Malkin is the best Russian player ever

Taking Bure over Malkin is foolish

No kidding

Bure, the guy who was only over PPG half of his time in the NHL? (5/10) while Malkin was only under ONCE?! Lets not even get into the trophy case..


EDIT: Was wrong above. 6/12 seasons he was under PPG.

Its a two horse race, between Ovechkin and Malkin. His injuries are a damn shame, no doubt he would have eclipsed most of Ovechkin's point totals season to season, in my opinon. He's either at or very near the top every time he goes down. His trophy case is a bit less impressive than OV' but man, I have a hard time saying OV is the best. He's a PP fiend, his 5 on 5 play is disgusting. Sorry, it is. His goal scoring is impressive, everything else is meh. Malkin is way more of a catalyst.

1.Malkin
2.Ovechkin
3.Fedorov
 
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Ovi has numbers and achievements, but I take Malkin over him if I had to built a team
 
My personal top 10:

1. Fetisov
2. Makarov
3. Kharlamov
4. Tretiak
5. Firsov
6. Ovechkin
7. Malkin
8. Fedorov
9. Mikhailov
10. Petrov

Pretty close to my list. Kharlamov was something special the first time I saw him. Wasn't until Gretzky I felt I saw someone better at forward. Same with Tretiak. Wasn't until Hasek I saw better. I admit my nostalgia clouds me. My personal list would have Bure though. No player scored more "pretty" goals which doesn't matter really but hey personal list.
 
Bure didn't have a Crosby, let alone the depth that Pittsburgh has continued to ice.

Bure was a one trick pony who you DO NOT build a Cup-winning team around.

He was incredible at his one trick but he'd be best as a complimentary piece to a team.
 
Bure, Fedorov, and Mogilny are better, just off the top of my head...I'm sure there's more. Malkin will go down as a top 10 Russian skater though, that much I'm confident about.
 
No kidding

Bure, the guy who was only over PPG half of his time in the NHL? (5/10) while Malkin was only under ONCE?! Lets not even get into the trophy case..


EDIT: Was wrong above. 6/12 seasons he was under PPG.

Its a two horse race, between Ovechkin and Malkin. His injuries are a damn shame, no doubt he would have eclipsed most of Ovechkin's point totals season to season, in my opinon. He's either at or very near the top every time he goes down. His trophy case is a bit less impressive than OV' but man, I have a hard time saying OV is the best. He's a PP fiend, his 5 on 5 play is disgusting. Sorry, it is. His goal scoring is impressive, everything else is meh. Malkin is way more of a catalyst.

1.Malkin
2.Ovechkin
3.Fedorov

Crazy thing about Bure is he had 71 goals and 110 points in his first 85 games with Florida, in 1999 and 2000, not exactly easy seasons to score in. That certainly backs up the opinion of him being an equal goal scorer to Ovechkin at his peak, but not as an overall player of course.
 
Why would you? Ovechkin is one dimensional, can't (won't) play defense, & can't get his team out of the 2nd round (even in years when they don't play us. Malkin plays an all-around complete game, is more talented than Ovechkin (I'll give Ovechkin the edge in goal scoring), & far more creative with the puck. Ovechkin plays a bull rush down the boards & cuts across the middle of the slot. Or he just one times on the PP. He's basically the modern day Brent Hull....

Brent Hull was the man.. His dad too, Bubba Hull.
 
If we narrow that to first 82 consecutive games with Florida he actually still had 70 goals and 108 points.
 
No, he's not, and it's clear.
However, he's the 2nd best Russian NHL player ever and at this rate will be #1 some day.
 
Bure was a one trick pony who you DO NOT build a Cup-winning team around.

He was incredible at his one trick but he'd be best as a complimentary piece to a team.

Maybe, but it's impossible to compare their offensive production given the era difference and their corresponding teams. Malkin has played on a MUCH better roster than Bure ever did. Obviously your point totals will reflect who you play with to a certain extent.
 
on a side note the bure posters are laughable. Posters want to call Ovi a one dimensional player, while Bure DEFINED one dimensional. He was a 100 mphs from center into the O zone. NEVER back checked and could frequently be seen floating at center ice while his team was hemmed in the D zone.

Obviously you never watched Bure play much in Vancouver.
 
Can't believe Bure is being mentioned. He is not even close to Malkin.

In NHL it's between Malkin, Ovechkin and Fedorov (Peak).

All time it's those three along with Tretiak, Kharlamov, Makarov
 
No kidding

Bure, the guy who was only over PPG half of his time in the NHL? (5/10) while Malkin was only under ONCE?! Lets not even get into the trophy case..


EDIT: Was wrong above. 6/12 seasons he was under PPG.

Its a two horse race, between Ovechkin and Malkin. His injuries are a damn shame, no doubt he would have eclipsed most of Ovechkin's point totals season to season, in my opinon. He's either at or very near the top every time he goes down. His trophy case is a bit less impressive than OV' but man, I have a hard time saying OV is the best. He's a PP fiend, his 5 on 5 play is disgusting. Sorry, it is. His goal scoring is impressive, everything else is meh. Malkin is way more of a catalyst.

1.Malkin
2.Ovechkin
3.Fedorov

NHL centric nonsense. Bure was better than Malkin. The fact that his career was marred by the time period they all had to play in the NHL(and that is the only thing you know, but only a small part of the hockey world) and was cut short by injuries can't negate the fact. Your north american judging by north american trophies and stats is just hilarious at times. Watch the game, not the stats.

Also you just list russian players you know. Just don't. You can have your own discussion about the besr russian NHL player of the last decade or something.
 
Can't believe Bure is being mentioned. He is not even close to Malkin.

In NHL it's between Malkin, Ovechkin and Fedorov (Peak).

All time it's those three along with Tretiak, Kharlamov, Makarov

Can't believe people have so poor understanding of the game they can't understand why Bure is right up there.
 
Can't believe people have so poor understanding of the game they can't understand why Bure is right up there.

The accolades speak for themselves. Bure was never a threat to win a scoring title like the other Russians were.

Not only that, but he was inferior in play away from puck.
 
No kidding

Bure, the guy who was only over PPG half of his time in the NHL? (5/10) while Malkin was only under ONCE?! Lets not even get into the trophy case..


EDIT: Was wrong above. 6/12 seasons he was under PPG.

Its a two horse race, between Ovechkin and Malkin. His injuries are a damn shame, no doubt he would have eclipsed most of Ovechkin's point totals season to season, in my opinon. He's either at or very near the top every time he goes down. His trophy case is a bit less impressive than OV' but man, I have a hard time saying OV is the best. He's a PP fiend, his 5 on 5 play is disgusting. Sorry, it is. His goal scoring is impressive, everything else is meh. Malkin is way more of a catalyst.

1.Malkin
2.Ovechkin
3.Fedorov

A bit less impressive? Lol, 14-6 isn't even close. OV has him more than doubled.

Must've missed the first half of OV's career. And it's strange that a guy who's "everything else is meh" beats the "catalyst" 8-3 in top 10 pt finishes and led the NHL in PPG 3x vs 1x.
 
Bure was a hell of a talent and one of the most entertaining I've ever seen but I wouldn't put him in the same class as OV,Malkin,Fedorov,Tretiak etc. Kovalev could have been the best but...Kovalev.
 
Ovechkin has had Backstrom for his entire career pretty well. Malkin had scraps for most of his, Neal for a season and a half, and bit of Kessel. Not really a good point, imo.

Ovechkin scored 96 goals and was a 2x 1st AST in 2 seasons before Backstrom entered the NHL. Even in his 65 goal season he only played with Backstrom for ~2 months. Malkin might get "scraps" but he also gets cupcake matchups because of Crosby. More than evens out.
 

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