Martin Brodeur: Old school goaltending

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Ovechkin+Bure=Goals said:
Habsaku said:
Are you a child? If anything, Roy made it his job to make it look hard.QUOTE]

Are u a child ? Or maybe a frustrated habs fan that never accepted that ROY quit the habs for Denver ? ROY WAS THE KING TO MAKE IT LOOK EASY......ARE U A CHILD ?

Well just learn how to play net....... and then come back and talk....Your only knowledge of goaltending comes from stats.... I mean... you've got to look at the goalie...not just the stats.... OH yeah... and I suppose that you think that the ROcket richard is the best player ever....most skilled eh ?.... yeah your right... and you are surely saying that europeen player don't have their place in today's nhl.... yeah.. and you surely think that Guy Lafleur would score 30 goals in the NHL this year.... just wake up body.... you are a poser fan! (I'm sure you only know the player who are in the top ten offensive leader...)... and you're the kind of guy that must have a Habs jersey with your family name wrote on the back... ??....YEAH... listen to RDS... and get brainwash by ALAIN CHANTELOIS'S comments...I'm sure you are one of those fools who are Booing in the Bell center...fool...


I am just loving these ...'s you've got yourself like 20 of these. How can posters take you seriously with posts like this? So basically this was you thinking that he only looks at stats to say how good a goalie is. And you must be God of all hockey knowledge? you are what 20 years old and you know everything about goaltending? save it, Canada's goaltending is their strongest part of their team and is the least of their problems.
 
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Ovechkin+Bure=Goals said:
Habsaku said:
Are you a child? If anything, Roy made it his job to make it look hard.QUOTE]

Are u a child ? Or maybe a frustrated habs fan that never accepted that ROY quit the habs for Denver ? ROY WAS THE KING TO MAKE IT LOOK EASY......ARE U A CHILD ?

Well just learn how to play net....... and then come back and talk....Your only knowledge of goaltending comes from stats.... I mean... you've got to look at the goalie...not just the stats.... OH yeah... and I suppose that you think that the ROcket richard is the best player ever....most skilled eh ?.... yeah your right... and you are surely saying that europeen player don't have their place in today's nhl.... yeah.. and you surely think that Guy Lafleur would score 30 goals in the NHL this year.... just wake up body.... you are a poser fan! (I'm sure you only know the player who are in the top ten offensive leader...)... and you're the kind of guy that must have a Habs jersey with your family name wrote on the back... ??....YEAH... listen to RDS... and get brainwash by ALAIN CHANTELOIS'S comments...I'm sure you are one of those fools who are Booing in the Bell center...fool...
That is the dumbest reply I've ever gotten and only proves my point, either you've atteined an immaturity level none of us can or you're a child.
 
This season has put me to think that is Brodeur loses his touch? He was superb goaltender very many years, but now he has been just average keeper???
 
Game #5 of the Round Robin: Team Canada versus Team Czech Republic.

Please watch the second period. Martin Brodeur had one of his best periods of date, stopping virtually everything but one 5-on-3 goal which was a beauty blast by Pavol Kubina.

Martin Brodeur is the best Canadian goaltender, without a doubt. Luongo is a fine young goaltender, but he has a long ways to go to amount to Brodeur's expertise in clutch situations.
 
Jay Thompson said:
Game #5 of the Round Robin: Team Canada versus Team Czech Republic.

Please watch the second period. Martin Brodeur had one of his best periods of date, stopping virtually everything but one 5-on-3 goal which was a beauty blast by Pavol Kubina.

Martin Brodeur is the best Canadian goaltender, without a doubt. Luongo is a fine young goaltender, but he has a long ways to go to amount to Brodeur's expertise in clutch situations.


Watch the third period and you'll find that Brodeur let a weak one in.
 
And you'll also understand that after that knuckle-puck, he was once more, invaluable to Team Canada. He will be the #1 star of that game, without a doubt.

Any questions?
 
Shibster31 said:
Watch the third period and you'll find that Brodeur let a weak one in.

Watch the whole period and you'll find that Brodeur stole the win for Canada.
 
Yaaaaawn. This thread is old and boring. If you guys want Luongo to play you can do one of two things.

1) Sim the entire Olympics on NHL06
2) Become a junior hockey coach, do really well, become an AHL coach, do really well, become an NHL assistant coach, do really well, become an NHL coach, do really well, suck up to Gretzky and become coach of Canada.

Number 2 should be easy because you guys are real smart and all, smarter than Team Canada's braintrust. If you don't feel like doing it, feel free to whine about it on HFBoards. I'd love to see you behind the bench of a team "Marty you won the game, but you let in a soft goal in the third, you're off the team"
 
Shibster31 said:
And at the same time, he almost cost Canada the game.

Agreed. His style, in this tournament, is not giving me confidence.

If he played the butterfly, I think he'd only have allowed 2 goals in this tournament instead of 2 a game.
 
Shibster31 said:
What? He did almost cost Canada the game. Brodeur played well, no doubt....but tiwht that weak goal, it almost cost Canada.
From what it sounds like he saved them the game. It's amazing that some people expect shotouts from Marty and if he doesn't give them that then he's an average goalie who's overrated. I mean com'on....
 
Shibster31 said:
What? He did almost cost Canada the game. Brodeur played well, no doubt....but tiwht that weak goal, it almost cost Canada.
Did he not do what he needed to after allowing a bad goal?!

Goalies do not have to be perfect, they just have to get the job done when it's needed, and that's what Brodeur does over and over again.
 
How about Brodeur in the Czech game? Dear god, the man was hot. Canada could have lost that game 5-3 if Brodeur didn't stand on his head. He let in a bad goal but made 4-5 spectacular saves.
 
Lou is God said:
From what it sounds like he saved them the game. It's amazing that some people expect shotouts from Marty and if he doesn't give them that then he's an average goalie who's overrated. I mean com'on....

I don't expect shutouts I expect consitant games from "the best goalie in the world"
 
Shibster31 said:
I don't expect shutouts I expect consitant games from "the best goalie in the world"
And that's what you have gotten from him in these Olympics, consistancy, I have no idea what you might call it.
 
Shibster31 said:
I don't expect shutouts I expect consitant games from "the best goalie in the world"
Do you realize Martin Brodeur is probably the most consistent goaltender in the league? Thats been his trademark.
 
Habsaku said:
Do you realize Martin Brodeur is probably the most consistent goaltender in the league? Thats been his trademark.


^I don't care about the NHL right now I mean now. Marty let a weak one in today, and one against Switzerland.

Do I like Marty? yes lol...I respect him...do I like his style? Hell no..but w/e works for him....All I was nagging about was how he has to make saves harder than they should be.
 
Genghis Keon said:
Ovechkin+Bure=Goals, I hear what you're saying and I agree with you...when Brodeur lets in a weak goal. I'm a goalie too (play the butterfly like 99.9% of the goalies out there) and I cringe at some of the goals Marty lets in, BUT there are some things you have to understand. Every single goalie who has ever played the game has been scored on five hole, and scored on five hole more times than they'd like to remember (if you're a goalie, I'm sure you'll agree that nothing pisses you off more than a five hole goal because it went through you, so there's no excuse for letting it in). When most goalies let in a five hole goal, though, you say "weak goal; he should have had it," but when Brodeur lets in a five hole goal (or other goal that sneaks through him), instead of just saying "bad goal," you question his whole style. The thing is, I don't think Brodeur necessarily lets in more five hole or underarm goals than other elite goalies (I don't think anyone keeps the statistics to check); it's just that it's more noticeable when Marty lets in those goals because of his style, so then you blame the style instead of just saying it's a weak goal like you would say for a fundamental butterfly goalie.

Also, just looking at the bad, you don't see the good. As mentioned, Brodeur's style allows him to have better rebound control and gives him a better chance of stopping the high shots (and I'm sure there are many more ways in which Brodeur's style is superior to the basic butterfly, at least to Brodeur), but you can't definitively say what saves Brodeur and his style makes that might or would have been goals had he played the butterfly. If he makes an easy save, high off his shoulder, you wouldn't think anything of it, but that same shot might have been a goal if played the butterfly. His saves that would have gone in on a pure butterfly goalie aren't as glaring as the few goals he lets in that a butterfly goalie would have (unless the butterfly goalie lets in a bad goal), and that's ignoring that Marty will let in bad goals too that you can't blame on his style (they're just bad goals).

Simply the best post of this thread, or at least the one that summed up what I think on the subject :D

And I myself am a crappy butterfly goalie. Goaltending to me is like poker, 9 out of 10 people can play by the book and make money, and then there can be guys like Gus Hansen who can play junk and be profitable. There's no one right way to do things.

If I dig into my room somewhere, I think I have an old issue of "Goalies World" where Brodeur explains why he doesn't butterfly. Genghis pretty much summed it up, as there are advantages elsewhere.
 
Brodeur said:
Simply the best post of this thread, or at least the one that summed up what I think on the subject :D

And I myself am a crappy butterfly goalie. Goaltending to me is like poker, 9 out of 10 people can play by the book and make money, and then there can be guys like Gus Hansen who can play junk and be profitable. There's no one right way to do things.

If I dig into my room somewhere, I think I have an old issue of "Goalies World" where Brodeur explains why he doesn't butterfly. Genghis pretty much summed it up, as there are advantages elsewhere.
Gus Hanson is disgusting lol goes all in first hand of world series with nothing....next hand gets pocket aces and triples up.
 
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