Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread

[Knies iT]

It's early yet but he appears to be playing a lot and picking up a good amount of points for a player his age. I expected him to see time in the ECHL to start this season like Hollowell and Duszak last season. He should be a regular for the Marlies to start if he contiues his pace in the KHL.

With the ECHL out of the picture, the Marlies will need to make room for guys like McKenna who would have previously started with the Growlers.

I'd leave SDA on loan until the end of the KHL season. 15:00+ ATOI in the 2nd best league is big for his development while playing at home. Bring him over for the Marlies playoff run down the stretch and let him play in the AHL full-time next season.

 

[Minty Cowboy]

Abruzzese has hip surgery looks to be playing 2021-2022 at Harvard then maybe joining Marlies by end of next year.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

One assist for Ovchinnikov after 2periods în the MHL game today..he is playing first line centre, i thought he is a winger

 

[Cor]

Abruzzese has hip surgery looks to be playing 2021-2022 at Harvard then maybe joining Marlies by end of next year.

Yeah, Harvard wasn’t playing any games this year anyway.

Abruzzese said he would’ve been lineup ready in March I think, so not like he’s really missing any games.

The nice thing is he can go straight into a off-season training when he’s healthy in March. If he can get even more explosive, and a bit stronger, the kid will tear the league apart next year

 

[Cor]

One assist for Ovchinnikov after 2periods în the MHL game today..he is playing first line centre, i thought he is a winger

He’s listed as both Center/wing most places IIRC

 

[Cor]

SDA surprisingly has adjusted well in the KHL. Picked up another point today.

I feel like this has been discussed before, but SDA just feels like a rare smaller forward who actually does better in a pro style game, rather than Junior. He’s obviously a good junior player, but even two seasons ago when he haD the down year, he went to the ECHL and looked great in the 3 games he played. From the tiny bits that I’ve seen he’s looked good in the KHL. We all obviously remember what he did in the pre-season after he was drafted.

He might quietly be a guy that climbs the ranks quickly now that he’ll be a pro. KHL/AHL this year, AHL next season with some call ups when injuries occur type of thing.

 

[Fogelhund]

I feel like this has been discussed before, but SDA just feels like a rare smaller forward who actually does better in a pro style game, rather than Junior. He’s obviously a good junior player, but even two seasons ago when he haD the down year, he went to the ECHL and looked great in the 3 games he played. From the tiny bits that I’ve seen he’s looked good in the KHL. We all obviously remember what he did in the pre-season after he was drafted.

He might quietly be a guy that climbs the ranks quickly now that he’ll be a pro. KHL/AHL this year, AHL next season with some call ups when injuries occur type of thing.

Look, it's a very small sample set... eight games so far in the KHL... and yet, his PPG as a 20 year old, has him 14th all time, in the KHL. If he picks that up a little, he could easily be in the top 10 all time, for 20 year olds in the KHL, which would be an impressive feat. It wouldn't shock me, to see him PPG in the AHL the year after. He could end up being, the prospect that we forgot about.

20-Year Old KHL Players - Regular Season Stats

 

[Guy Boucher]

I feel like this has been discussed before, but SDA just feels like a rare smaller forward who actually does better in a pro style game, rather than Junior. He’s obviously a good junior player, but even two seasons ago when he haD the down year, he went to the ECHL and looked great in the 3 games he played. From the tiny bits that I’ve seen he’s looked good in the KHL. We all obviously remember what he did in the pre-season after he was drafted.

He might quietly be a guy that climbs the ranks quickly now that he’ll be a pro. KHL/AHL this year, AHL next season with some call ups when injuries occur type of thing.

He's a cerebral playmaker where he relies on both his own positioning and his teammates positioning. It's harder for him to play in the OHL because young players are out of position often. At the pros, he can trust his teammates are where they're supposed to be and he can get them the puck in those areas.

 

[Cor]

He's a cerebral playmaker where he relies on both his own positioning and his teammates positioning. It's harder for him to play in the OHL because young players are out of position often. At the pros, he can trust his teammates are where they're supposed to be and he can get them the puck in those areas.

That is a pretty good theory. Makes sense.

 

[daethfromabove1979]

My first time watching Abramov this season and man is he clearly the best player on that team. Really grown since last year. He very easily could have had 5+ points today if he had a couple players on his level.

He's gonna look fantastic on the Marlies next season.

Abramov's production is quite impressive considering the lack of talent he is playing with. Last year, nobody was even remotely close to a PPG pace, and this year he is still producing with his teammates not doing much.

 

[Magic Man]

With the ECHL out of the picture, the Marlies will need to make room for guys like McKenna who would have previously started with the Growlers.

I'd leave SDA on loan until the end of the KHL season. 15:00+ ATOI in the 2nd best league is big for his development while playing at home. Bring him over for the Marlies playoff run down the stretch and let him play in the AHL full-time next season.

I think that's a smart game plan for him if he continues to play a lot.

Also, for guys like McKenna. I've heard the ECHL is still running, certain teams are not, including the Growlers. But, in theory it would save some of these ECHL teams money to host players on loan from AHL teams that don't have ECHL affiliates running this season. Toronto usually signs an over supply of AHL contracts that could be used by the running ECHL teams. How the quarantining plays into those decisions could be tricky with injuries and recalls.

 

[weems]

 

[weems]

another view

 

[Cor]

The fact that Amirov is producing this well, largly in just a fourth line/outside the top 12 role is pretty awesome.

I hope that if he does sign that extension, Salavat puts him into the top 9 somewhere.

 

[Fogelhund]

I think that's a smart game plan for him if he continues to play a lot.

Also, for guys like McKenna. I've heard the ECHL is still running, certain teams are not, including the Growlers. But, in theory it would save some of these ECHL teams money to host players on loan from AHL teams that don't have ECHL affiliates running this season. Toronto usually signs an over supply of AHL contracts that could be used by the running ECHL teams. How the quarantining plays into those decisions could be tricky with injuries and recalls.

All ECHL contracts have been released, by those teams that won't be playing. Those players are now free agents. Of course, the AHL contracts aren't released, so we are going to have to find homes for those guys.

 

[stickty111]

Thats an NHL level shot.

 

[Cor]

All ECHL contracts have been released, by those teams that won't be playing. Those players are now free agents. Of course, the AHL contracts aren't released, so we are going to have to find homes for those guys.

I think that is what that poster was saying. The running ECHL teams will likely accept loans from the teams without ECHL teams running, like TOR, for their AHL signed guys, as it would be easier for a ECHL team to take someone like Alex Gudbranson for example, with the Marlies footing the bill, rather than signing an ECHL free agent.

 

[stickty111]

Apparently Korshkov will stay the entire year in the KHL.

 

[weems]

 

[Cor]

Apparently Korshkov will stay the entire year in the KHL.

Don't mind that at all.

No room on the NHL roster this year, and probably easier to keep him over there to finish the year where he's doing really well, rather than bring him over for a partial AHL season.

I wouldn't be shocked if the same happens with SDA.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think that is what that poster was saying. The running ECHL teams will likely accept loans from the teams without ECHL teams running, like TOR, for their AHL signed guys, as it would be easier for a ECHL team to take someone like Alex Gudbranson for example, with the Marlies footing the bill, rather than signing an ECHL free agent.

We wouldn't foot the entire bill, but I think the cost is only a little bit more than the cheapest possible ECHLer they could get.

So they get top-notch guys for a reduced cost.

Most likely it will work similarly to how it worked in 2012-2013 when there was the lockout and an influx of NHLers joined the AHL for the start of the season. We loaned out guys to Idaho and San Francisco.

 

[Cor]

We wouldn't foot the entire bill, but I think the cost is only a little bit more than the cheapest possible ECHLer they could get.

So they get top-notch guys for a reduced cost.

Most likely it will work similarly to how it worked in 2012-2013 when there was the lockout and an influx of NHLers joined the AHL for the start of the season. We loaned out guys to Idaho and San Francisco.

Unless I am mistaken, loan agreements can be negotiated no? So the Marlies can opt to pay the players entire salary themselves to loan them to a different ECHL team.

 

[Fogelhund]

Apparently Korshkov will stay the entire year in the KHL.

If true, no complaints here. He's having a great year, which can only help his development. With uncertainty over here, and the probability that he's on the Marlies, the KHL is just as good for his development. He can only be a better player for us, the next year.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Unless I am mistaken, loan agreements can be negotiated no? So the Marlies can opt to pay the players entire salary themselves to loan them to a different ECHL team.

It is an ECHL rule that a certain amount has to be paid by the ECHL team and falls under the budget constraints they have.

It's really a minor amount that they would have to pay regardless. They just get a much better player out of it.

 

[Cor]

It is an ECHL rule that a certain amount has to be paid by the ECHL team and falls under the budget constraints they have.

It's really a minor amount that they would have to pay regardless. They just get a much better player out of it.

Ah okay, that's something I didn't know!

But yeah, as you said, still beneficial for the ECHL teams.