two second rounders.

 

[DJJones]

Are you suggesting having the worst penalty differential of every forward in the league isn't an issue?

He has not played C at the NHL level. He spent all of last year stapled on Nazem Kadri's wing.

I mean going into a rebuilding year I'm quite alright with a flying elbow to Marchand being a possibility haha

 

[madmike77]

Are you suggesting having the worst penalty differential of every forward in the league isn't an issue?

He has not played C at the NHL level. He spent all of last year stapled on Nazem Kadri's wing.

He’s centering Huberdeau and Mantha so I guess we’ll see.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

They sure do value him like one in terms of trades, the same way Pospisil is being valued here.

No they don’t lmfao

 

[dgibb10]

He’s centering Huberdeau and Mantha so I guess we’ll see.

Yes, in this upcoming season he is slated to play there.

But he doesn't gain trade value because of his name in a lineup card in the preseason.

If he can be an effective NHL center, it will certainly help his value. Up to this point however, he has not played C at the NHL level

 

[madmike77]

Yes, in this upcoming season he is slated to play there.

But he doesn't gain trade value because of his name in a lineup card in the preseason.

If he can be an effective NHL center, it will certainly help his value. Up to this point however, he has not played C at the NHL level

I think it’s fair to say he won’t be traded. Calgary values him more than an outside team would.

 

[Guttersniped]

Beck Malenstyn would be my comp to throw out for a physical, bottom 6 forward in his mid 20s

I'd throw out Cotter as wellbut since that was a player for player type it's tougher to estimate, although I imagine it was again similar to the Malenstyn price

People underestimate the impact (positive or negative) that penalties can have. Pospisil had the worst penalty differential rate among forwards last year due to his 3 major penalties (Deslaurier I think may have been worse but I always set my minutes cutoff at 500 and deslaurier was just short).

What are you using for penalty differential rate?

This is from Evolving Hockey, forwards min 500 minutes

Spoiler: All Strengths

Spoiler: Even Strength

I release this is a minor point, but as a Devils fan I assumed Haula had him beat in penalty differential at least.

Turns out Stenlund, with a sweet 28 Penalties Taken and 8 Penalties Drawn, is the one true king of terrible Penalty Differentials.