Marner haters right now

[Racer88]

When's the last time Marner has beaten a goalie clean with a shot? How has this dude not improved his shot at all throughout his NHL career? According to him though there's nothing to really work on.

Meanwhile you have multiple Hart and art ross winner mcdavid focusing on specific skills to get better at each off season. Never hear anything about what Mitch worked on. If mcdavid can find stuff to improve on during the off season, so can you Mitch.

I guess some people though Marner was joking when he said that he would do nothing different in the off season to prepare for the next season

 

[centipede2233]

If campbell isn’t letting in one goal or less and the core 4 are not scoring at least 2 goals,, they lose. It’s why I thought the 10 of 11 streak was a bit fools gold. Could this team as constructed have stretches of success? Yes. But I don’t think it is sustainable.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Makes no sense how marner is now yet again playing half wall on the pp. would I like him to all of a sudden develop a deadly shot? Sure, but it’s not happening.

this guys flops on his role as setup man and all of a sudden he’s loading up for one timers on the power play and that’s supposed to be a positive? He’s never going to be the trigger man, if he can’t be a setup guy on the power play then he might as well not be out there.

Rielly isn't much of a threat for a point shot as it is, so you can cheat a bit with Matthews, 88 and JT on the PP.

Marner on PP2 might work out better for everyone.

 

[KapG]

Rielly isn't much of a threat for a point shot as it is, so you can cheat a bit with Matthews, 88 and JT on the PP.

Marner on PP2 might work out better for everyone.

Switch Reilly with Sandin too. The younger guy is far more creative offensively and seemingly more willing to shoot.

 

[ToneDog]

Rielly isn't much of a threat for a point shot as it is, so you can cheat a bit with Matthews, 88 and JT on the PP.

Marner on PP2 might work out better for everyone.

Ritchie is all but useless but I'd put him on PP1 in place of Marner and tell him to plant his arse in front of the net and screen the goalie. Last I heard, ugly goals count as much as Picassos.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Rielly isn't much of a threat for a point shot as it is, so you can cheat a bit with Matthews, 88 and JT on the PP.

Marner on PP2 might work out better for everyone.

Why he's stapled to the #1 PP is beyond me. He'll pout?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Why he's stapled to the #1 PP is beyond me.

It's not complicated - because he's an excellent, extremely talented PP player.

 

[Aashir]

It's not complicated - because he's an excellent, extremely talented PP player.

With 0 goals in said situation in over 90 games

 

[ACC1224]

With 0 goals in said situation in over 90 games

IMO as long as the PP is successful it doesn't matter who scores the goals.

 

[Dekes For Days]

With 0 goals in said situation in over 90 games

Yes, because you can be an excellent PP player without being an excellent PP goal scorer over some arbitrary period.

 

[ShaneFalco]

It's not complicated - because he's an excellent, extremely talented PP player.

Who hasn't scored in over a year and is totally predictable but I don't know why I'm even replying

 

[ShaneFalco]

IMO as long as the PP is successful it doesn't matter who scores the goals.

No but if someone just doesn't score ever why not put in someone who will and at the very least is a shot threat

 

[Gary Nylund]

That was a fantactic play in the 1st period when Marner swooped in and ... hit the crossbar. An inch away from a highlight reel goal, FML.

 

[Clark4Ever]

He's as snake bitten as a player can be. He should have had at least 2 goals last night.

 

[ACC1224]

No but if someone just doesn't score ever why not put in someone who will and at the very least is a shot threat

More than likely end up causing the team to score even less. It’s not who but how many.

 

[Aashir]

Yes, because you can be an excellent PP player without being an excellent PP goal scorer over some arbitrary period.

Well A powerplay goal would be nice.

I just don’t get how you can’t score on the powerplay at all and still be labelled an excellent pp player. He can only at best do 50% of his job on the pp. It’s like saying a player is elite 5 v 5 but they lack one of the three key elements to do so, goal scoring, playmaking and play driving. If you can’t do all 3, then you aren’t truly elite, just very good. Same goes for the pp, if you can’t score and pass, you aren’t elite, you aren’t apart of the 1% of elite players. Mcdavid kucherov and draisaitl are examples of elite/excellent powerplay players

 

[Trapper]

IMO as long as the PP is successful it doesn't matter who scores the goals.

Agree to a point. In a salary cap world you have to spend wisely distributed across the board. Just as you don’t want to pay Hyman the extra dollars, you also want to avoid paying big dollars for no goal scoring. Marner at Aho money fine, at 11, not unless you are a 35-40 goal scorer yourself.

 

[ACC1224]

Agree to a point. In a salary cap world you have to spend wisely distributed across the board. Just as you don’t want to pay Hyman the extra dollars, you also want to avoid paying big dollars for no goal scoring. Marner at Aho money fine, at 11, not unless you are a 35-40 goal scorer yourself.

For sure he needs to score more. The dollars is Dubas fault, IMO.

 

[Trapper]

For sure he needs to score more. The dollars is Dubas fault, IMO.

Absolutely it is. It’s the job of a good GM to not only retain the talent but retain it within a structure that makes sense to the greater good. We can and we will reeks of inexperience to prove a point to the masses when the only point is to ice a complete team from top to bottom. Combined 4 million less between Marner and JT allows you another 4 million dollar player who can probably score 25 goals between 5 on 5 and PP.

 

[Notsince67]

When's the last time Marner has beaten a goalie clean with a shot? How has this dude not improved his shot at all throughout his NHL career? According to him though there's nothing to really work on.

Meanwhile you have multiple Hart and art ross winner mcdavid focusing on specific skills to get better at each off season. Never hear anything about what Mitch worked on. If mcdavid can find stuff to improve on during the off season, so can you Mitch.

Marners problem he doesnt have a Marner to set him up like Nylander had last night when he hit the post twice

 

[Gary Nylund]

Marners problem he doesnt have a Marner to set him up like Nylander had last night when he hit the post twice

So when Marner hit the post last night, it was because Marner didn't set him up?

 

[Antropovsky]

So when Marner hit the post last night, it was because Marner didn't set him up?

Or the countless times Marner was set up by a teammate in a great scoring area only for him to try to deke it in the net or try to pass the puck?

11 million should be given to a player who is a franchise player with an entire tool box of elite options... not a small playmaker, with zero tenacity, with average wheels, no shot and needs to shotgun a top 5 goalscorer/point producer on his line to compliment him.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

IMO as long as the PP is successful it doesn't matter who scores the goals.

Aside from the stretch we're on now, it was pretty unsuccessful for most of last year + playoffs

 

[ACC1224]

Aside from the stretch we're on now, it was pretty unsuccessful for most of last year + playoffs

Present and future is all that matters, past is irrelevant

 

[Antropovsky]

Agree to a point. In a salary cap world you have to spend wisely distributed across the board. Just as you don’t want to pay Hyman the extra dollars, you also want to avoid paying big dollars for no goal scoring. Marner at Aho money fine, at 11, not unless you are a 35-40 goal scorer yourself.

Except Aho is a 35-40 goal scorer.... making 8.45 million (offersheet even!). Not to mention Aho doesnt have a 40-50 goal scorer flanking him and he plays on a team that focuses on team defense scoring something like 30 goals less than Toronto and allowing like 40 goals less total. Imagine the production Aho would have in Marners spot the last few years!