Well he has 20 goals and hasn’t gelled with really anyone yet. His goals have come entirely 5 on 5 and from hard work. I’ve watched every game this year and as soon as some chemistry comes with better linemates he will put up more points.
Value of: Marco Rossi +
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If anything, being on an ELC makes the player more valuable, not less.
Faber is still on his ELC, is he only worth a 2nd rounder in a trade?
When he’s 18 or 19 years old. Not 22.
Realistically: Rossi + your 2024 1st (~15th OA) maybe gets you to around 6th- 7th OA pick.
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Habs would poss give you WIN pick for Rossi.
No way in hell they trade their 1st for him tho
As usual, draft picks are overrated here on HFB. This year, the #1 has huge vale because of Celebrini, but otherwise.... top 11-12 are interesting, but almost every player has a flaw.
I see absolutely no reason for MN to trade Rossi right now, especially given his ELC, their cap situation, and where their competitive window is(hint, not next year).
I mean, if CBJ wants to trade Fantilli for him, the sure, but we know that's not going to happen. From them, probably the player that they might move for Rossi straight up is Johnson, but i'm not thrilled about that, as a Wild fan.
I see absolutely no reason for MN to trade Rossi right now, especially given his ELC, their cap situation, and where their competitive window is(hint, not next year).
I mean, if CBJ wants to trade Fantilli for him, the sure, but we know that's not going to happen. From them, probably the player that they might move for Rossi straight up is Johnson, but i'm not thrilled about that, as a Wild fan.
Fantilli at 18-19 is outpacing Rossi at 22. Why on god’s earth would anyone value a guy who just played his first NHL season at 22 and didn’t crack 40 points over a guy that could potentially turn into a Rantanan, Nylander, Sergachev, Tkachuk, Hughes etc..?
Even if the odds are~30% that the pick end up being a bust, I would still take the gamble on finding an elite forward or top pairing D rather than going with the “safe pick” of a 5’9 center that couldn’t crack an NHL line-up deprived of center before turning 22.
Everyone keeps mentioning age - I fail to see how that really matters when his contract situation remains the same as an 18 or 19 year old.
Kaprizov came into the league as an old rookie....he is a top 5 winger in the league...nobody said anything about his age.
This has been explained to you multiple times in this thread. The potential growth from an 18-19 years old putting up 37 points is much bigger than when the player is only able to reach that when he’s 22. Being a “rookie” has absolutely nothing to do with it. It’s irrelevant.
The fact that he’s 22 and still being considered a rookie is far from being a flex. I hope you at least understand this basic fact.
HuGort
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Montreal has enough small forwards as is and he would be stuck behind Suzuki and Dach anyway
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Rossi lost almost two full off seasons of training. I don’t think it’s a suprise his development has slowed down, but I’m excited to see where he is 3 years from now as he adds more strength.
HuGort
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I'm okay with his size. Rossi is solid. I remember one time he sent Slafkovsky flying
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I think this is probably right.
I also think that there a decent possibility that looking back in 2-3 years, that Rossi would/could absolutely be worth the 6th-7th pick alone, but I understand why teams wouldn't do it right now.
If the Jackets want to improve next season but won't use him on their team, I wonder if the Wild could trade Rossi + decent pick for Jiricek? (I get the narrative about franchise D being pricey to acquire but the Jackets aren't even using him on the big club).
Columbus has tried to shore up their blueline and it's still awful, and they aren't planning to use David, so if possible they should try to add proven entities up front? At least they can have the offensive punch to better stay in games instead of being awful on both ends of the floor (and if the Jackets are keen on not playing David, they might need to trade him for pennies on the dollar when he demands out, and other teams probably won't give prime D prospects for him).
Columbus has tried to shore up their blueline and it's still awful, and they aren't planning to use David, so if possible they should try to add proven entities up front? At least they can have the offensive punch to better stay in games instead of being awful on both ends of the floor (and if the Jackets are keen on not playing David, they might need to trade him for pennies on the dollar when he demands out, and other teams probably won't give prime D prospects for him).
I literally said that it was not going to happen. You seemed determined to create arguments out of nothing.
I don't understand why CBJ wouldn't keep Jiricek going forward. Right now they are just taking their time with him. I would think about that trade as a MN fan, but it's not really a need, with Faber's development and Spurgeon having three more years left on his contract.
I don't see the point of trading Rossi right now for MN. He's having a good first year, plays a position of need for MN, and is likely to improve, as opposed to almost all of the other C's on MN's roster.
David Jiricek Is Rightfully Frustrated With Latest Demotion To The AHL
Why are the Columbus Blue Jackets mishandling David Jiricek?
Granted this post is dated but there was another article just a couple days ago (March 22) where they brought up Jiricek on an emergency basis only to send him back down the day after. Their RD are some combo of Severson/ Gudbranson (eats tough minutes, isn't that good though)/ Jake Bean (plays a safe game but probably doesn't have David's upside)/ Boqvist (drafted as an offensive QB but not getting the chance nor has he been all that productive). At minimum, if they want to insulate David they can just play Severson and Gudbranson against tougher opponents and perhaps pair David with a reliable partner like Bean, but Boqvist isn't productive in his bread and butter skillset IMO to warrant staying in the lineup ahead of a blue-chipper who would likely benefit from NHL time, when Boqvist only scored 10 points all season and has been injury prone.
HuGort
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I doubt you get him for that. Maybe Jets first and Barron? Rossi signed for next year 1.7m. Which Let's us be active in free agent market.
Jets 1st at 23 + Barron would bring us to pick 15ish.
Rossi isn't worth Dach and this what we had to give for Dach
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