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Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread
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And one in ‘19!
Lotsa different players on the score sheet for the Marlies, Gogolev potted one too. Kallgren was big, that’s a lot of shots he faced, has his save % up to .923. I really like that Abramov is on the PK and third line. Helps his versatility down the line.
Anyone watch? How sloppy was the team d? Was Kallgren that good? How’d Kral look?
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I didn't watch but I was a big fan of Kral in pre-season. Maybe once Muzzin expires, Sandin takes the minutes/$ and Kral joins team.
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They only show home games. Idk if the recent games have been at home or the road though
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I wonder if Kallgren keeps up this level of play, if they let him get an NHL game in the next time the Leafs have a back-to-back.
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Abramov has been getting a defensive role to start the season with PK time.
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The Kasperi Kapanen treatment
He’s not much of a scorer. I don’t think his hands are there. I like his pking and work rate. Skating is pretty good too. Not a bad signing as he adds diversification to the pool. If he makes it, it’ll be as a bottom six pker.
Joseph Woll is a rarity in hockey these days. He’s a goaltender who has been developed by the Leafs | The Star
The path to the NHL is not the same for everyone. And it winds a bit more for goalies than for skaters. For goalies drafted by the Leafs, it often ends on the road to oblivion.
The Leafs really haven’t had much success drafting and developing goaltenders. James Reimer is the last goalie of any significance drafted and developed by the team. Before him, you have to go back to the 1990 draft and Félix Potvin to find a goalie the Leafs drafted and developed to prominence. They get credit for drafting Tuukka Rask in 2005, but they traded his rights to Boston within a year, before he ever came to North America.
Since Reimer was picked in 2006, the Leafs have drafted seven goalies who have played a total of 43 NHL games: 38 by Garret Sparks (seventh round, 2011), four by Antoine Bibeau (sixth round, 2013) and one by Woll. Grant Rollheiser (sixth round, 2008) got as high as the ECHL. Ian Scott (fourth round, 2017) remains a prospect, though one beset by injuries. Zachary Bouthillier (seventh round, 2018) was never signed and is playing in the ECHL. Artur Akhtyamov (fourth round, 2020) and Vyacheslav Peksa (sixth round, 2021) are prospects in Russia.
Part of the reason is that the Leafs have been impatient, pursuing established goalies via free agency or trades and blocking the opportunities for their prospects. It could also be they were unable to identify NHL-calibre goalies in the draft, or couldn’t develop goalies once they got them in their system.
The Leafs have been reluctant to spend draft capital on goalies. Woll was a third-rounder, the highest the Leafs have chosen a goalie since taking Rask in the first round in 2005. And the goaltending position has been unstable from the time Ed Belfour left. It stabilized under Frederik Andersen but, with Jack Campbell a pending free agent and Petr Mrázek struggling with a groin injury, there are big questions around the team’s goaltending situation.
One game is too small a sample size to judge whether Woll has what it takes to be an NHL goalie. But it may work out that he ends up as an example that the Leafs have changed their ways, which offers hope to Scott and other recent goalie picks.
Their goaltending department is vast compared to other teams, led by Leafs goalie coach Steve Briere, goaltending evaluator Jon Elkin in the organizational development department, and Marlies goalie coach Hannu Toivonen. And what they work on with goalies isn’t simply skills. It’s mental strength.
The path to the NHL is not the same for everyone. And it winds a bit more for goalies than for skaters. For goalies drafted by the Leafs, it often ends on the road to oblivion.
The Leafs really haven’t had much success drafting and developing goaltenders. James Reimer is the last goalie of any significance drafted and developed by the team. Before him, you have to go back to the 1990 draft and Félix Potvin to find a goalie the Leafs drafted and developed to prominence. They get credit for drafting Tuukka Rask in 2005, but they traded his rights to Boston within a year, before he ever came to North America.
Since Reimer was picked in 2006, the Leafs have drafted seven goalies who have played a total of 43 NHL games: 38 by Garret Sparks (seventh round, 2011), four by Antoine Bibeau (sixth round, 2013) and one by Woll. Grant Rollheiser (sixth round, 2008) got as high as the ECHL. Ian Scott (fourth round, 2017) remains a prospect, though one beset by injuries. Zachary Bouthillier (seventh round, 2018) was never signed and is playing in the ECHL. Artur Akhtyamov (fourth round, 2020) and Vyacheslav Peksa (sixth round, 2021) are prospects in Russia.
Part of the reason is that the Leafs have been impatient, pursuing established goalies via free agency or trades and blocking the opportunities for their prospects. It could also be they were unable to identify NHL-calibre goalies in the draft, or couldn’t develop goalies once they got them in their system.
The Leafs have been reluctant to spend draft capital on goalies. Woll was a third-rounder, the highest the Leafs have chosen a goalie since taking Rask in the first round in 2005. And the goaltending position has been unstable from the time Ed Belfour left. It stabilized under Frederik Andersen but, with Jack Campbell a pending free agent and Petr Mrázek struggling with a groin injury, there are big questions around the team’s goaltending situation.
One game is too small a sample size to judge whether Woll has what it takes to be an NHL goalie. But it may work out that he ends up as an example that the Leafs have changed their ways, which offers hope to Scott and other recent goalie picks.
Their goaltending department is vast compared to other teams, led by Leafs goalie coach Steve Briere, goaltending evaluator Jon Elkin in the organizational development department, and Marlies goalie coach Hannu Toivonen. And what they work on with goalies isn’t simply skills. It’s mental strength.
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I watched the Marlies game today. What a finish by SDA to end this one. I thought Abramov was the best player today.
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I like that the Marlies are winning a bit. Is it that the team was quite young and has taken a bit to get rolling and buy into the system? Or is this just a lucky streak?
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The offense is fairly good, but the defense is still a bit of a mess. Goaltending has been huge.
I wonder this too, haven’t been watching. The team had previously underperformed under this coach, and they seem to be getting badly out shot quite often .
Good for SDA, good to hear the report on Abramov, and great game by Hutch.
I expected/hoped one of Amadio or Brooks to sneak through which would have pushed guys down abit and balanced the lines. NickRob’s injury didn’t help. Nor did Anderson and Semyonovs recalls….though eventually expected in the latter case.
Glad the goalies are going.
Be a lil nicer if Gogolev, Abramov and Kral picked up the production abit. Most of the other guys are about where you’d hope.
I very rarely say anything negative. Make a lot of sarcastic remarks. But the guy asked what we thought of Kressler, I gave my opinion. I don't think he will be an NHL player.
I don't like how well Mercer is doing, making our Amirov pick look bad
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I doubt Mercer was ever in the conversation for that pick. Leafs had a clear strategy in 2020 to not draft from the CHL. They took Villeneuve but it was probably because they had him ranked much higher than where he was selected in the 4th round.
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