It is lazy.. and both sides do it.. getting stapled to something subjective and the i would be happy to be wrong sets the person up to be satisfied either way.. i forget what it is called as a mechanism at the moment but it is common
Am I supposed to be thrilled that his new fat contract is kicking in on the wrong side of 30? One that the Canucks are rumoured to have tried to move off all last year?
What are you talking about? I brought up how inane it is to say he will continue to do something that he hasn't even started to
Unless he plays like the OEL of forwards there is no point bitching about it.
I was talking about how his points regressed last year by 17, and given his age, will continue to decline as he gets older. The new contract will only make things look worse.
You mean regression from an outlier season. If he is thought as a 99point player he won’t be paid just 8M.
You do if you a sucker motherf***er. Winning organizations pocket that surplus value and leak to the press that they aren't gonna be heartbroken to not pay their aging captain a golden parachute retirement deal.
I think people are just not educated on what you get for 8M a year.
Most here are but it does seem that there is a certain group of posters who lack the ability to gauge values and performances on a league wide scale and complain about things that are inaccurate or without data to support their claims.
Yeah 100% agreed. The idea of having the same plan as everyone else and just executing better is basically the equivalent of a gameplan being just outworking your opponents and wanting it more. As stated, this is moronic because you'll have to do that regardless, it's like saying that in order to win you're going to both breathe and skate.
there are only so many “plans” you can do it a capped sports league. The difference between teams will always be luck and execution.
I'm not the one injecting. I'm taking the front office's plan and words for what they say are. You're the one trying to imagine some grand, underlying master plan. When in reality the track they've taken is just a better-executed version of Benning's team-building philosophy.
Very well said.
Perhaps "decline" isn't the right word. I think it's more that the more "realistic" posters (of which I would put myself in that camp) do not think that highly of Miller to begin with - given his issues with 5v5 play and spotty record playing center. Add that he'll be 30 and aging into his big contract, the direction and value the Canucks should expect to get from him is not going to trend upward.
Where did Miller's defensive numbers and 5 on 5 scoring rank last year? Genuinely wondering, because I'm under the impression he is a power play specialist. Doesnt he have about the same 5 on 5 points as garland over the last 2 years?
Shrug - i guess. I would expect and want him to maintain his numbers at ppg or more - i certainly do not expect another 99 point season
Sorry. Sometimes I think multiple steps ahead and assume people will use critical thinking.
So your plan is to find top3 GM which is who and then rebuild through the draft and hope and prey you get more than Hughes Miller Boeser Pettersson Hronek Kuzmenko and Demko in an appropriate age grouping and then what? I mean how would you ever know that they are on the verge of the right moves vs the wrong ones to satisfy your path? I mean you said it yourself that everyone is trying to win and just from an odds standpoint you're in the 3% category. What does this even look like and what if the draft never yields elite talent then what?
I was inferring that due to his age, his production is much more likely to regress than improve or even remain static.
There are many reasons why his age is not as far on the negative end of the spectrum as you jump to than other 30 yr olds could be
Extracting too much from the defensive numbers on last year's team is kinda pointless given the playstyle, defense and goalies but at ES Miller had 43 pts which had him tied for 72nd amongst forwards. He did have some ugly moments early in the year ghat was not acceptable defense but balanced himself out by seasons end. Will be interesting to see how he does fixed at C this year with Tocchets system and better support.
Historically, its more of a negative than a positive in terms of point production.
