Tribute Marner Appreciation Thread

[ToneDog]

I think that’s dependent on who he plays with. I think with Tavares he could probably get 1.5 PPG. I have no idea why after that first season together they moved away from Marner and Tavares as a duo. It works.

Perhaps for the first half of the season and playing with Matthews. I can't see MM putting up 123 points in 82 games, especially playing with Tavares.

 

[francis246]

Perhaps for the first half of the season and playing with Matthews. I can't see MM can putting up 123 points in 82 games, especially playing with Tavares.

It depends on if the Center he’s with goes dry. In both the last two seasons Matthews completely dries up and then the leafs also start resting Marner, playing him less. Or keefe starts messing up the lines 3 weeks before the playoffs. IMO I think they just need to let the guys go this year and stop messing about. Let the guys go

 

[ToneDog]

It depends on if the Center he’s with goes dry. In both the last two seasons Matthews completely dries up and then the leafs also start resting Marner, playing him less. Or keefe starts messing up the lines 3 weeks before the playoffs. IMO I think they just need to let the guys go this year and stop messing about. Let the guys go

Only way I see Mitch scoring over 120 points is if he plays with Matty and Matty scores 50-60+ goals and their PP scores at 25+%. Sure it is possible, but IMO odds are not in his favour. Would be fun to watch this team if Matty and Mitch can put close to those numbers and JT and Wille can get to 40+ goals and 45+ assists.

 

[francis246]

Only way I see Mitch scoring over 120 points is if he plays with Matty and Matty scores 50-60+ goals and their PP scores at 25+%. Sure it is possible, but IMO odds are not in his favour. Would be fun to watch this team if Matty and Mitch can put close to those numbers and JT and Wille can get to 40+ goals and 45+ assists.

I personally want to see

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Nylander
Domi - Tavares - Marner

As our top six bc I think that’s our best chance to win with Matthews Marner split

 

[Gabriel426]

Honestly, does it matters if MM scores 150pts or AM scores 80 goals in the regular season, if they end up falling flat in the playoffs again?

They can have just 90pts and 40goals in the regular season and manage to win the Cup, that’s what matters.

Hate to admit it but the Leafs is really at a point a where it is Cup or Bust.

Not saying I won’t be happy if MM, AM and others light it up in the regular season but at the end of the day, it is Cup or Bust.

 

[francis246]

Honestly, does it matters if MM scores 150pts or AM scores 80 goals in the regular season, if they end up falling flat in the playoffs again?

They can have just 90pts and 40goals in the regular season and manage to win the Cup, that’s what matters.

Hate to admit it but the Leafs is really at a point a where it is Cup or Bust.

Not saying I won’t be happy if MM, AM and others light it up in the regular season but at the end of the day, it is Cup or Bust.

Personally I know I’m probably alone in this stance but the only thing that’s going to win the leafs a cup at this point is goaltending IMO. It would be lovely to have a hot goalie for once and our starting goalie not get injured. We need stability in that position IMO.

 

[al secord]

Congrats to mitch and steph for getting the band back together that's 7 years all together.

Ya but did they have dinner together?

 

[ToneDog]

Honestly, does it matters if MM scores 150pts or AM scores 80 goals in the regular season, if they end up falling flat in the playoffs again?

They can have just 90pts and 40goals in the regular season and manage to win the Cup, that’s what matters.

Hate to admit it but the Leafs is really at a point a where it is Cup or Bust.

Not saying I won’t be happy if MM, AM and others light it up in the regular season but at the end of the day, it is Cup or Bust.

As much as the regular season is too long, it would be exciting following him putting up those kind of numbers. Although, it would be bittersweet if he and the team shit the bed in the playoffs again.

 

[Notsince67]

Only way I see Mitch scoring over 120 points is if he plays with Matty and Matty scores 50-60+ goals and their PP scores at 25+%. Sure it is possible, but IMO odds are not in his favour. Would be fun to watch this team if Matty and Mitch can put close to those numbers and JT and Wille can get to 40+ goals and 45+ assists.

Bertuzzi is more of a threat than Bunting ever was. An additional nasty option could open up that line

 

[hamzarocks]

I think that’s dependent on who he plays with. I think with Tavares he could probably get 1.5 PPG. I have no idea why after that first season together they moved away from Marner and Tavares as a duo. It works.

Marner had his highest PPG period with Matthews not Tavares

With Tavares he struggled for periods last year

Tavares is just a PP player at this point. Marner will have 50-60 EVS pts if he plays 82 games with JT and a career worst sub 90 pt season (since he broke out)

 

[notDatsyuk]

Marner had his highest PPG period with Matthews not Tavares

With Tavares he struggled for periods last year

Tavares is just a PP player at this point. Marner will have 50-60 EVS pts if he plays 82 games with JT and a career worst sub 90 pt season (since he broke out)

I think it's pretty obvious that anyone would have better production playing with Matthews rather than Tavares.

Looking at it the other way, Tavares seems to produce better with Nylander. The combination of that and Matty wanting to play with Mitch pretty much explains the pairings. Hopefully with Dubas gone (and if we're lucky, Keefe soon) we'll see some changes. Dropping JT to 3C should free up whichever of Mitch or Willy isn't playing with Matty.

 

[Notsince67]

I think it's pretty obvious that anyone would have better production playing with Matthews rather than Tavares.

Looking at it the other way, Tavares seems to produce better with Nylander. The combination of that and Matty wanting to play with Mitch pretty much explains the pairings. Hopefully with Dubas gone (and if we're lucky, Keefe soon) we'll see some changes. Dropping JT to 3C should free up whichever of Mitch or Willy isn't playing with Matty.

What I find stupid is the constant line juggling of Keefe. Willie played more with Matthews 5x5 than Marner did in the regular season and then the playoffs hit and that shifted. Make a decision and let the lines figure it out. If chemistry doesn't work with a player, demote them. This includes Tavares. Stop shifting your most productive players around all the time and having them change their tempo and strategy with new linemates.

 

[Gabriel426]

Personally I know I’m probably alone in this stance but the only thing that’s going to win the leafs a cup at this point is goaltending IMO. It would be lovely to have a hot goalie for once and our starting goalie not get injured. We need stability in that position IMO.

I do think our top three paid players need to score more than ONE goal in a series, maybe I am old fashion or something.

 

[Antropovsky]

I think it's pretty obvious that anyone would have better production playing with Matthews rather than Tavares.

Looking at it the other way, Tavares seems to produce better with Nylander. The combination of that and Matty wanting to play with Mitch pretty much explains the pairings. Hopefully with Dubas gone (and if we're lucky, Keefe soon) we'll see some changes. Dropping JT to 3C should free up whichever of Mitch or Willy isn't playing with Matty.

The rumor that Matthews and Marner wanted to play together was back in Babs days, and they had yet to play together. Matthews and Marner have played together now for 4 years. I haven't heard any rumor about Matthews still wanting to play with Marner more than Nylander. Matthews stats were better this year with Nylander than they were with Marner. At the beginning of this year, Matthews and Marner were struggling to produce.

 

[ACC1224]

I do think our top three paid players need to score more than ONE goal in a series, maybe I am old fashion or something.

I don't think anyone thinks differently, it's been mention daily since the season ended.

 

[Gabriel426]

I don't think anyone thinks differently, it's been mention daily since the season ended.

Just hope the players get it too

 

[Gabriel426]

What I find stupid is the constant line juggling of Keefe. Willie played more with Matthews 5x5 than Marner did in the regular season and then the playoffs hit and that shifted. Make a decision and let the lines figure it out. If chemistry doesn't work with a player, demote them. This includes Tavares. Stop shifting your most productive players around all the time and having them change their tempo and strategy with new linemates.

Don’t really blame Keefe for juggling lines to get some of the top guys going in the regular season. But do find it annoying to see Keefe not juggling at all in the playoffs in hope of struggling players finding their ways.
Having said all that, he gambled and he lost. If he won the Cup, we would be saying he is a genius. Kind of like what we did when Nurse won after he played Box 1 in the finals

 

[ACC1224]

Just hope the players get it too

I'd bet anything they are aware that goals need to be scored. They've played the sport all their life.

 

[Gabriel426]

I'd bet anything they are aware that goals need to be scored. They've played the sport all their life.

Aware of something and actually putting the efforts and actually getting the results are completely different things.
Like in order to get success, you need to work harder than most but even if you are the hardest worker, you are still not guaranteed success due to other competitors.
At the end of the day, knowing is only the first step.

 

[Notsince67]

Just hope the players get it too

You think they are reading because u sure are torturing some of us

 

[Canadian Finn]

based on their current contracts, and their proposed future ones (at least from what I'm reading), I would suggest our players have already considered their careers won.

and that folks is the problem. (at least for those who think there is one...)

 

[notDatsyuk]

The rumor that Matthews and Marner wanted to play together was back in Babs days, and they had yet to play together. Matthews and Marner have played together now for 4 years. I haven't heard any rumor about Matthews still wanting to play with Marner more than Nylander. Matthews stats were better this year with Nylander than they were with Marner. At the beginning of this year, Matthews and Marner were struggling to produce.

So was it just Keefe (or Dubas) who wanted Matty/Mitch and JT/Willy?

Looking at the results of various line combinations at even strength last year:

Matty and Willy on together for 36 goals for and 15 against.
Matty and Mitch on together for 41 goals for and 23 against.

Willy and JT on together for 21 goals for and 27 against.
Willy without JT on for 42 goals for and 16 against.

Mitch and JT on together for 32 goals for and 17 against.

 

[alliuk12]

Marner APPRECIATION he sure has mine he improves the players that’s on his line he may screw up every now and then but don’t we all. If you don’t just tell me how perfect you are and why you’re not out on the ice in his place​

 

[Gabriel426]

You think they are reading because u sure are torturing some of us

I am 100% sure some medias, players even MGT read hockey forums, twitters and other social media.
Quite frankly, if they(players and MGts) need to read hockey forum to know or even get the idea that something is going right or wrong, the team is in trouble

 

[ACC1224]

I am 100% sure some medias, players even MGT read hockey forums, twitters and other social media.
Quite frankly, if they(players and MGts) need to read hockey forum to know or even get the idea that something is going right or wrong, the team is in trouble

Believe it or not but this place isn’t the arbiter of what’s right or wrong. In most cases it’s not even close to understanding what’s going on.