Major Trade coming this offseason.

[Mess]

After watching most of these other playoff series its become glaringly apparent that our Leafs are not a few minor tinkering around the edges with some depth pieces away from competing against this serious Cup contending monsters, neither physically nor tempo nor work ethic nor goaltending nor coaching.

This team need a major overall and not a minor tune-up. IMO

 

[Captain14]

Lou took over the leafs after we finished with 68 points. We hadn't made the playoffs since the shortened season in 2012-2013.

His first season we came dead last and got to pick auston matthews.

His 2nd season we made the playoffs for the first time in several years.

Lou's 3rd year we set a franchise record for points and made the PO twice in a row for the first time since around 2004.

Lou was here for only 3 years yet all we had was progression. Each year we got more points and made the PO.

So years 1 and 2 after coming dead last we made the POs. Can you name another team that has done the same?

Now dubas got to inherit a 105 point team that was 2 years removed from coming last place. Since then we have no series wins and even missed the playoffs last year.

Lou went to a worse team and they have outperformed us every year.

It is very clear which gm is better.

Amen to that!

 

[fahad203]

We still have a 2022 first round draft pick. Can't wait to see which washed up vet we are gonna get this year

I think it's time we finally get Bobby Ryan. You know try to ressurect his career

 

[Amadeus]

After watching most of these other playoff series its become glaringly apparent that our Leafs are not a few minor tinkering around the edge with some depth pieces away from competing against this serious Cup contending monster, neither physically nor tempo nor work ethic nor goaltending nor coaching.

This team need a major overall and not a minor tune-up.

Yeah, Mess...you know it. These guys won't be able to keep up with the Vegas teams or even the Tampa's and Boston's.

They need to learn how to play the right way. It starts from their own end and then transitions to the boards. They're clearly not there with the team constructed the way it is.

 

[Maple Leaf]

After watching most of these other playoff series its become glaringly apparent that our Leafs are not a few minor tinkering around the edge with some depth pieces away from competing against this serious Cup contending monster, neither physically nor tempo nor work ethic nor goaltending nor coaching.

This team need a major overall and not a minor tune-up.

7 year rebuild?

 

[Captain14]

Habs have zero offence but the best goalie in the world and everyone on the same shut down game
Plan. Ha unbelivable.
Leafs are a bunch of losers. Marner matthews dubas shanny keefe all dummies.

The Hab’s just put up another 5 spot tonight against Helly. That’s 11 goals in three games against a top goalie. They have plenty of offense.

 

[WildWolfdog]

Very true. It all ends up on Shanny’s lap.
He let Mark Hunter and Lou Lam go and it’s been downhill ever since.
You cut Shanny loose and bring in a new management group to get this franchise back on track, especially when the M & M’s will most likely be gone in 3 years.
They can’t trust Shanahan to rebuild our team again.

Lol, why hasn't anyone else signed Mark Hunter since he was let go? I'm sure there are plenty of other teams who would love to acquire this otherworldly power that he supposedly wields?

 

[Gabriel426]

Leafs is not as far off as some of you are saying.
I think with another year of being starter, Campbell will be good enough to lead a team to Cup Finals.
If Bogo comes back, the defence is good, just have to make sure Keefe okay his best 6 Dmen instead of trying to get someone games.
Matthews need to be the dominant 1C that he is capable of and he needs to take over at least 2-3games per series.
JT needs to show he can be the scores those big goals like Toews.
Willie needs to attack the zone all the time with speed.
Marner, if he stays, just need to simplify his game and keep it simple, scoring a goal off a rebound count as much as deking out the goalie and slotting it in.
Engvall needs to be William Karlsson 2.0.
Soup needs to score on some of his break away.
Spezza just needs to stay Vintage.

 

[WildWolfdog]

So many words and all it boils down to is just your opinion and your bias.

It is hilarious that you and the other dubas fan boys think the majority of his moves are wins and yet we can't win even a single series against the worst team that made the playoffs.

There have been countless examples where his fanboys cant help but gush over any trade or signing only for it to turn out that it wasn't such a good move after all. Kadri, sparks, foligno, the rfa contracts, etc, etc.

If dubas was as good as you and his other fans think, we wouldn't have lost in the first round, again.

At some point you need to realize that you are using emotion and bias to weigh his moves. I am using facts and results. One is clearly superior to the other but I'll let you figure that out for yourself.

Yeah exactly!

I can't believe Dubas scored zero goals in the playoffs. And in doing so he somehow influenced the Rocket Richard winner to score only 1 goal and a top 5 points producer to score 0 goals.

I can't believe Dubas shot himself in the foot like that!

And what's worse, he told Tavares to get injured in the 1st game - ugh, what a dumb decision in hindsight.

 

[Donnie740]

Lol, why hasn't anyone else signed Mark Hunter since he was let go? I'm sure there are plenty of other teams who would love to acquire this otherworldly power that he supposedly wields?

Have to say, I absolutely LOVED the way the Hunter brothers played. Exactly what you want in a player - - tough, nasty and willing to do anything to win.

What an epic moment when Dale and Mark fought each other during the Good Friday Massacre.

Now THAT was a series.

 

[Donnie740]

Leafs is not as far off as some of you are saying.
I think with another year of being starter, Campbell will be good enough to lead a team to Cup Finals.
If Bogo comes back, the defence is good, just have to make sure Keefe okay his best 6 Dmen instead of trying to get someone games.
Matthews need to be the dominant 1C that he is capable of and he needs to take over at least 2-3games per series.
JT needs to show he can be the scores those big goals like Toews.
Willie needs to attack the zone all the time with speed.
Marner, if he stays, just need to simplify his game and keep it simple, scoring a goal off a rebound count as much as deking out the goalie and slotting it in.
Engvall needs to be William Karlsson 2.0.
Soup needs to score on some of his break away.
Spezza just needs to stay Vintage.

Agree 100% - - and as I mentioned previously in an earlier thread, this team is very close to championship level.

First priority to get there is hiring a competent NHL coach instead of a minor league hack. Cannot overcome being as badly out coached as Keefe has been in the playoffs.

Second priority is replacing the little kid and his spreadsheets with a GM who understands that hockey is a physical game that’s played by men.

Once that’s done, it’s just a matter of replacing some of the figure skaters on the 3rd and 4th lines with some actual hockey players.

 

[K2MyEverest]

Hey guys ! Not here to troll. Don't think "Heres an Habs fan that wants to rub in our face by trying to retool the team". No I just like to go on capfriendly and look at different lineup and what could be a good move and managing cap situation with different teams etc. So here's what I'm thinking. This team needs a shake up. Break the top 4. You trade Marner. You keep Nylander, Matthews, Tavares. 2 elite centers and a very good winger.

Here's something that I think would look good on the Leafs:

As of right now, you have 12.5M cap space for 21-22.

You trade Marner (10.9M) to Philadelphia for Konecny (5.5M)+ Patrick (RFA) + maybe some draft pick to even it out

Philly needs a shake up too and they could use a elite winger like Marner (10.9M)(even if he had difficult playoff, he's elite) Philly is a big team and Marner would be a very good fit.

So that 12.5M cap space becomes 23,4M which you substract 5.5M Konecny and you resign Nolan Patrick for a two year friendly deal so he can prove he can avoid injuries and become the player we thought he could be when he got drafted

So you have 17.9 cap space with Konecny on the team

Re-sign Galchenyuk I think he played hard and well enough to deserves another shot. 1.5M x 1 or 2 years

You re-sign Zach Hyman at all cost. This guy bleeds blue and white and is your very own "Gallagher". He was such a pain in the ass in the first round.

I think he'll ask for between 5 to 6m per year unfortunately but with Marner gone, you have space to re-sign him.

Let's say 5.5M x 5 or 6 years.

You now have 10,9M to spend with Galchenyuk and Hyman re-signed.

You go on the UFA market and sign Blake Coleman 3.5M to 4M per year (Now this is an actually efficient grinding vet, not Thornton or Simmonds)

6.9 remaining (gave him 4M)

Re-sign Spezza 0.700M (He's still have it)
Re-sign Bogosian 1M x 2

Re-Sign Dermott 2.5M x 2

Sign Patrick for 1M x 2 prove it contract

Sign a vet goalie for 1.5M

You have 0.200M. I would try to make an deal with Seattle so they take Mikheyev so approx

1.8M cap space

Hyman Matthews Konecny (Elite center with two in your face winger with offensive talent)
Galchenyuk Tavares Nylander (Great skill line, Galchenyuk works hard, Tavares have exceptional vision and Nylander is a sniper with very good all around skill)
Coleman Kerfoot Patrick (Great mix of speed + size + talent. A very good third line)
Robertson Spezza Engvall (Very intelligent and skilled center + speedy small and talented winger + big Pierre Engvall)

Rielly Brodie (Pure offensive dman + Intelligent two way Dman)
Muzzin Holl (Bring the pain!) (Big sized dman that can produce + mean Holl)
Dermott Bogosian (A very honest third pair in today NHL)
Sandin Liljegren

Campbell
UFA goalie (McElhinney ?)

I think there's a little bit more sand paper with still elite talent with potential break out low risk high reward talent with Galchenyuk, Patrick, Robertson.

You add good vet with Stanley Cup experience in Coleman to the group. He's very clutch in playoff and a perfect third line player.

+
Konecny
Patrick
Coleman

-
Marner
Andersen
Mikheyev

What do you think? I think Marner will be missed on some night but there's more balance like this.

 

[Donnie740]

Hey guys ! Not here to troll. Don't think "Heres an Habs fan that wants to rub in our face by trying to retool the team". No I just like to go on capfriendly and look at different lineup and what could be a good move and managing cap situation with different teams etc. So here's what I'm thinking. This team needs a shake up. Break the top 4. You trade Marner. You keep Nylander, Matthews, Tavares. 2 elite centers and a very good winger.

Here's something that I think would look good on the Leafs:

As of right now, you have 12.5M cap space for 21-22.

You trade Marner (10.9M) to Philadelphia for Konecny (5.5M)+ Patrick (RFA) + maybe some draft pick to even it out

Philly needs a shake up too and they could use a elite winger like Marner (10.9M)(even if he had difficult playoff, he's elite) Philly is a big team and Marner would be a very good fit.

So that 12.5M cap space becomes 23,4M which you substract 5.5M Konecny and you resign Nolan Patrick for a two year friendly deal so he can prove he can avoid injuries and become the player we thought he could be when he got drafted

So you have 17.9 cap space with Konecny on the team

Re-sign Galchenyuk I think he played hard and well enough to deserves another shot. 1.5M x 1 or 2 years

You re-sign Zach Hyman at all cost. This guy bleeds blue and white and is your very own "Gallagher". He was such a pain in the ass in the first round.

I think he'll ask for between 5 to 6m per year unfortunately but with Marner gone, you have space to re-sign him.

Let's say 5.5M x 5 or 6 years.

You now have 10,9M to spend with Galchenyuk and Hyman re-signed.

You go on the UFA market and sign Blake Coleman 3.5M to 4M per year (Now this is an actually efficient grinding vet, not Thornton or Simmonds)

6.9 remaining (gave him 4M)

Re-sign Spezza 0.700M (He's still have it)
Re-sign Bogosian 1M x 2

Re-Sign Dermott 2.5M x 2

Sign Patrick for 1M x 2 prove it contract

Sign a vet goalie for 1.5M

You have 0.200M. I would try to make an deal with Seattle so they take Mikheyev so approx

1.8M cap space

Hyman Matthews Konecny (Elite center with two in your face winger with offensive talent)
Galchenyuk Tavares Nylander (Great skill line, Galchenyuk works hard, Tavares have exceptional vision and Nylander is a sniper with very good all around skill)
Coleman Kerfoot Patrick (Great mix of speed + size + talent. A very good third line)
Robertson Spezza Engvall (Very intelligent and skilled center + speedy small and talented winger + big Pierre Engvall)

Rielly Brodie (Pure offensive dman + Intelligent two way Dman)
Muzzin Holl (Bring the pain!) (Big sized dman that can produce + mean Holl)
Dermott Bogosian (A very honest third pair in today NHL)
Sandin Liljegren

Campbell
UFA goalie (McElhinney ?)

I think there's a little bit more sand paper with still elite talent with potential break out low risk high reward talent with Galchenyuk, Patrick, Robertson.

You add good vet with Stanley Cup experience in Coleman to the group. He's very clutch in playoff and a perfect third line player.

+
Konecny
Patrick
Coleman

-
Marner
Andersen
Mikheyev

What do you think? I think Marner will be missed on some night but there's more balance like this.

I’d be fine with trading Marner but they’d need WAY more than just Konecny and Patrick. That’s a horrible return.

I realize Marner’s cap hit is $10.5 but because it was front loaded the actual hard money out-of-pocket cost is only $6m per.
That’s a very appealing number for a cheap low budget team and would surely bring a return better than Konecny and Patrick.

If the Leafs are dealing Marner their target needs to be one of the Tkachuk brothers.

Giving Hyman anything more than $4m per is a massive mistake. Other than trying his best, he doesn’t do anything at a high level.
Not an agitator like Gallagher, not overly physical, definitely not a lockdown defensive forwards, certainly not a goal scorer. He’s a 40pt plugger entering the back half of his career.

Not a chance in hell I’d give him $5m per because he’s not close to being worth it.
I would, however, give that $5m to one of your guys - - Phil Danault. That’s exactly the kind of defensive specialist and face off guy the Leafs need to create an effective checking line.

If the Leafs can truly pull that much cap space out of their ass, I’d much rather give $7m to a legit stud like Gabby Landeskog who combines talent, toughness and effort better than any forward the Leafs have. Can’t realistically see him leaving Colorado though unfortunately.

 

[K2MyEverest]

I’d be fine with trading Marner but they’d need WAY more than just Konecny and Patrick. That’s a horrible return.

I realize Marner’s cap hit is $10.5 but because it was front loaded the actual hard money out-of-pocket cost is only $6m per.
That’s a very appealing number for a cheap low budget team and would surely bring a return better than Konecny and Patrick.

If the Leafs are dealing Marner their target needs to be one of the Tkachuk brothers.

Giving Hyman anything more than $4m per is a massive mistake. Other than trying his best, he doesn’t do anything at a high level.
Not an agitator like Gallagher, not overly physical, definitely not a lockdown defensive forwards, certainly not a goal scorer. He’s a 40pt plugger entering the back half of his career.

Not a chance in hell I’d give him $5m per because he’s not close to being worth it.
I would, however, give that $5m to one of your guys - - Phil Danault. That’s exactly the kind of defensive specialist and face off guy the Leafs need to create an effective checking line.

If the Leafs can truly pull that much cap space out of their ass, I’d much rather give $7m to a legit stud like Gabby Landeskog who combines talent, toughness and effort better than any forward the Leafs have. Can’t realistically see him leaving Colorado though unfortunately.

I gave Hyman that much because I think that's what he'll get on the market...

As for the Tkachuk deal for Marner that would be a good one too. Both of them are exactly what the Leafs needs.

Danault? Stay away! He's ours! But yeah he would be a good fit on the Leafs but if you sign Danault you trade Kerfoot.

For the Konecny deal I think Marner would return a good line up player + prospect + pick. You can say Patrick is the prospect and you could add a pick from Philly.

I think with player like Marner with massive contract, you have to lower a bit your expectations in terms of trade. I realize Konecny + Patrick + pick is more quantity for quality but at it brings more balance to the top 9 but yeah they could do the same with one of the Tkachuk brother.

I don't think Landeskog will leave the Avs and I think Montreal will re-sign Danault. He would be perfect for your third line with Coleman for example but Coleman is more likely to sign somewhere else than Tampa than Danault or Landeskog with their own teams.

 

[Trapper]

Yeah, Mess...you know it. These guys won't be able to keep up with the Vegas teams or even the Tampa's and Boston's.

They need to learn how to play the right way. It starts from their own end and then transitions to the boards. They're clearly not there with the team constructed the way it is.

They need to learn to play the right way.
Sorry, that was Shanahan last year after the Columbus loss.

This year it’s killer instinct.

 

[ottomaddox]

Leafs is not as far off as some of you are saying.
I think with another year of being starter, Campbell will be good enough to lead a team to Cup Finals.
If Bogo comes back, the defence is good, just have to make sure Keefe okay his best 6 Dmen instead of trying to get someone games.
Matthews need to be the dominant 1C that he is capable of and he needs to take over at least 2-3games per series.
JT needs to show he can be the scores those big goals like Toews.
Willie needs to attack the zone all the time with speed.
Marner, if he stays, just need to simplify his game and keep it simple, scoring a goal off a rebound count as much as deking out the goalie and slotting it in.
Engvall needs to be William Karlsson 2.0.
Soup needs to score on some of his break away.
Spezza just needs to stay Vintage.

Toronto will do nothing with the above mentioned players. Engvall to become Karlsson 2.0. I was thinking Carlton 2.0.

 

[ottomaddox]

They need to learn to play the right way.
Sorry, that was Shanahan last year after the Columbus loss.

This year it’s killer instinct.

A great buzz word. Next year it will be "integrity".

 

[Stigma]

I'm okay with a Konecny + for Marner. Let's not forget that Konency is already getting close to PPG, and with Matthews beside him, I can see it happening for sure. So, say, he gets 80 points as opposed to 95 points (Marner). His tenacity, north-south play, and rat-behaviour makes up for the 15 point gap, IMO. As mentioned, he has Marchand-light potential. These players are very, very hard to find. The + has to be part of the deal, but it doesn't have to be a mind-blowing plus. My 2 cents.

 

[Trapper]

I'm okay with a Konecny + for Marner. Let's not forget that Konency is already getting close to PPG, and with Matthews beside him, I can see it happening for sure. So, say, he gets 80 points as opposed to 95 points (Marner). His tenacity, north-south play, and rat-behaviour makes up for the 15 point gap, IMO. As mentioned, he has Marchand-light potential. These players are very, very hard to find. The + has to be part of the deal, but it doesn't have to be a mind-blowing plus. My 2 cents.

I’m for that with a package of young D in the top 4 and high pick.

 

[Garthinater]

Yeah exactly!

I can't believe Dubas scored zero goals in the playoffs. And in doing so he somehow influenced the Rocket Richard winner to score only 1 goal and a top 5 points producer to score 0 goals.

I can't believe Dubas shot himself in the foot like that!

And what's worse, he told Tavares to get injured in the 1st game - ugh, what a dumb decision in hindsight.

Were you expecting dubas to score goals in the playoffs? Lmao the guy has never played competitive hockey in his life.

I'm sure you think you are being witty but you come off looking very foolish.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Hey guys ! Not here to troll. Don't think "Heres an Habs fan that wants to rub in our face by trying to retool the team". No I just like to go on capfriendly and look at different lineup and what could be a good move and managing cap situation with different teams etc. So here's what I'm thinking. This team needs a shake up. Break the top 4. You trade Marner. You keep Nylander, Matthews, Tavares. 2 elite centers and a very good winger.

Here's something that I think would look good on the Leafs:

As of right now, you have 12.5M cap space for 21-22.

You trade Marner (10.9M) to Philadelphia for Konecny (5.5M)+ Patrick (RFA) + maybe some draft pick to even it out

Philly needs a shake up too and they could use a elite winger like Marner (10.9M)(even if he had difficult playoff, he's elite) Philly is a big team and Marner would be a very good fit.

So that 12.5M cap space becomes 23,4M which you substract 5.5M Konecny and you resign Nolan Patrick for a two year friendly deal so he can prove he can avoid injuries and become the player we thought he could be when he got drafted

So you have 17.9 cap space with Konecny on the team

Re-sign Galchenyuk I think he played hard and well enough to deserves another shot. 1.5M x 1 or 2 years

You re-sign Zach Hyman at all cost. This guy bleeds blue and white and is your very own "Gallagher". He was such a pain in the ass in the first round.

I think he'll ask for between 5 to 6m per year unfortunately but with Marner gone, you have space to re-sign him.

Let's say 5.5M x 5 or 6 years.

You now have 10,9M to spend with Galchenyuk and Hyman re-signed.

You go on the UFA market and sign Blake Coleman 3.5M to 4M per year (Now this is an actually efficient grinding vet, not Thornton or Simmonds)

6.9 remaining (gave him 4M)

Re-sign Spezza 0.700M (He's still have it)
Re-sign Bogosian 1M x 2

Re-Sign Dermott 2.5M x 2

Sign Patrick for 1M x 2 prove it contract

Sign a vet goalie for 1.5M

You have 0.200M. I would try to make an deal with Seattle so they take Mikheyev so approx

1.8M cap space

Hyman Matthews Konecny (Elite center with two in your face winger with offensive talent)
Galchenyuk Tavares Nylander (Great skill line, Galchenyuk works hard, Tavares have exceptional vision and Nylander is a sniper with very good all around skill)
Coleman Kerfoot Patrick (Great mix of speed + size + talent. A very good third line)
Robertson Spezza Engvall (Very intelligent and skilled center + speedy small and talented winger + big Pierre Engvall)

Rielly Brodie (Pure offensive dman + Intelligent two way Dman)
Muzzin Holl (Bring the pain!) (Big sized dman that can produce + mean Holl)
Dermott Bogosian (A very honest third pair in today NHL)
Sandin Liljegren

Campbell
UFA goalie (McElhinney ?)

I think there's a little bit more sand paper with still elite talent with potential break out low risk high reward talent with Galchenyuk, Patrick, Robertson.

You add good vet with Stanley Cup experience in Coleman to the group. He's very clutch in playoff and a perfect third line player.

+
Konecny
Patrick
Coleman

-
Marner
Andersen
Mikheyev

What do you think? I think Marner will be missed on some night but there's more balance like this.

I don't think Hyman will be back and wouldn't want to see him on the top line again anyway
Robertson - I'm not sure he's ready and Engvall is up and down

 

[TheGoldenJet]

A great buzz word. Next year it will be "integrity".

Don’t forget “process”.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Hey guys ! Not here to troll. Don't think "Heres an Habs fan that wants to rub in our face by trying to retool the team". No I just like to go on capfriendly and look at different lineup and what could be a good move and managing cap situation with different teams etc. So here's what I'm thinking. This team needs a shake up. Break the top 4. You trade Marner. You keep Nylander, Matthews, Tavares. 2 elite centers and a very good winger.

Here's something that I think would look good on the Leafs:

As of right now, you have 12.5M cap space for 21-22.

You trade Marner (10.9M) to Philadelphia for Konecny (5.5M)+ Patrick (RFA) + maybe some draft pick to even it out

Philly needs a shake up too and they could use a elite winger like Marner (10.9M)(even if he had difficult playoff, he's elite) Philly is a big team and Marner would be a very good fit.

So that 12.5M cap space becomes 23,4M which you substract 5.5M Konecny and you resign Nolan Patrick for a two year friendly deal so he can prove he can avoid injuries and become the player we thought he could be when he got drafted

So you have 17.9 cap space with Konecny on the team

Re-sign Galchenyuk I think he played hard and well enough to deserves another shot. 1.5M x 1 or 2 years

You re-sign Zach Hyman at all cost. This guy bleeds blue and white and is your very own "Gallagher". He was such a pain in the ass in the first round.

I think he'll ask for between 5 to 6m per year unfortunately but with Marner gone, you have space to re-sign him.

Let's say 5.5M x 5 or 6 years.

You now have 10,9M to spend with Galchenyuk and Hyman re-signed.

You go on the UFA market and sign Blake Coleman 3.5M to 4M per year (Now this is an actually efficient grinding vet, not Thornton or Simmonds)

6.9 remaining (gave him 4M)

Re-sign Spezza 0.700M (He's still have it)
Re-sign Bogosian 1M x 2

Re-Sign Dermott 2.5M x 2

Sign Patrick for 1M x 2 prove it contract

Sign a vet goalie for 1.5M

You have 0.200M. I would try to make an deal with Seattle so they take Mikheyev so approx

1.8M cap space

Hyman Matthews Konecny (Elite center with two in your face winger with offensive talent)
Galchenyuk Tavares Nylander (Great skill line, Galchenyuk works hard, Tavares have exceptional vision and Nylander is a sniper with very good all around skill)
Coleman Kerfoot Patrick (Great mix of speed + size + talent. A very good third line)
Robertson Spezza Engvall (Very intelligent and skilled center + speedy small and talented winger + big Pierre Engvall)

Rielly Brodie (Pure offensive dman + Intelligent two way Dman)
Muzzin Holl (Bring the pain!) (Big sized dman that can produce + mean Holl)
Dermott Bogosian (A very honest third pair in today NHL)
Sandin Liljegren

Campbell
UFA goalie (McElhinney ?)

I think there's a little bit more sand paper with still elite talent with potential break out low risk high reward talent with Galchenyuk, Patrick, Robertson.

You add good vet with Stanley Cup experience in Coleman to the group. He's very clutch in playoff and a perfect third line player.

+
Konecny
Patrick
Coleman

-
Marner
Andersen
Mikheyev

What do you think? I think Marner will be missed on some night but there's more balance like this.

I think I could live with this.
imo nice take

 

[AllDay28]

Have to say, I absolutely LOVED the way the Hunter brothers played. Exactly what you want in a player - - tough, nasty and willing to do anything to win.

What an epic moment when Dale and Mark fought each other during the Good Friday Massacre.

Now THAT was a series.

ohhhh you’re old. Explains why you don’t like Dubas

 

[keonsbitterness]

ohhhh you’re old. Explains why you don’t like Dubas

I also remember that game and there was never a dull moment. The obvious inference is that the current Leafs lack enough playoff intensity or killer instinct or whatever you want to call it, but a game from 37 years ago isn't needed to illustrate that. All you have to do is watch most of the other playoff teams playing this year.