I love JR. He's about as transparent as a guy in a senior management position can be. Don't have to agree with everything he says but it is refreshing.
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AwesomeInTheory
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i wish someone had asked rutherford to reconcile his comments about the miller contract not being a cap problem and his comments that the cap was preventing trades and was going to lead to the loss of horvat. i get that he was talking about the miller contract with regards to the future and the horvat deal is a problem right now but what responsibility does he take for putting them in a position to lose horvat over the cap?
Mr. Canucklehead
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I'll at least give Rutherford credit for being frank and taking a lot on the chin.
But that doesn't mean I don't think there's been a lot of disappointing missteps and needless controversies that have landed us where we are.
But that doesn't mean I don't think there's been a lot of disappointing missteps and needless controversies that have landed us where we are.
Canucker
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I think we all want that, and I think he kind of explained why there has been so little movement...I mean I can't defend some of his decisions...I think we all know the value of cap space, he even alluded to it in the interview, but re-signing Miller, signing Mikheyev and re-signing Boeser are all moves that created a restrictive environment...so he's made his bed somewhat, but the market overall has been dead as a doornail and we do have a shit ton of bad money tied up, it's cumulatively a shit sandwich and we're only a few bites into it.
My summary: "re-tooling but that will necessitate moving out some players who are thought to be in the core. Some big contracts for underperforming players will be bought out if they can't move them in a trade by the summer". Both of these points should be welcomed news to this fanbase.
I'll agree with his own admission that he's doing a bad job.
Bubbles
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Yep, exactly.
This will satisfy the non-HF people out there, and the will forget once Tocchet gets the dead cat bounce and everyone forgets how horrible the season will go.
Horvat stays for the playoff push, we trade more assets for "help", we miss the playoffs, win meaningless games at the end to ruin the odds for Bedard, and rinse and repeat.
AwesomeInTheory
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That’s horse shit.
He was quoted in interviews when Todd Harvey was promoted. I remember it because the best he could manage was “he’s a great guy to have a beer with” as the reason why he was promoted, lol.
He’s been quoted on other stuff, but that one stood out.
rypper
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Did he ever do a press conference or media availability... no. No he did not.
You missed the part where he posted here pretending to be a normal fan lol
Breakers
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CALLED IT!!!!
Wants young players who
“didn’t work out in their entry”
And people were talking prospects
When given the choice between “upside” and “readiness” they’ll choose readiness every time
Wants young players who
“didn’t work out in their entry”
And people were talking prospects
When given the choice between “upside” and “readiness” they’ll choose readiness every time
rypper
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Oh no I was very aware, especially when he let it slip and used a "I did this..." instead of a "john Weisbrod did this..."
He did the same thing earlier in the season, and when he was hired. I understand PR is PR, sure, but when the result is shit, PR is merely sprinkles on a shit sundae.
Until I see actions, his lofty speeches to me means f***-all.
funniest team in the league, man
what an entertaining presser. much better than the on-ice product
what an entertaining presser. much better than the on-ice product
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the part about targetting players who didn't work out on their elcs is straight from rutherford. the rest is editorialized i think
TruGr1t
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Agreed. He's speaking to a certain segment of the fanbase that is still willing to believe there is some form of hope here. Hope for what ... who knows ... I'm guessing some playoff appearances. Anyone who thinks this team, as composed, is anywhere close to legitimately competing for anything is completely nuts. They are a cycle away (5+ years), and it will take some hard moves and good management to get there.
They are doing what Benning did, just trying to claim they can do it marginally better. Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.
Breakers
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“I'd prefer to get younger NHL players that maybe didn't work out in their entry level contract and, you know, bring them in and give them a second chance."
Bubbles
Die Hard for Bedard 2023
JR and the rest of the management must have all been sleeping in when Tolvanen came on waivers...
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FAQ really learned you need a personable character to really buy more time. Linden was supposed to be that guy but he came off as to insincere and combative to the public.
It does work wonders for naïve people. You hear stories of companies hiring a new approachable VP or PR spokesperson after a traumatic period of layoffs/firings, in a lame attempt to rebuild moral and company imaging, only for the company to just fire more people. One of my companies did this, we had so many workshops and meetings aimed at gauging why our moral was lacking, and then laid us off during COVID.
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