Marner or Laine?

[Psych0dad]

Holy moly. How does Laine only have 3 assists in 27 games? What is he doing out there when he’s not shooting?

Making plays and defending, stripping pucks off people. The usual hockey stuff.

He makes fantastic plays at times, it just happens to land on Brian Littles stick often and he can't convert. Kyle Connor can sometimes convert them into goals but he has been a bit cold for past 4 games. Hitting posts etc. Laine gave Little an open net twice in one shift in their last game, had Little even gotten the shot off the game would have been done on those. Laine should have just shot it both times, assists are for assistants as he put it. Better chance to hit the net with goalie in the way, than Little hitting empty net.

 

[Psych0dad]

If you ask me they should be put on a line together. In Toronto.

Ha, that would be fun. 90% of Laine hate would turn into admiration

 

[BB88]

Marner is a great player. I like great players. I just can't justify claiming him to be better than the best shooter in the history of the game, because the game is about goal scoring and that ability is the most important one. Acknowledging that doesn't take anything away from other players like Marner. Marner is great on his own right, with his skills.

You just can't help yourself.

News to you, Laine isn't the best player in the game.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Ha, that would be fun. 90% of Laine hate would turn into admiration

It wouldn't be anything like Kariya-Selanne though because they could both score goals.

 

[Psych0dad]

You just can't help yourself.

News to you, Laine isn't the best player in the game.

No he isn't, you are correct.

Will be, but isn't currently.

 

[tapi]

Marner produces twice more offense, he drives the play. I don't think there's an argument to be made for Laine when the gap is so huge despite his goal scoring streaks.

 

[BB88]

No he isn't, you are correct.

Will be, but isn't currently.

Well to you scoring goals beats everything and Laine leads the league in goals so he has to be the best player in the game.

He isn't, and isn't even damm close to being one.

 

[Richardbro]

If I had to start up a team and needed a franchise winger, I would go with Marner. His visions and the way he elevates his linemates is incredible and he can play PP, PK, great in shootouts and just about any position needed in a game.

If I had an already established team, Laine is a big piece that would propel it to greatness.

So it depends.

 

[Psych0dad]

Well to you scoring goals beats everything and Laine leads the league in goals so he has to be the best player in the game.

He isn't, and isn't even damm close to being one.

Yes, scoring goals is the only way to win the game. The most important aspect in hockey.

But he hasn't put enough distance between himself and others yet, to overcome the lack of assists. He is close up there in value but not top yet. He will be though, just needs to develop further physically and needs the coach to play him properly.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

If I had to start up a team and needed a franchise winger, I would go with Marner. His visions and the way he elevates his linemates is incredible and he can play PP, PK, great in shootouts and just about any position needed in a game.

If I had an already established team, Laine is a big piece that would propel it to greatness.

So it depends.

I really doubt Marner would thrive in Carolina.

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

Marner is clearly the better player right now but it wouldn't shock me if Laine is the best winget in the league a couple years down the road if he seriously rounds out the rest of his game.

 

[BB88]

Yes, scoring goals is the only way to win the game. The most important aspect in hockey.

But he hasn't put enough distance between himself and others yet, to overcome the lack of assists. He is close up there in value but not top yet. He will be though, just needs to develop further physically and needs the coach to play him properly.

Laine isn't even close to being one of the best players in the game, not even close.
His game outsidet the shot is way too weak for fight for that title.

Again someone has to create those chances the goals can be scored, someone needs to get the puck& possession.
You replace Barkov with Laine and Florida gets easily worse, no matter if Laine scores more goals.

 

[smitty10]

Laine is a fantastic playmaker. He just doesn't get used as one because he has the best shot in the game. Naturally, he should primarily shoot. In the last game he had two great chances to shoot but he tried to set up Little with a sick feed both times and Little didn't even get a shot on goal on those empty net tap ins. Laine should have shot on both occasions, and the coach should be reminding him "assists are for assistants"

Kind of reminds me of when Phil Kessel was a Leaf. Everyone would only talk about his speed and shot, but gave him no credit for his playmaking ability. At the end of the year, he'd have 45 or 50 assists. Was easily our best playmaker and few recognized it.

 

[Stamkos4life]

As other have said, I'd take marner, for now, based on their overall impact.

Its hard to argue against laine's goal scoring abilities but he doesnt do enough when he isnt scoring.

 

[hockeeyyy]

the best shooter in the history of the game

lmfao

 

[Iapyi]

Marner is a great player. I like great players. I just can't justify claiming him to be better than the best shooter in the history of the game, because the game is about goal scoring and that ability is the most important one. Acknowledging that doesn't take anything away from other players like Marner. Marner is great on his own right, with his skills.

You just can't help yourself.

News to you, Laine isn't the best player in the game.

No he isn't, you are correct.

Will be, but isn't currently.

Good to know you don't even take yourself seriously.

Keep on babbling, it is great comedy.

 

[Psych0dad]

Laine isn't even close to being one of the best players in the game, not even close.
His game outsidet the shot is way too weak for fight for that title.

Again someone has to create those chances the goals can be scored, someone needs to get the puck& possession.
You replace Barkov with Laine and Florida gets easily worse, no matter if Laine scores more goals.

There is no point in us arguing this. We see things compeletely differently, always have and likely always will. You can repeat he is nowhere close until blue in the face, that won't make any change in my position.

actualized results can change my mind, not opinions of posters.

 

[Hint1k]

In a world where a winner of a hockey game defined by a quantity of assists Marner is certainly better. While in this world only goals are counted. So it not a fair comparison. Laine is like 5 times better player.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Holy moly. How does Laine only have 3 assists in 27 games? What is he doing out there when he’s not shooting?

6 goals, what is Marner doing out there when he's not passing

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

6 goals, what is Marner doing out there when he's not passing

Laine is letting other players score when opponents are guarding him on the PP.

 

[BB88]

There is no point in us arguing this. We see things compeletely differently, always have and likely always will. You can repeat he is nowhere close until blue in the face, that won't make any change in my position.

actualized results can change my mind, not opinions of posters.

I mean you thought 115 points last year was possible for Laine so yeah it's incredible difficult.

 

[EXPECT THE LEAFS]

When Marner is on his game, he's dominate. Just all over the place, and impossible to contain.

 

[BayStreetBully]

6 goals, what is Marner doing out there when he's not passing

It did strike me as odd for a star to have only 3 assists in 27 games. It’s very easy to get an assist in hockey. Up to 2 players can get an assist on every goal.

It would be cool to see Laine score 50 goals. The record for least amount of assists for a 50 goal season is Ovechkin, with 21 assists. I do think Laine will eventually hit 21 assists, whether he scores 50 goals or not.

Fun fact. The record for least amount of assists for a 40 goal season is Joe Malone in 1918, with 4 assists. However, I think the league only allowed 1 assist per goal back then?

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I just have to ask, why is it Laine vs every other player in the known universe all the time in here?

Because Laine is a difficult player to rate due to his unique play style.

Marner.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

It did strike me as odd for a star to have only 3 assists in 27 games. It’s very easy to get an assist in hockey. Up to 2 players can get an assist on every goal.

It would be cool to see Laine score 50 goals. The record for least amount of assists for a 50 goal season is Ovechkin, with 21 assists. I do think Laine will eventually hit 21 assists, whether he scores 50 goals or not.

Fun fact. The record for least amount of assists for a 40 goal season is Joe Malone in 1918, with 4 assists.

Marner is getting an obscene amount of primary assists. Dude is setting up so many goals.