Salary Cap: Marner Deal Discussion

[diceman934]

It will get done before the draft. It should not be all that hard to get signed based on our internal cap structure. 10.516 x 5 years or 11.16 x 6 years

 

[LeafsNation75]

What is that? Some type of scooter?

He's referring to former Toronto Raptor player Andrea Bargnani, who was the 1st overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft. Eventually he became a disappointment and was signed to a horrible contract. However Masai Ujiri traded him to the New York Knicks and got a 1st round pick in return.

Andrea Bargnani Stats | Basketball-Reference.com

 

[Buds17]

This could get done relatively quickly (not suggesting imminently, just comfortably before July) as long as there is enough of a commitment from both sides to getting it done. Would be great due to the ripple effect it can have on other off season contracts and matters for the team.

 

[deletethis]

It would be a really big deal if the Marner deal is done before the draft. It sets the team's budget for 2019-20 and allows management the time to pursue the moves necessary to make the salary cap for the season.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Everything about this smells of him getting $10-11/season which is ridiculous. This is a giant mistake. I love him, he's just not worth that and they're under no pressure to pay him that.

 

[hamzarocks]

It will get done before the draft. It should not be all that hard to get signed based on our internal cap structure. 10.516 x 5 years or 11.16 x 6 years

Those are atrocious deals for the leafs. They do follow the trend put in place by Matthews deal which was short in term and about 2-2.5 million overpaid. Marner shouldn't be touching 10.5 million on a 8 year deal. He isnt currently a top 3 winger in the world and it just doesnt make sense for him to get a better contract than kane, kucherov, and ovy(outdated so not as strong). Leafs must go for a 6 year deal if they cant get term and end it at 10 million dollars. That is still insane money for only 6 years.

 

[LeafsNation75]

This could get done relatively quickly (not suggesting imminently, just comfortably before July) as long as there is enough of a commitment from both sides to getting it done. Would be great due to the ripple effect it can have on other off season contracts and matters for the team.

It would also be great to have it done before other players like Point, Rantanen, Tkachuk, Laine, Connor and Trouba, get their new contracts and can not set the market for Marner.

 

[MJ65]

I hope it's under $10M and that's a wishful thinking I guess - every penny does count

 

[PromisedLand]

I think it’s fairly obvious something will get done. Dubas did a decent amount of our minor extensions in season, and most our remaining signings will be dictated by the Marner contract.

So essentially, there’s not much for Dubas to work on but the extension.

The fact that Shanny was there is interesting. Could mean something is fairly close

Shanny was there to tell marner to lower the contract AAV and he will get more commercials lined up for him that will outweight the AAV initially asked

 

[LeafsNation75]

I hope it's under $10M and that's a wishful thinking I guess - every penny does count

No matter what his contract will be, I'm sure it will look even better once Marleau's contract is off their salary cap.

 

[Cor]

I assume you mean Patrick Marleau?

Oh my friend, “Bargnani” is no one man. Bargnani is symbolic in nature.

Every team wishes wash themselves of their Bargnani

 

[PromisedLand]

I hope it's under $10M and that's a wishful thinking I guess - every penny does count

I wonder if they go the bridge route at 9M x 3 yrs???

 

[Kiwi]

If they could get it done by the end of the month I'd be ecstatic.

They almost have to

If you don't know Marner's situation it's going to be bloody tough to sort out Kapanen, Johnsson and the defense

Our cap situation is razor thin, even a mill could make a huge difference

 

[Kiwi]

I wonder if they go the bridge route at 9M x 3 yrs???

Wasn't that the Matthews bridge number?

I'd have thought it would would be half a mill to a mill less than that on a bridge for Marner

We'd still be miles better off going longer term though

 

[Bomber0104]

Those are atrocious deals for the leafs. They do follow the trend put in place by Matthews deal which was short in term and about 2-2.5 million overpaid. Marner shouldn't be touching 10.5 million on a 8 year deal. He isnt currently a top 3 winger in the world and it just doesnt make sense for him to get a better contract than kane, kucherov, and ovy(outdated so not as strong). Leafs must go for a 6 year deal if they cant get term and end it at 10 million dollars. That is still insane money for only 6 years.

The problem when you sign a player to an atrocious contract like Dubas did with Matthews is that all the other agents are going to expect an equally or worst case scenario, a slightly less atrocious contract.

Inexperience has cost this organization dearly.

I wonder how much Dubas thinks his "advanced" stats can overcome his terrible cap spending?

 

[MJ65]

I wonder if they go the bridge route at 9M x 3 yrs???

I would rather sign him long term

 

[Morgs]

It will get done before the draft. It should not be all that hard to get signed based on our internal cap structure. 10.516 x 5 years or 11.16 x 6 years

lol

 

[LeafsNation75]

Oh my friend, “Bargnani” is no one man. Bargnani is symbolic in nature.

Every team wishes wash themselves of their Bargnani

Whenever I think of Bargnani I remember Tim & Sid celebrating when he was officially traded.

 

[Bomber0104]

lol

Nothing to "lol" about there young one.

That's what's going to happen.

 

[Bomber0104]

I would say the fact Shanny was in on a contract negotiation isn't "nothing to see here".

You're damn right.

It would appear as though someone much higher up than Dubas thinks he needs babysitting.

 

[Fogelhund]

It would also be great to have it done before other players like Point, Rantanen, Tkachuk, Laine, Connor and Trouba, get their new contracts and can not set the market for Marner.

You could make the argument that perhaps letting the others set the market, helps us. I don't see those guys getting $10-11...

 

[Kiwi]

It will get done before the draft. It should not be all that hard to get signed based on our internal cap structure. 10.516 x 5 years or 11.16 x 6 years

Jesus, another **** house contract for me to complain about

Oh well, that would fit right in with the other **** house deals we've signed

 

[Morgs]

Nothing to "lol" about there young one.

That's what's going to happen.

It amazes me the sheer amount of Leaf fans that want to drastically overpay him.

I can't wait for the "selfish" and "all about the money" takes that he gets - especially seeing how he has over 30 companies that sponsor him.

 

[LeafsNation75]

You could make the argument that perhaps letting the others set the market, helps us. I don't see those guys getting $10-11...

That's also true. However if given the preference I like to see Marner signed first before the other potential RFA's.

 

[Bomber0104]

It amazes me the sheer amount of Leaf fans that want to drastically overpay him.

I can't wait for the "selfish" and "all about the money" takes that he gets - especially seeing how he has over 30 companies that sponsor him.

You mistake me for someone who celebrates idiotic management. I'm just telling you what's going to happen, not what I actually want.

But unfortunately that ship has long sailed. This upcoming Marner contract was decided with the last three: Matthews, Nylander, and Tavares

I'd hardly blame Mitch and his agent for claiming what's clearly up for grabs based on precedent.

What you should do is blame the rookie GM who's already allowed three players to ride the gravy train.