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Stephen said:
Not losing sight of the big picture and the ultimate goal but when the team is winning 10 of 11 you kind of have to enjoy it right? It’s not that they’ve redeemed their playoff issues but at least aren’t slipping from their regular season poll position.
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I'm enjoying it myself but I'll stop short of telling other people what to do. But if the subject of discussion is Marner in the context of team success, the current winning streak doesn't change the fact that in the playoffs, we've been failing miserably. Or am I supposed to pretend that this isn't true?
 
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ACC1224 said:
It seems a bit of an 'eeyore' attitude to continually lament about the past when there is nothing in the present you can do to change it.
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There's the good and there's the bad, that's just life. I enjoy the good but also acknowledge the bad, I do this for all aspects of life and frankly, it seems childish to me to pretend that the bad things never happened. It also seems a bit "snowflaky" to me to expect people to pretend the past doesn't exist. If you're so brittle that you can't handle the truth, maybe stay away from this place for a while as it's just not realistic for the entire fan base to develop collective amnesia overnight.
 
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Stephen said:
Not losing sight of the big picture and the ultimate goal but when the team is winning 10 of 11 you kind of have to enjoy it right? It’s not that they’ve redeemed their playoff issues but at least aren’t slipping from their regular season poll position.
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I think most people are enjoying it, but I would hope everyone also knows how little it actually means, especially when you look at how easy the schedule has been so far.
 
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Gary Nylund said:
I'm enjoying it myself but I'll stop short of telling other people what to do. But if the subject of discussion is Marner in the context of team success, the current winning streak doesn't change the fact that in the playoffs, we've been failing miserably. Or am I supposed to pretend that this isn't true?
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I think it's perfectly fair considering Marner has 1 goal in the last 3 playoffs series. With the price he demanded, fans are allowed to want more than regular season success.
 
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Jmo89 said:
I think it's perfectly fair considering Marner has 1 goal in the last 3 playoffs series. With the price he demanded, fans are allowed to want more than regular season success.
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How can he deliver that today?
 
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ACC1224 said:
It seems a bit of an 'eeyore' attitude to continually lament about the past when there is nothing in the present you can do to change it.
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Gary Nylund said:
I'm enjoying it myself but I'll stop short of telling other people what to do. But if the subject of discussion is Marner in the context of team success, the current winning streak doesn't change the fact that in the playoffs, we've been failing miserably. Or am I supposed to pretend that this isn't true?
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Couldn't possibly be the other team/goalie being better, def the leafs failing.

It's almost like the leafs don't ever play against anyone, ever! They are playing against themselves and when they lose it's because they failed miserably.

The good part about this excuse is you can use it in your everyday life.

Billy wasn't better than me, I had an off day, is all, Billy is trash if I didn't suck today I would have won!
 
Great offensive shift for Matthews and Marner there after Marner picked off the Penguin pass in Leafs but 2x Marner shot attempts isn’t ideal. Matthews needs to also try the Stamkos fade away into open space before calling for the pass back.
 
Gary Nylund said:
There's the good and there's the bad, that's just life. I enjoy the good but also acknowledge the bad, I do this for all aspects of life and frankly, it seems childish to me to pretend that the bad things never happened. It also seems a bit "snowflaky" to me to expect people to pretend the past doesn't exist. If you're so brittle that you can't handle the truth, maybe stay away from this place for a while as it's just not realistic for the entire fan base to develop collective amnesia overnight.
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agreed, its a message board, designed for the purpose of discussion. if you dont want to discuss the topic of Marner, the good and the bad, then find a different thread. There are plenty of threads i dont go into being of a lack of interest.

Maybe the discussion could fade a out a bit if the obsessed Marner supporters stopped screaming "leave britney...i mean Marner alone".... they wont acknowlege his shortcomings and for obvious reasons dont come up with good rhetoric to support their belief that Marner is being picked on. i think anyone who is upset with his play would love some good evidence based reasoning on why he is actually worth his contract. bring it on... PLEASE!
 
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Hate to be that guy but im running out of excuses for him

he created chances, but his finishing makes kampf blush
His production is pretty bad
Like 5 goals on the season
A season+ of games played with no pp goal
it’s not been good

The big 4 in general were not good that game and for a few games now

Matthews is playing like a soft primodana, he can’t shoot, hit, or pass.

Tavares had his worst game today and has been quietly invisible since Marner left his line

nylander has been pure invisible outside the pp


Need them all to step it up
 
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I liked Marner's game tonight against Pittsburgh a lot more than Matthews. Matthews just looks like he's halfway between a gear shift from trying to be a pure finesse guy and a playmaker first and foremost, looking off shooting opportunities, making extra passes and trying to execute fussy plays. Marner was buzzing around and had a few scoring chances but he doesn't have the shot arsenal to finish some of those looks for himself.
 
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Stephen said:
I liked Marner's game tonight against Pittsburgh a lot more than Matthews. Matthews just looks like he's halfway between a gear shift from trying to be a pure finesse guy and a playmaker first and foremost, looking off shooting opportunities, making extra passes and trying to execute fussy plays. Marner was buzzing around and had a few scoring chances but he doesn't have the shot arsenal to finish some of those looks for himself.
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him flying all over the ice and "being creative" means shit all on the scoreboard. another failure performance.
 
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I don't want to shit on Marner too much, way too much of an overreaction to a loss. They won 10 of the last 11 right? Limit your bad stretches and string together more winning stretches.

In terms of Marner specifically, I don't think breaking up JT/Marner was smart.

I'd even go a step further and take him away from the top PP unit, give him full reign of PP2.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
I don't want to shit on Marner too much, way too much of an overreaction to a loss. They won 10 of the last 11 right? Limit your bad stretches and string together more winning stretches.

In terms of Marner specifically, I don't think breaking up JT/Marner was smart.

I'd even go a step further and take him away from the top PP unit, give him full reign of PP2.
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Makes no sense how marner is now yet again playing half wall on the pp. would I like him to all of a sudden develop a deadly shot? Sure, but it’s not happening.

this guys flops on his role as setup man and all of a sudden he’s loading up for one timers on the power play and that’s supposed to be a positive? He’s never going to be the trigger man, if he can’t be a setup guy on the power play then he might as well not be out there.
 
When's the last time Marner has beaten a goalie clean with a shot? How has this dude not improved his shot at all throughout his NHL career? According to him though there's nothing to really work on.

Meanwhile you have multiple Hart and art ross winner mcdavid focusing on specific skills to get better at each off season. Never hear anything about what Mitch worked on. If mcdavid can find stuff to improve on during the off season, so can you Mitch.
 
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Marner was actually playing better when Keefe moved him off the Matthews line line but now he is just back to throwing the puck to Matthews no matter what the situation.
Matthews looks disinterested and awful right now the play just dies but Keefe is to dumb to see it.
I guess that’s what happens when two players are running the team
 
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