Martin Brodeur: Old school goaltending

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Why do NJ fans even bother? Brodeur is clearly overrated / fluke / washed up / et al :propeller

Apperently, good players are now called "overrated" and underperforming players are called "underrated"
 
Ovechkin+Bure=Goals said:
Damn...Brodeur was shaky against the czech...defenders saved at lest 3 sure goals...

yah true, but give him some props for literally bouncing back, after buddy fell on rolled ontop of martys knee, I think it was his left knee, but he said he fine, Wayne actually went down to confirm marty was in good health, during the intrmission. that looked painfull tho man, just watching that even if Broduer isnt 90% which he should be hopefully, luongo would step in if needed, he could be rusty, but Marty will play and he wants to win so bad, he would probly play no matter what.
 
Ovechkin+Bure=Goals said:
Damn...Brodeur was shaky against the czech...defenders saved at lest 3 sure goals...
Oh geez, now Brodeur is only a product of his defenseman now. :biglaugh:
 
If Luongo would have started today, he would have got the shutout and jumpstarted the Canadian offense with a hat trick in route to a 10 to -2 victory.
 
What today help proved is all those anti-Marty folks who claim that he can't play behind a bad team effectively and his good play is soley result of the his teams play in front of him have no idea what they are talking about.

Well I think it's safe to say this tournament has dispelled yet another silly Brodeur myth.
 
Lou is God said:
What today help proved is all those anti-Marty folks who claim that he can't play behind a bad team effectively and his good play is soley result of the his teams play in front of him have no idea what they are talking about.

Well I think it's safe to say this tournament has dispelled yet another silly Brodeur myth.
I'll never understand the obsession with Brodeur. Cant people enjoy the fact they get to see a legend?
 
Habsaku said:
I'll never understand the obsession with Brodeur. Cant people enjoy the fact they get to see a legend?

They're just jealous, they want to be Brodeur, but they can't. It's hard for them.
 
Lou is God said:
What today help proved is all those anti-Marty folks who claim that he can't play behind a bad team effectively and his good play is soley result of the his teams play in front of him have no idea what they are talking about.

Well I think it's safe to say this tournament has dispelled yet another silly Brodeur myth.
again u (intentionally) mischaracterize ppl who think brodeur is overrated. no one says brodeur's play is solely the product of the team in front of him. it's that he gets too much credit for team success/play, that his play has a lot to do w/ team play--much more than many ppl want to admit.

it's not that he can't play behind a bad team effectively, it's that he doesn't/hasn't consistently. hasn't played like an elite goalie behind bad team. he's certainly a good/great goalie, but he's not an all-time great, or a legend. i doubt he would have won anything on a mediocre team.

brodeur was strong in net today, canada's best player. but that doesn't disprove anything. hnlicka was also good today, and ppl don't say he's great. brodeur was weak against italy and let in a soft goal and several pucks got through him vs czechs. so i guess those games helped prove u wrong? nabokov and luongo were better, so i guess the tourney showed that nabokov and luongo>brodeur?

kim marti'n>brodeur :innocent:
 
nik jr said:
it's not that he can't play behind a bad team effectively, it's that he doesn't/hasn't consistently. hasn't played like an elite goalie behind bad team. he's certainly a good/great goalie, but he's not an all-time great, or a legend. i doubt he would have won anything on a mediocre team.
You just described Patrick Roy.
 
nik jr said:
again u (intentionally) mischaracterize ppl who think brodeur is overrated. no one says brodeur's play is solely the product of the team in front of him. it's that he gets too much credit for team success/play, that his play has a lot to do w/ team play--much more than many ppl want to admit.
You can't be serious man? Don't make me dig up the half of a dozen threads on Brodeur being overrated because of just that claim! In fact the anti-Marty camp has been more vocal about this than the pro-Marty camp has about what you suggest is giving Marty to much credit, in fact we have never done that. Find me any threads or post where someone has suggested that.
nik jr said:
it's not that he can't play behind a bad team effectively, it's that he doesn't/hasn't consistently. hasn't played like an elite goalie behind bad team. he's certainly a good/great goalie, but he's not an all-time great, or a legend. i doubt he would have won anything on a mediocre team.

For the love of God he did just that in this very tournament! I mean com'on, did you watch Team Canada play at all? Forget who's on the team their team play was a freakin' disgrace, they left all their goalies out to dry but Marty still gave them a bona fide chance to win a game against Finland that they had no business winning, just give it up man, honestly.

And as far as him being an all-time great, who ever said he was??? Who are you arguing against that said that? The next time you decide to lecture someone on intentional mis-characterizing people's POV, you should heed your own advice. I have NEVER called him the best goalie of all-time, mostly because I don't think he is.


nik jr said:
brodeur was strong in net today, canada's best player. but that doesn't disprove anything. hnlicka was also good today, and ppl don't say he's great. brodeur was weak against italy and let in a soft goal and several pucks got through him vs czechs. so i guess those games helped prove u wrong? nabokov and luongo were better, so i guess the tourney showed that nabokov and luongo>brodeur?

kim marti'n>brodeur :innocent:
Never once did I say this tournament soley proved anything, I said it helped. And much to the anti-Marty folks chagrin it did. I mean a Marty overrated thread used to get in at least a dozen or so posters claiming he is overrated, but as time passes more and more of them have disappeared, coincidence? I think not.
 
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