MacKinnon has 150 points in his last 82 games

TheStatican

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Here is the issue / strawman / whatever
You really ought to educate yourself on the meaning of the term because you clearly don't understand it.

Is Argument B a Strawman

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And lastly, as a statistician...
The name has more to do with the fact that I use objective analysis with actual data, rather than solely relying on subjective views like you do.

I mean what are the odds I believe something that all the other 8.2 billion humans on earth disagree with? :huh: You could have used probabilistic thinking like me to avoid wasting time in chatGPT with your strawman dunk.
Wow... I didn’t think this required clarification, but here it is: Naturally, people who don’t follow baseball are highly unlikely to have an opinion on the topic. Only those who follow the sport and understand its history can form an informed perspective. Among those with this understanding, no one would suggest that Aaron Judge's and Shohei Ohtani's seasons are somehow less historically significant simply because they occurred in the same year. Their dominance has been substantiated by their performances relative to the field, not to each other.

Those are not the same achievements, regardless of how much you want to deny that they are.
Maybe reread what I actually wrote. Never once did I say that Kucherov and MacKinnon's '24 were the same or equal to McDavid's in '23, nor did I say that MacKinnon surpassing 153 would automatically make his season superior. McDavid's '23 is ahead of their '24 seasons, but this is substantiated by data derived from more meaningful metrics such as making adjustments for scoring levels or his separation from the field e.g., the top 10, 20, and 50 players. Things that are less subject individual circumstances that can affect the performance of one or two select peers on a year to year basis.

McDavid's superiority is not like Gretzky's, where year in and year out he was so dominant that no one was even in the same stratosphere. In contrast, we can clearly see that other players have challenged McDavid’s standing as the games best player within individual seasons and are even capable of surpassing him, albeit just barely. So far McDavid's absolute peak has indeed been slightly superior to absolute peak of his nearest peers, but it'll be interesting to see if that remains the case by seasons end.
 
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TruePowerSlave

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That’s what happens when you have one of the worst GM’a in the league helming the ship.
CMac should do better. However, Sakic was in charge of some stacked Avs teams. Management were just way too cautious in their approach especially at the deadline.
 

crowfish

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Wow... I didn’t think this required clarification, but here it is: Naturally, people who don’t follow baseball are highly unlikely to have an opinion on the topic. Only those who follow the sport and understand its history can form an informed perspective. Among those with this understanding, no one would suggest that Aaron Judge's and Shohei Ohtani's seasons are somehow less historically significant simply because they occurred in the same year. Their dominance has been substantiated by their performances relative to the field, not to each other.

That sure is a lot of words over me pointing out that McDavid dominated the league in 2022, and therefore MacKinnon getting 154 is not automatically the best season of the era (as the original poster I replied to implied it would mean). So I don't really care if you believe that or not, this whole debate started when you replied to me replying to someone who implied that.

And you did not need to clarify the 1 in 8.2 billion remark, I was trolling you with that final remark. Your making a literal clarification is way funnier than the response I expected. You got so outraged and claimed my argument was so dumb that literally, no one would agree with it. Which of course means it was more likely you did not understand what I actually believed rather than me believing something "nobody else would agree with", that was the premise of my joke/troll.
 

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