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Mitch "the grown man" Marner would retire if Keefe did this.

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Torts would totally Pat our Quinn up if coming to Toronto. Too bad we havent been able to get these legendary coaches lately. Burns and Quinn rocked worlds and boats. It was a conference final case back then. Many many times.
 
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Players talking shit and not doing shit is exactly what's wrong with this team. Mental midgets.

Shut up and go win something. Anyone would be fed up with their no business like approach to the game after 5+ seasons.
 
Torts would totally Pat our Quinn up if coming to Toronto. Too bad we havent been able to get these legendary coaches lately. Burns and Quinn rocked worlds and boats. It was a conference final case back then. Many many times.
If my coach came at me like that i would put laxative and some calming drug in his coffee. Or spray water at him . That style works with some player not with all. Not all players need a manic muppet going at them.
That said, what Keefe said should be nothing you take back or even have to explain. That was beyond stupid. It must be ok to give and even prefered to get negative feedback.

Maby it was just a "we know we suck right now, but you dont have to feed it to the wolfs" Moment. Who knows. Not a big deal. hope they bring it next game.

I would like to se some "angry P.Forsberg" eyes in Matthews and Marner.
 
"We are grown men..."

... who believe we've reached a status of being above public criticism, especially from the figureheads who act out the role of our leadership.

The media lives for this stuff. They can smell the blood in the water. They are going to circle this incessantly until they get the satisfaction of causing a change to the team in one way or another. This is how they endure months and months of samey uninteresting answers to samey inane questions covering a team and a sport they may or may not even like.

This is another story as old as professional sports. This is often an opening for a team to subtly cut back its effort and attention to detail.
 
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You mean HFLeafs? This place is always a full blown dumpster fire.

I’m a Leafs fan who can’t stand to be in this board more than 5 minutes at a time. The relentless negativity is embarrassing to even associate with.

The negativity is because the lack of results. It is also because of the perceived entitlement being projected from our players. Muskoka Five 2.0 was established by a "nice guy" GM that now appears to exposed himself as being truly inept. We're sitting on the worst team tending in the league to start the season, .884% and the majority of the posters here knew it was very likely.

The alternative to this board would be to sit in your home, be quiet and DVR actual cheerleaders, get your own set of poms. You're welcome to RaRa and floss along with Mitch's mom anytime but you're actually here complaining about people that are addressing issues with this team and talking shop.

No offense intended.
 
The negativity is because the lack of results. It is also because of the perceived entitlement being projected from our players. Muskoka Five 2.0 was established by a "nice guy" GM that now appears to exposed himself as being truly inept. We're sitting on the worst team tending in the league to start the season, .884% and the majority of the posters here knew it was very likely.

The alternative to this board would be to sit in your home, be quiet and DVR actual cheerleaders, get your own set of poms. You're welcome to RaRa and floss along with Mitch's mom anytime but you're actually here complaining about people that are addressing issues with this team and talking shop.

No offense intended.
Some are negative because of the results. Others are negative because that is who they are. There are many alternatives to this board other than DVRing cheerleaders. People can enjoy watching the game with friends and the like, or stay and take the whinny posters with a grain of salt.
Like last season, many of the whinny posters are patting themselves on their back with their I told you sos, and like last year most of them will disappear if the team starts winning.
 
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Great question by the reporter" Are we at the point now where they are such delicate flowers that you have to watch the words that you use?"
Finally a leafs reporter who doesn't shill 24/7.
Who asked that? Genuinely curious because I can't stomach even watching that video
 
Keefe made some comments about the star players, media of course blew it way out of proportion. Keefe had a conversation behind doors with the leadership group, same as any other team. Keefe then tried to clarify his statements to the media because he saw how they and some fans have completely overreacted to something minor.

This is honestly nothing, but of course the media in Toronto is trying to make it something. I guess this is what happens when people overreact after 4 games into the season.
I think the over reaction first came from Keefe then his star players. The media and fans had nothing to do with it.
 
Ya this seems like nothing, media and some fans trying to stretch it into something it ain’t. Just let it go.
 
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Ya this seems like nothing, media and some fans trying to stretch it into something it ain’t. Just let it go.
Think you're missing the point. It WAS nothing but Keefe walking it back made it something.

There was ZERO need for Keefe to even do what he did unless of course it came from above. The whole thing just plays into the narrative that the team is mentally soft and coddled.

I see nothing positive gained from Keefe walking this back.
 
The negativity is because the lack of results. It is also because of the perceived entitlement being projected from our players. Muskoka Five 2.0 was established by a "nice guy" GM that now appears to exposed himself as being truly inept. We're sitting on the worst team tending in the league to start the season, .884% and the majority of the posters here knew it was very likely.

The alternative to this board would be to sit in your home, be quiet and DVR actual cheerleaders, get your own set of poms. You're welcome to RaRa and floss along with Mitch's mom anytime but you're actually here complaining about people that are addressing issues with this team and talking crap.

No offense intended.
 
The media here is insane, but I really don’t blame them in this instance. Keefe already has a rep of being “too chatty” in his scrums, all he had to say is it’s an internal matter, behind closed doors, like Marner did actually. Instead, he finds it necessary to expand and make himself look weak in the process, this is on him. First day in TO Sheldon?
 
It's hilarious to me that a lot of people are laughing at Marner being an emotional person and then calling himself a grown man...

This entire board has turned into a bunch of emotional "grown men" whining all the time.
 
Torts would totally Pat our Quinn up if coming to Toronto. Too bad we havent been able to get these legendary coaches lately. Burns and Quinn rocked worlds and boats. It was a conference final case back then. Many many times.
I think I've tied the two together before, but...Absolutely. Absolutely! Great point.
 
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Yup, this place has gone way downhill.

You know what really went downhill Gary? Our expectations for this team and there was never a reason for that to happen. It's the product of organizational mismanagement. In the final year(s) of our most coveted players cost effective contracts, we should not be sitting here listening to team dramas and have a tender tandem this weak. .884 sv% on a "contender"?
 
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