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Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

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SprDaVE said:
Leafs have quite a few prospect risers this year.
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Was curious, so checked and found three other Leaf-related blurbs from EP

Dec 2nd 2022 - Stock Rising​

Ty Voit, C/LW, Sarnia Sting (Toronto Maple Leafs)​

The biggest concern surrounding Ty Voit in his draft year was his decision-making. We only had his draft-minus-one tape as a reference point, and in those viewings, Voit had a tendency to force plays and lacked spatial awareness.

The technical skills and tools were an asset, though, and have served him well since. Voit currently leads the league in scoring and was the first player to reach the 40-point mark this season.

His playmaking has risen to new heights; Voit manipulates multiple defenders at once, sends passes through tight seams, and executes one-touch passes, all while maintaining his high-pace play.

Voit has added another gear defensively, too. He anticipates, wins races for the puck, supports his defenders, and pressures opposing players into turnovers or dump-ins.

His stock has never been higher than it is now, and Voit shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.
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Jan 7th 2023 - Stock Rising​

Roni Hirvonen, LW, HIFK (Toronto Maple Leafs)​

If you took just a cursory glance at Roni Hirvonen's Elite Prospects page, it would leave you with the impression that he was having a down year just based on his production – just 15 points to show for 34 games.

Context is needed, though. HIFK is the lowest-scoring team in the entire Liiga as of this writing, making Hirvonen's 15 points comfortably enough the fourth-highest mark on the team. Things are starting to heat up of late too, with the 20-year-old centre finding the back of the net in each of his last three games.

Hirvonen's game remains projectable and well-suited to the pro ranks. He's a crafty off-puck threat around the net, consistently sneaking his way to the net-front with a perfect sense of timing for passes from the boards or behind the net. He's diligent on the defensive side of the puck, too, intercepting passes in the slot and creating steals on the forecheck. There's still room for growth physically and as a skater, but he remains one of the better prospects playing in Liiga and should make his way to North America for next season.
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Jan 7th 2023 - Stock Rising​

Nikita Grebyonkin, RW, Amur Khabarovsk (Toronto Maple Leafs)​

Earning a regular role in the KHL can prove difficult for developing players, and Nikita Grebyonkin found that out the hard way, starting the season off averaging only 2:12 a game with Metallurg Magnitogorsk in seven contests.

So, when he went back to the MHL to play once with Stalnye Lisy, Grebyonkin ran with it, grabbing three assists before a four-game stint in the VHL that eventually resulted in being loaned to Khabarovsk.

With his new club, Grebyonkin was immediately given a chance to prove his worth. The Maple Leafs' prospect generates offence with pace and skill; he looks to use his hands to get an inch, then takes a mile with his pure speed. He’s not small like many other Russian prospects who fit his style of play, so adapting to the higher physicality level of the KHL has been much less of an issue than other players have faced. He’s found his spot in the line-up with Amur, averaging just under 17 minutes a game and has scored at a 0.48 point per game clip. As the second-youngest player on one of the worst teams in the league, he’s put together a very impressive season.

His time will conclude with Amur come February as they will inevitably miss the playoffs, but it begs the question of what comes next for him. He’s clearly at the point in his career where he needs to be to be playing at this level, but spots are slim on a powerhouse Magnitogorsk side, where he remains under contract until the end of next season.
 
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SprDaVE said:
I was very wrong...

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Nice call up. Should I start asking if Mcdavid will be traded to the Leafs?

But I am excited to see him play. Hope he gets a look
I always get giddy whenever a Canadian boy gets call up for the Leafs

Really not sure though why Steeves hasn't gotten a good look
 
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honestly it's really cool to see some of these development stories like Bobby McMann. ECHL to AHL to NHL in a mater of 3 years. No one will be able to determine how far he will go with this opportunity, but good on him. This is the type of development that we've never seen before this management group. Examples like Bobby are why guys sign minor league deals with us. Just another feather in the cap of our development staff, and of course Bobby himself.

So far this year we've had Petruzelli, Kallgren, Kral, SDA, Anderson, Clifford, Mete, Benn, Hollowell, Holmberg and Robertson all come up from the Marlies with only Kieth Petruzelli not seeing game action. All while remaining in the top 5 of the NHL standings for most of the season. There is no reason to think if you are a Euro, College, or undrafted free agent that you won't be given every opportunity to succeed in our organization. The amount of ECHL to AHL to NHL storylines we are producing is starting to pile up. Even if these guys who start in the coast only end up playing a handful of games in the show. That is an incredible success story. Holl, Hollowell, SDA, Petruzelli, Marchment and now McMann. I am sure I am missing some others as well.

Cool story, and congrats to Bobby!
 
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Contenderorpretender said:
Hoefenmayer; who is he? Stat watching looks great. High PM so guessing physical. Is there any nhl potential or a career AHL'er? Looking for some detail from those who have seen him play
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I share this curiosity. Age in relation to production looks interesting for sure. Talk about monster final season in the OHL. Aged 19 though and probably feeding off Quinn and Rossi quite a bit. Nonetheless his AHL-production sure stands out.
 
I was curious and took a look at what use we've made of the ECHL Growlers and it's a bit less than I assumed. McMann and Holl technically took the ECHL-to-NHL path, but McMann only played a few games and Holl played elsewhere.

I've included those who had/have NHL contracts. A few 'interesting' projects that don't/didn't have NHL contracts (Brazeau and Hoefenmayer) or draft picks that didn't get a contract (Piccinich) are marked with *

There's plenty of other AHL/ECHL non-NHL contract tweeners I haven't included (anyone of interest I've overlooked?), so this obviously understates the entire use of the team...

2018-19
JJ Piccinich* - 62 GP
Rubins- 56 GP
SDA - 3 GP
Liljegren - 1 GP (conditioning game)

2019-20
Duszak - 34 GP
Hollowell - 19 GP
Brazeau - 57 GP*

2020-21 (no season)

2021-22
Hoefenmayer* - 46 GP
Gogolev - 14 GP
McMann - 4 GP
Petruzzelli - 23 GP
Scott - 1 GP

2022-23 (in progress)
Gogolev - 18 GP
Rindell - 5 GP
Kokkonen - 6 GP
Petruzzelli - 2 GP

Not calling into question the usefulness of the Growlers, but did some half-assed research and thought I'd share. The ECHL-to-AHL-NHL pipeline narrative may be a bit overblown?
 
AlienWorkShop said:
I was curious and took a look at what use we've made of the ECHL Growlers and it's a bit less than I assumed. McMann and Holl technically took the ECHL-to-NHL path, but McMann only played a few games and Holl played elsewhere.

I've included those who had/have NHL contracts. A few 'interesting' projects that don't/didn't have NHL contracts (Brazeau and Hoefenmayer) or draft picks that didn't get a contract (Piccinich) are marked with *

There's plenty of other AHL/ECHL non-NHL contract tweeners I haven't included (anyone of interest I've overlooked?), so this obviously understates the entire use of the team...

2018-19
JJ Piccinich* - 62 GP
Rubins- 56 GP
SDA - 3 GP
Liljegren - 1 GP (conditioning game)

2019-20
Duszak - 34 GP
Hollowell - 19 GP
Brazeau - 57 GP*

2020-21 (no season)

2021-22
Hoefenmayer* - 46 GP
Gogolev - 14 GP
McMann - 4 GP
Petruzzelli - 23 GP
Scott - 1 GP

2022-23 (in progress)
Gogolev - 18 GP
Rindell - 5 GP
Kokkonen - 6 GP
Petruzzelli - 2 GP

Not calling into question the usefulness of the Growlers, but did some half-assed research and thought I'd share. The ECHL-to-AHL-NHL pipeline narrative may be a bit overblown?
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The ECHL is typically a place where your career goes to die. To even see any maturation to the AHL level is considered a success. My point is that a guy like McMann, who was signed to a minor league deal has seen a developmental pathway from the coast to the show in just 3 seasons. Of course his time in the show could be limited to a single game, but that is 1 more game then 95-99% of pro hockey players on this planet and a dream fulfilled.

Guys signing minor league deals live on that dream of one day playing a single game in the show. So having success stories like McMann and Holl are incredible for our organization. Same could be said for guys like Petruzelli, Marchment and likely Hoefenmayer one day. By no means am I suggesting we are the only organization that has accomplished this. But it was something that rarely happened in the past for our organization. We are slowly become a premiere destination for minor league development for a variety of reasons. Best in class facilities at all levels, endless developmental staff and support, Marlies guys get to live and train in the same city as the big club which makes call ups/downs far easier on family life, and now we are stockpiling examples of individual success stories and opportunities to play.

With our cap construction unlikely to change for the foreseeable future, having a plethora of low AAV 2-way contracts are essential to the success of our team. They won't all become household names, but if they can fill a gap here and there that's all we need. And over time you'll end up finding another Mason Marchment in that bunch
 
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With Mcmann looking great in his call-up, and having guys like SDA/Steeves/Abruzzese performing well in the A.

I'd move Anderson. He's expendable as he doesn't bring anything that can stand out in our current lineup. I wouldn't mind moving him to give him an opportunity elsewhere.

For example:

Joey Anderson for Pavel Ragenda

Ragenda would add a burst of speed and size. I think his skillset is more projectable in the bottom 6 and could be a guy that could replace Engvall next year.
 
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Mitch nylander said:
With Mcmann looking great in his call-up, and having guys like SDA/Steeves/Abruzzese performing well in the A.

I'd move Anderson. He's expendable as he doesn't bring anything that can stand out in our current lineup. I wouldn't mind moving him to give him an opportunity elsewhere.

For example:

Joey Anderson for Pavel Ragenda

Ragenda would add a burst of speed and size. I think his skillset is more projectable in the bottom 6 and could be a guy that could replace Engvall next year.
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He's very vanilla from my limited viewings. Doesn't seem to bring the greatest energy forward game.
 
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I am Canadian said:
He's very vanilla from my limited viewings. Doesn't seem to bring the greatest energy forward game.
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Honestly, I'd rather take a pick. 3rd preferably but not sure if at this point he's even worth that. 4th or 5th I guess. Give the scouts a chance to take a flyer on a dropping guy. Plus, we're kind of low on picks of any kind at the moment. Stocking the cupboard back up is preferable to taking up a roster spot with "some dude."
 
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