TSN: Marner on tsn: "We are grown men".
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Gary Nylund
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A year ago I would have agreed with this but last season was different to me. The previous 4 years we didn't show up for game 7 but against TB, we fought hard until the bitter end. Still a loss of course and it doesn't make for the previous disasters, but it's something anyway.
Wonder why Tortz never sticks around for more than two years. Probably because acting like a raving lunatic has a very limited shelf life...
Guessing you're a young fan or you've somehow managed to erase the memory of the post-lockout era.
By never sticks around for more then two years you mean
16 years in Nashville, 4 in Washington ( including a cup) and 4 in new York?
How many coaches have the Leafs burned through the last 20 years? At least Torts would have snapped our snowflakes back to reality in those two years.
Torts is this generation's Mike Keenan, in that his style wears out fast. And rocketman, it's worth mentioning that the 8 years in Tampa was split across the lockout, so it's closer to two 3-year sessions or so. Torts' shelf life is around 4 years.
No doubt best team has played in any playoff series so far .. we were a bad refs call away from winning game 6 which still pisses me off (where was da control room on a high stick call where Tampa D should have got box himself instead for a complete BS embellishment)
Gary Nylund
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It was. It's also ridiculous that we had to wait so many years for them to show up in a game 7, and I still can't explain that, or justify it. This team is an enigma and I would think this is their last shot. Fail again in the playoffs and I will be shocked if there aren't major changes. Then again, I would have thought big changes were coming after losing to MTL so take that FWIW.
TheGreenTBer
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I haven't watched this team in years but in this case I'm confident in what I'm saying: there is no world in any universe where losing Auston Matthews for nothing is acceptable. That absolutely cannot be an acceptable outcome. No one in the front office could justify keeping their jobs if that were to occur.
Good to see you brother, what a name from the past.
Dubas should have said something to back his coach regarding his stars. We have stood by this group and played cap gymnastics to accommodate the greed of 3 players. Nylander while slightly overpaid at the beginning is a pretty fair to a bit of a value contract but it seems in Toronto you get paid before you win anything.
Furthermore they didn’t like the previous coach and got him fired. Sheldon was their pick and has been a decent coach given the team he has to throw out night in and night out. The high end players deserve to be called out because there is zero reason we should have lost that game to an AHL team. I get that the season is 82 games and it’s only 4 games in but points always matter.
Sad to see that the inmates run the asylum, Lou for all his faults would never allow that to happen. Stop being friends with the players Dubas and be a boss because at the end of the day their lack of results will cost you your job.
Furthermore they didn’t like the previous coach and got him fired. Sheldon was their pick and has been a decent coach given the team he has to throw out night in and night out. The high end players deserve to be called out because there is zero reason we should have lost that game to an AHL team. I get that the season is 82 games and it’s only 4 games in but points always matter.
Sad to see that the inmates run the asylum, Lou for all his faults would never allow that to happen. Stop being friends with the players Dubas and be a boss because at the end of the day their lack of results will cost you your job.
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Nhlpowerweek
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Seguin confused about whether Leafs stars actually got called out have you seen this? Dallas star player just tolla "the leafs stars god called out, or was it taken back really?"... They are all laughing at us and keefe.
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All 50 Coyotes fans were upset that Keefe slagged their team on twitter for not having elite players
Nhlpowerweek
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Keefe: I was 'managing the media' by walking back comments on Leafs' stars keefe continyes his explanations.
justashadowof
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To me this team always find a reason/excuse for not advancing till last playoffs. Whether it was Kadri getting suspended or injuries to Muz or JT….Last season was the first year where they just couldn’t find any excuses.
justashadowof
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I say this after watching the Leafs' stars in the past 6 playoffs: They would like to win but they don't need to win to fulfill something inside. I will say that a switch has been flipped in Matthews 2 years ago and he has looked like he really wants to win in the past 2 playoffs. The rest of the stars just seem like they'd enjoy winning but draw the line at risking health and possibly shortening their careers to make it happen.
That's the problem. A lot of nights they play like did the other night. Nobody is denying they have talent. It's the fact they have issues with outworking other teams and many nights fail to show up til late in the game.
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Trapper
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A fact that is missed by many. While it might be game 4 in terms of season, it’s game 328 for me in terms of the same bad habits, the same calling out, the same indifference, not starting on time, hanging new goalies out to dry, compete, work ethic, statement, etc.
When you are looking to see if the exact same core “gets it”, you aren’t looking at just 4 games.
Gary Nylund
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Goaltending maybe? I would also say that I'm not sure any excuses are needed for last season, it was the first time in ages that you could say that but yeah, I thought they played well and left it all out there.
I thought our stars all played very well against TB. M&M,Tavares, Nylander, Rielly, all of them.
At the end of the season they usually end up being just fine. Some off nights but overall, one of the top teams. My only complaint (and it's a biggie) is the way they just folded in game 7 4 years in a row. That's 4 years that we'll never get back and 4 years, that's a good chunk of a career and to waste all those years is hard as f*** to swallow. They did much better last spring though so we'll see what happens this time around.
Well. I would not pin goaltending as the reason they lost last playoffs nor depth scoring.
Campbell was as good if not at times better than Vas.
TB depths scored more but their depth were better than ours.
Our top guys played well but they needed to do more, a goal or two in Game 6 and 7 would probably be the difference between winning and losing the round.
