Marc Bergevin - Road Closed for Repair Edition

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Why not hire Eugenie Bouchard as GM? She's a very accomplished athlete, a bright, well-spoken woman, and is very familiar with Montreal's media. Yes, she has no direct experience managing a hockey team, however we've opted for lesser resumes from our recent GMs and she can probably learn just as well as them. What we'd lose in hockey experience we'd gain big-time in marketing. Plus, name a single GM who wouldn't take her call.

ahhahahahahahahahahah Post of the f***ing year man i tell you

 

[ahmedou]

Why not hire Eugenie Bouchard as GM? She's a very accomplished athlete, a bright, well-spoken woman, and is very familiar with Montreal's media. Yes, she has no direct experience managing a hockey team, however we've opted for lesser resumes from our recent GMs and she can probably learn just as well as them. What we'd lose in hockey experience we'd gain big-time in marketing. Plus, name a single GM who wouldn't take her call.

She'll dress with her bikinis and underwears on this function and the press conferences?

If Yes?

Then I'm in...

 

[Milhouse40]

So you actually felt that we were an a****ing contender with Desharnais as our first line center?

Gimme a break man!!! that team was going ****ing nowhere jeezus....

You are right....not with Desharnais as our 1st line center and what did Bergevin did back then to fix that problem...nothing.

We had the goalie...we had the very best in the league.
When Markov and Subban were there we had the defender
We even had a great cast of forward.....except for Desharnais.

When you finish 1st in your division for 2-3 years in row, it means the windows is there.
We even made the ECF with freaking Desharnais, so i'm right to think that we were not that far out if Bergevin had get us that center, even if it was for a couple of month (TDL addition)...but noooooo he had to keep his 1st round pick to get Scherbak and McCarron

 

[ECWHSWI]

Why even bring up Bergevin? My response was about those particular GM's! Has nothing to do with Bergevin.

youre trashing a GM for not making the PO often while kissing Bergevin ass for the Habs missing the PO 3 of last 4 seasons.

You think a GM is dumb for helping its team win a round of PO for the very first time in history, yet you praise Bergevin for not spending to help the team make the PO.

You take shots at a GM who built a team from scratch in a single summer and help its team the 2nd season by bringing a full top line while praising this Habs GM for acquiring guys like Weise, Thompson, Weal...

 

[Lshap]

What the hell did Nill do for god sake? Dallas missed the PO 8 times in the last 10 years! They're having a decent run this year and Nill is a genius all of a sudden? Please... The guy made big trades his whole career but had no clue how to actually build a team.

Kekalainen just said fruck it I'm getting fired anyway, I'm gonna make a splash! His gamble was dumb as ****!

They barely made the PO! If Boston manages to beat them he'll look like a complete moron! Invested a ton of picks and prospects just to make the second round? Yeah...

McPhee? What the hell did McPhee do? He was probably the first to be surprised how well that team performed!!!

All the moves that organization made were to slowly get better through the draft and stuff but they somehow exploded out of the gate... I can see them struggle in the near future.

And seriously Doug Wilson? That guy is there since fracking 2003!!! And that team keeps chocking year after year in the PO!

Wilson and McPhee are excellent GMs. The ultimate measure of success for a GM is to build perennial contender, which both have done. The fact that their current and former teams didn't win a Cup is not on them. Both guys did everything you'd want a GM to do.

But I agree with you on Nill. He was the flavour of the week because he pulled off some excellent, ballsy trades, but his core's contracts were totally out of whack and left a roster with gaping holes in nets and on D. Plus his drafting is terrible, even worse than ours. Bishop was a great move, hope it works out for him, but he's done nothing until now.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Wilson and McPhee are excellent GMs. The ultimate measure of success for a GM is to build perennial contender, which both have done. The fact that their current and former teams didn't win a Cup is not on them. Both guys did everything you'd want a GM to do.

But I agree with you on Nill. He was the flavour of the week because he pulled off some excellent, ballsy trades, but his core's contracts were totally out of whack and left a roster with gaping holes in nets and on D. Plus his drafting is terrible, even worse than ours. Bishop was a great move, hope it works out for him, but he's done nothing until now.

Nill would've been great for us based on what he did in Dallas.

Different GMs have different strengths. Nill has demonstrated that he can bring in some big names in key roles. That's pretty much all this core needed five years ago. Not that I'd have expected him to land Seguin here (coming from Boston) but he's gotten some good names for the Stars.

Brian Burke is similar. Say what you want about him as a GM overall, he's always been good at making big deals.

 

[Vachon23]

To be short. To be understandable. Anyone of the panelists of AC it's a big nope. Do you work for RDS? Yes. Ok you're hired. Our sense of imagination is weak or what...

Who cares about the AC ? You really think Darche has been hired because he work at RDS ?! It was not even in his main work ...

- He was president of the LHPS ( and he did an amazing work. This league has never been so healthy and it’s growing. Alote personne who are implicated in hockey Quebec wanted him as new CHL President)
- He know alote about the convention collective
- Lou Lamoreillo had big praise about him when he work a little bit with the Devils
- He went 4 years to McGill
- He was director of business development and public relations at Delmar International

 

[Vachon23]

If the Habs wanted the best hockey resume, Mathieu Darche's name would never come up. Not with proven track-records like Dean Lombardi available, or excellent AGMs like Bill Guerin ready to become GM. There are your top names if you want the best GM. Darche is a smart man, but he's simply not at their level, not to mention other better-qualified candidates currently working in the NHL.

For various reasons, the Habs seem unwilling or unable to get the best hockey GM, so why not at least get the best marketing figure? If we're willing to compromise part way on experience & success, why not fully embrace it and go all the way! I mean, it's not like our recent compromises have succeeded; maybe it's time for a different compromise! Eugenie Bouchard is intelligent and understands the discipline of pro sports. Yes, she'd start with a hockey disadvantage, but so would many of the names mentioned as potential GMs for the Habs. We'd expect them to learn, so will she.

We've been willing to settle for candidates who were somewhat less qualified to manage a hockey team, and we've won nothing. If we're going to continue to win nothing anyway, why not make it someone who'd absolutely kill it on the media side. Eugenie for GM!

But Bill Guerin won’t be there in 5 years and Lombardi won’t come in Canada.

 

[ZUKI]

Jim Nill did it.
Jarmo Kekalainen did it.
George McPhee did it.
Doug Wilson did it.

Is Bergevin able to do it? I strongly doubt it. But it's far from an impossible task. Add an elite winger and a strong top-4 LD to this team and they can surprise a lot of people.

I think that we are most of the time very severe about our team's management(s) . Look at those GMs ; if you add together all their years as GMs and how many time they won a Cup or were in the Cup final , you will see that it's a very, very low score

 

[OnTheRun]

Who cares about the AC ? You really think Darche has been hired because he work at RDS ?! It was not even in his main work ...

- He was president of the LHPS ( and he did an amazing work. This league has never been so healthy and it’s growing. Alote personne who are implicated in hockey Quebec wanted him as new CHL President)
- He know alote about the convention collective
- Lou Lamoreillo had big praise about him when he work a little bit with the Devils
- He went 4 years to McGill
- He was director of business development and public relations at Delmar International

Well none of that stuffs actually matter, for now he got a very entry-level administrative job with the Bolts, he would need to climb the ladder all the way to assistant-GM to be considered a legit GM candidate for the Habs or any other team.

So until he get there, there isn't much to discuss.

 

[ZUKI]

Why not hire Eugenie Bouchard as GM? She's a very accomplished athlete, a bright, well-spoken woman, and is very familiar with Montreal's media. Yes, she has no direct experience managing a hockey team, however we've opted for lesser resumes from our recent GMs and she can probably learn just as well as them. What we'd lose in hockey experience we'd gain big-time in marketing. Plus, name a single GM who wouldn't take her call.

She barely speak french , so she can't

 

[ZUKI]

What the hell did Nill do for god sake? Dallas missed the PO 8 times in the last 10 years! They're having a decent run this year and Nill is a genius all of a sudden? Please... The guy made big trades his whole career but had no clue how to actually build a team.

Kekalainen just said fruck it I'm getting fired anyway, I'm gonna make a splash! His gamble was dumb as ****!

They barely made the PO! If Boston manages to beat them he'll look like a complete moron! Invested a ton of picks and prospects just to make the second round? Yeah...

McPhee? What the hell did McPhee do? He was probably the first to be surprised how well that team performed!!!

All the moves that organization made were to slowly get better through the draft and stuff but they somehow exploded out of the gate... I can see them struggle in the near future.

And seriously Doug Wilson? That guy is there since fracking 2003!!! And that team keeps chocking year after year in the PO!

That's crazy , isn't it ? If Price wouldn't have been injured during the playoffs, Habs would have make the Cup finals that season , and maybe won it . But all those guys have together 2x cup finals in a total of 47 seasons

 

[Vachon23]

Well none of that stuffs actually matter, for now he got a very entry-level administrative job with the Bolts, he would need to climb the ladder all the way to assistant-GM to be considered a legit GM candidate for the Habs or any other team.

So until he get there, there isn't much to discuss.

He is like assistant GM right know. He is Director of hockey operations , he’s not a simple scout. I’m not saying Darche will be the Habs GM in a near futur, I’m saying that one day Darche will be Habs GM

 

[ECWHSWI]

Trade for a first line center at the TDL? When this even happened?

are you serious ??

 

[ECWHSWI]

That's crazy , isn't it ? If Price wouldn't have been injured during the playoffs, Habs would have make the Cup finals that season , and maybe won it . But all those guys have together 2x cup finals in a total of 47 seasons

lets not talk like this is a fact...


unless you have "proof" or something obviously.

 

[Deluded Puck]

Dude! I've been hearing here the whole time that nothing matters but the cup! So who cares at the end of the day? Right? They all failed...

Why are you being obtuse... a GMs job is to put his club in a position where the common consensus would be that the roster that he has assembled is a contender, it’s up to the coach put the players in that roster in the best position to succeed, and it’s up to the players to actually perform. Bergevin hasn’t done *HIS PART* in 7 years.

 

[OnTheRun]

He is like assistant GM right know. He is Director of hockey operations , he’s not a simple scout. I’m not saying Darche will be the Habs GM in a near futur, I’m saying that one day Darche will be Habs GM

Director of hockey ops don't do what you think they do. Most team don't really have one because the role is easily compounded in someone else role but here a few one from across the league:

Leafs: Elite Prospects - Reid Mitchell Team Staff Profile
Panthers: Elite Prospects - Braden Birch Team Staff Profile
Bruins: Elite Prospects - Jeremy Rogalski Team Staff Profile
Vegas: Elite Prospects - Misha Donskov Team Staff Profile
Nucks: Elite Prospects - Jonathan Wall Team Staff Profile

Most common background for a Director of Hockey ops? Video coach... Like I said, this is a very entry-level administrative job... Bottom of the ladder more or less.

 

[Vachon23]

Director of hockey ops don't do what you think they do. Most team don't really have one because the role is easily compounded in someone else role but here a few one from across the league:

Leafs: Elite Prospects - Reid Mitchell Team Staff Profile
Panthers: Elite Prospects - Braden Birch Team Staff Profile
Bruins: Elite Prospects - Jeremy Rogalski Team Staff Profile
Vegas: Elite Prospects - Misha Donskov Team Staff Profile
Nucks: Elite Prospects - Jonathan Wall Team Staff Profile

Most common background for a Director of Hockey ops? Video coach... Like I said, this is a very entry-level administrative job... Bottom of the ladder more or less.

Yep but it’s better then scout. I’m not saying that he is will be hired next year.. I’m just making a projection like we do with prospect

 

[CGG]

It's going to be real hard to find that elite talent.

Max Domi, in spite of being healthy all season, finished 47th in league scoring.

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

 

[DAChampion]

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

Strong counter-arguement.

 

[Miller Time]

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

Sooooo.... What you're trying to say is that we lack elite talent to support the talent we have?

I might be mistaken, but I think that was DAChampion's underlying point

 

[Scriptor]

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

That just proves he's not as good as Danault when it comes to making his line mates better

 

[Deluded Puck]

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

All valid points, though his shooting % was through the roof compared to his career average, similar to Plekanec’s career years in ‘08 and ‘10

 

[26Mats]

Exactly 12 players in the league this year scored more points than Domi at even strength. It's shocking that so many people fail to see how good that guy is. He didn't play at all with our top scoring winger (Tatar) or leading goal scorer (Gallagher) and racked up more points than Matthews and Stamkos (at ES).

Montreal needs a power play.

May not be such a bad idea to get Skinner to play with him.

If Skinner-Domi-Shaw is too small, then we should also get a Dzingle.

 

[Archijerej]

May not be such a bad idea to get Skinner to play with him.

If Skinner-Domi-Shaw is too small, then we should also get a Dzingle.

You're paying to much attention to paper measurements of height and weight, while ignoring the style of play. Shaw, Byron, Lehkonen are our toughest wingers, regardless of their size.