Value of: Marc-Andre Fleury to the Oilers
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Jumptheshark
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one big problem or should I say 7 million problems.
Just to engage the idea
Koskinen goes and his 4.5 mill--that leaves the oilers needing to find another 2.5 cap hit. Oilers are using all their LTIR already and I can not see the Hawks keeping money and not asking for a first
Just to engage the idea
Koskinen goes and his 4.5 mill--that leaves the oilers needing to find another 2.5 cap hit. Oilers are using all their LTIR already and I can not see the Hawks keeping money and not asking for a first
ElPrimeTime
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They would need to retain and I could seem them retaining for something other than a 1st to get something back for Fleury in a lost season instead of losing him for nothing after the season.
For some reason I foresee this being a bad year for Fleury, not just a Chicago thing. He is such an up and down goalie and can knock his own team out of the playoffs, I want the Oilers to steer clear.
I think that this rumor makes a lot of sense. The Hawks will have a fire sale at the deadline and there won't be a lot of teams in need of a starting goalie. Therefore the cost won't be too high and the Oilers surely have a need there.
Gurglesons
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I think Edmonton makes a lot of sense for Fleury, they may have to overpay though to get teams to do the whole double retention thing
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A possibly very expensive backup option. For me there are really good goalies worth paying for, like Gibson, and then there is everyone else. There's perhaps a 50/50 chance Fleury will give you sub .900 goaltending in the playoffs. You might as well get Korpisalo if you can't get a better bet and if the price for Fleury doesn't come way down.
Fluery back in his early years playing in Pittsburgh was outstanding however I think he was overhyped simply because Pittsburgh was so talented that it hid some of his issues.
Crawford always outplayed fluery in head to head matchups and both goalies got drafted the same year.
While I thought it was a solid move to bring in a proven veteran goalie , the way he handled the trade and then to finally come here and let's all be honest he has stunk , he has let in to many soft goals .
I do think fluery gets moved sooner than later. The interim GM I think he is going to make some type of move soon
Crawford always outplayed fluery in head to head matchups and both goalies got drafted the same year.
While I thought it was a solid move to bring in a proven veteran goalie , the way he handled the trade and then to finally come here and let's all be honest he has stunk , he has let in to many soft goals .
I do think fluery gets moved sooner than later. The interim GM I think he is going to make some type of move soon
SherVaughn30
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Caps could give a better offer of Samsonov($2 million only, still RFA)+Schultz($4 million only) for Fleury($6 million, $1 million retained by the Hawks).
not sure if i got it right but fleury at 50% for koskinen and a b prospect or mid pick ? edmonton would pick up a million in cap space to . i'm pretty sure it'll cost edmonton a whole lot f..... more than that . you know smith will be injured by than . would you wanna be riding fleury or koskinen ?
don't forget how bad chicago sucks when considering fleurys play
don't forget how bad chicago sucks when considering fleurys play
VanillaCoke
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Fleury is finished.
Oilers need a better, longer term solution that MAF.
Oilers need a better, longer term solution that MAF.
GreeningOil
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Chicago does suck. Smith doesn’t have to be worried about being injured in the future, as he is currently injured. Fleury is a pure rental. 50% and Koskinen is likely a 2nd round pick. Who else is going to take Fleury at his current contract (for more than that)? NO ONE.
TheNewEra
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did something happen to samsonov? He was very hyped recently and granted this is just based off the stats i looked up but it looks like he has had a slow start
Rock and roll, Caps. The Oilers should have no interest in getting into a bidding war for MAF. No one should.
Oilers to give up a first for him? Holland can't be that dumb... can he?
Oilers are giving the better Goalie AND need to add?
Last year was fleury's last hurrah. He was pretty bad in 20 and average in 19. Been trending down for a while. He's done.
Last year was fleury's last hurrah. He was pretty bad in 20 and average in 19. Been trending down for a while. He's done.
SherVaughn30
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Caps have a better d-group lineup than Vegas and the Hawks. They are only allowing 27 shots against per game, yet the goaltending is still too inexperienced at times. Caps basically are using 2 backup goalies in Vanecek/Samsonov.
ManofSteel55
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Fleury was given away in the summer. His play certainly hasn't done much to make me think the value that he has should have gone up since then even if that was a cap dump move.
Plus, doesn't Fleury have a partial NTC or something? I know Edmonton might be a contender now, but I don't see him waiving for Edmonton when he's a hair away from hanging up the pads.
I'd rather wait it out a bit and see what shakes loose when other teams have realized their season will not include the playoffs. I'd rather give a chance to a guy like Bernier if we could get him from New Jersey, Varlamov from the Islanders, the often discussed Gibson from Anaheim, or maybe even one of the guys in Seattle right now. Goalies will shake loose. It isn't "Fleury or nothing", and I just don't see how the money can work for Edmonton. And if the money COULD work, I'd prefer to pay more and get Gibson.
Plus, doesn't Fleury have a partial NTC or something? I know Edmonton might be a contender now, but I don't see him waiving for Edmonton when he's a hair away from hanging up the pads.
I'd rather wait it out a bit and see what shakes loose when other teams have realized their season will not include the playoffs. I'd rather give a chance to a guy like Bernier if we could get him from New Jersey, Varlamov from the Islanders, the often discussed Gibson from Anaheim, or maybe even one of the guys in Seattle right now. Goalies will shake loose. It isn't "Fleury or nothing", and I just don't see how the money can work for Edmonton. And if the money COULD work, I'd prefer to pay more and get Gibson.
Oilers love adding aging goaltenders.
They will probably extend him for 4 years too.
They will probably extend him for 4 years too.
Deen
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I've said it before. There should be a pact league wide where no one gives Edmonton a goaltender.
TKalltheTime
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MAF to the oil and another horribly laughable first round gong show exit… sign me up! Ha *chefs kiss*
Empoleon8771
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I think Fleury is a hardcore systems goalie at this point, so unless the Oilers can sufficiently isolate him, I don't think he'll be very good for them.
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