Marner haters right now

[Gabriel426]

Agreed! I can't figure out how the NFL got it implemented

Weakest union is sport

Pretty much what ACC1224 said, very weak union and players also no alternative for players.
I know KHL and other Euro leagues don’t pay as much as NHL but at the very least, they still pay pretty good wages comparing to average people. While there is just no other football league, I know some will say what about CFL and XFL….but those two are not comparable.

 

[ottomaddox]

Marner Haters Unite!

 

[Zybalto]

Damn, havnt read the thread for a bit but a couple of you guys really pulled one out here, I'm almost convinced.

Thought you guys were flailing about looking foolish but just when I started to lose hope, BAM......I had no idea that using Sparks as the catalyst in an "argument from authority" on what it takes to win in the NHL would be so effective.

I always thought he was just a tool that stuck his foot in his mouth and never got another shot again but damn, he was really talking about Marner this whole time and he was obviously right. Please take this and run with it. A winning strategy if I've ever seen one.

 

[Menzinger]

I do wish however that every sport would adapt the NFL agreement. You can guarantee a contract but for the most part you only get a small portion,, and have to earn the rest and can be released anytime

In an ideal world I'd like that to happen in the NHL BUT as a compromise the league shortens ELC to 2 years and RFA to 2 years. So guys could hit ufa by like 22 or 23.

We'd see so much more player movement. Will never happen though.

 

[Gabriel426]

In an ideal world I'd like that to happen in the NHL BUT as a compromise the league shortens ELC to 2 years and RFA to 2 years. So guys could hit ufa by like 22 or 23.

We'd see so much more player movement. Will never happen though.

If that’s the case, owners won’t go for it.
I think overall, as much as I hate the cap, it saves the league.
What I like to see is some sort of luxury tax or teams can acquire cap space and draft picks for money, as long as the team paying them are in the black.

 

[AllDay28]

the old story.

the known vs the unknown.

traditionalists would say you bet on the known.

But I've learned millennials think they know better than all prior generations, so I would suspect many would agree with paying for a "hope" vs a "known".

as for my thoughts, I absolutely hate minny mouse marner, but can learn to love NHL hockey player Mitch Marner. I guess it's up to him to determine which path he takes.

millennials definitely know more than previous generations. access to information is at an all time high.. its evolution... you think you know more than people in 1850? probably right?

hot tip: be willing to adapt in life. it's not that hard to change your opinion.... ....

 

[Aashir]

Had a great game. Shocked he didn’t pick up a point or two, but darth vladar had the force in his side so it’s not entirely his fault

 

[Bomber0104]

millennials definitely know more than previous generations. access to information is at an all time high.. its evolution... you think you know more than people in 1850? probably right?

hot tip: be willing to adapt in life. it's not that hard to change your opinion.... ....

So deep..

Like wow.

 

[nsleaf]

the old story.

the known vs the unknown.

traditionalists would say you bet on the known.

But I've learned millennials think they know better than all prior generations, so I would suspect many would agree with paying for a "hope" vs a "known".

as for my thoughts, I absolutely hate minny mouse marner, but can learn to love NHL hockey player Mitch Marner. I guess it's up to him to determine which path he takes.

Pretty strange to hate someone you don't personally know or have even met.

 

[Notsince67]

millennials definitely know more than previous generations. access to information is at an all time high.. its evolution... you think you know more than people in 1850? probably right?

hot tip: be willing to adapt in life. it's not that hard to change your opinion.... ....

Information isnt knowledge unless it is true or useful.
I'd say that millenials have the potential to know more and some do but a pretty coddled generation that orders its food clothes and mates via an app creates a faux impression of any real useful application of competence.

 

[Dreakmur]

millennials definitely know more than previous generations. access to information is at an all time high.. its evolution... you think you know more than people in 1850? probably right?

hot tip: be willing to adapt in life. it's not that hard to change your opinion.... ....

Sure, there’s a lot of great information available, but there’s also a lot of bad information, and even some fake information. If you can’t sort through the bull crap, you’re actually less informed.

Big difference between having access to information and being able to absorb it and understand it.

hot tip: change is only good if it’s for the better

 

[Trapper]

millennials definitely know more than previous generations. access to information is at an all time high.. its evolution... you think you know more than people in 1850? probably right?

hot tip: be willing to adapt in life. it's not that hard to change your opinion.... ....

Apparently it is.
I mean you are asking us to expect a different result right? Doing the same thing essentially?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Apparently it is.
I mean you are asking us to expect a different result right? Doing the same thing essentially?

It’s different.

We lost Hyman, and have replacements not filling his role.

Hyman was a great left winger on this team.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Next time folks are fretting over "bad" contracts, imagine this:

Gallagher: 6 yrs/$6.5M
Anderson: 6 yrs/$5.5M
Dvorak: 4 yrs/$4.45M
Toffoli: 3yrs/$4.25M
Armia: 4yrs/$3.4M
Petry: 4yrs/$6.25M
Savard: 4yrs/$3.5M
Price: 5yrs/$10.5M
Joel E: 3yrs/$3.5M
Weber 5 yrs/$7.8M

 

[zeke]

Next time folks are fretting over "bad" contracts, imagine this:

Gallagher: 6 yrs/$6.5M
Anderson: 6 yrs/$5.5M
Dvorak: 4 yrs/$4.45M
Toffoli: 3yrs/$4.25M
Armia: 4yrs/$3.4M
Petry: 4yrs/$6.25M
Savard: 4yrs/$3.5M
Price: 5yrs/$10.5M
Joel E: 3yrs/$3.5M
Weber 5 yrs/$7.8M

Yep that's one genius super-depth GM of the year candidate that's going to be icing a bottom feeder while being way over the cap.

And the other genius super-depth GM of the year candidate, Lou, is off to a pretty scary start as well.

 

[ACC1224]

Next time folks are fretting over "bad" contracts, imagine this:

Gallagher: 6 yrs/$6.5M
Anderson: 6 yrs/$5.5M
Dvorak: 4 yrs/$4.45M
Toffoli: 3yrs/$4.25M
Armia: 4yrs/$3.4M
Petry: 4yrs/$6.25M
Savard: 4yrs/$3.5M
Price: 5yrs/$10.5M
Joel E: 3yrs/$3.5M
Weber 5 yrs/$7.8M

As a Leaf fan I'm not really concerned about other teams situation. It doesn't make the Leafs cap bind any better.

 

[Trapper]

As a Leaf fan I'm not really concerned about other teams situation. It doesn't make the Leafs cap bind any better.

Yeah sorta like 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

Oh no, Tampa is in cap trouble. Meanwhile 2 Cups later…

 

[zeke]

As a Leaf fan I'm not really concerned about other teams situation. It doesn't make the Leafs cap bind any better.

which cap bind?

 

[francis246]

Next time folks are fretting over "bad" contracts, imagine this:

Gallagher: 6 yrs/$6.5M
Anderson: 6 yrs/$5.5M
Dvorak: 4 yrs/$4.45M
Toffoli: 3yrs/$4.25M
Armia: 4yrs/$3.4M
Petry: 4yrs/$6.25M
Savard: 4yrs/$3.5M
Price: 5yrs/$10.5M
Joel E: 3yrs/$3.5M
Weber 5 yrs/$7.8M

right! Those contracts are ugly, even at below market value. Only ones I’d take are Dvorak and Toffoli

 

[Gabriel426]

right! Those contracts are ugly, even at below market value. Only ones I’d take are Dvorak and Toffoli

Toffoli is someone the Leafs should consider trading. He would look good in our top 6.

 

[zeke]

right! Those contracts are ugly, even at below market value. Only ones I’d take are Dvorak and Toffoli

dvorak has an impressive 5pts and -17 in 17gms so far.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Yep that's one genius super-depth GM of the year candidate that's going to be icing a bottom feeder while being way over the cap.

And the other genius super-depth GM of the year candidate, Lou, is off to a pretty scary start as well.

They've gone farther than the Leafs have and don't have $40 mill tied up in players who don't show up in the playoffs. Well Nylander did.....

 

[francis246]

Toffoli is someone the Leafs should consider trading. He would look good in our top 6.

Holl + mikheyev type deal no? And I agree he’s a Scarborough kid too. I wanted us to get him at the deadline a few years back

 

[AvroArrow]

Next time folks are fretting over "bad" contracts, imagine this:

Gallagher: 6 yrs/$6.5M
Anderson: 6 yrs/$5.5M
Dvorak: 4 yrs/$4.45M
Toffoli: 3yrs/$4.25M
Armia: 4yrs/$3.4M
Petry: 4yrs/$6.25M
Savard: 4yrs/$3.5M
Price: 5yrs/$10.5M
Joel E: 3yrs/$3.5M
Weber 5 yrs/$7.8M

Yet somehow we couldn't get past this team with 10 bad contracts.

Also Toffoli is totally worth what he's making, as is Price when he's healthy.

 

[francis246]

I do wish however that every sport would adapt the NFL agreement. You can guarantee a contract but for the most part you only get a small portion,, and have to earn the rest and can be released anytime

why would you want that? As fans we should all be pro athlete. f*** the greedy owners.