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LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) VI

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Donmega said:
Ovechkin just proves you don't build around an elite winger. Laine is going to be amazing but not a good pick up for toronto
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TBH that just proves you don't build around an Ovechkin.
The center position is a lot more important but we have to remember these players are individuals.
Still I'd rather build around Matthews than Laine.
 
Mahonkinen said:
Can you give it in a nutshell why he went with Laine? I understand that its behind payed content so I understand if you dont want to.
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Won't elaborate too much, but the deciding factor was the age gap, said Matthews outplayed Laine during the year though. Also said he though Laine had borderline generational talent. Would appear he would also take him above Eichel based on his reasoning.
 
93LEAFS said:
Won't elaborate too much, but the deciding factor was the age gap, said Matthews outplayed Laine during the year though. Also said he though Laine had borderline generational talent. Would appear he would also take him above Eichel based on his reasoning.
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Ok. Thanks for this.
And indeed, Ill tip my hat to you for being "vocal pro-matthews leaf fan" and still posted it with no problems or excuses.
 
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Donmega said:
Ovechkin just proves you don't build around an elite winger. Laine is going to be amazing but not a good pick up for toronto
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1 player doesn't make the team, Matthews won't fix weak defense, or depth.


Tavarases just proves you don't build around him, Benn proves you don't build around him, you could make up these however you like.
 
93LEAFS said:
Won't elaborate too much, but the deciding factor was the age gap, said Matthews outplayed Laine during the year though. Also said he though Laine had borderline generational talent. Would appear he would also take him above Eichel based on his reasoning.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
In modern NHL you don't build around 1 or 2 players anymore per se. You need to build great team and deep team with of course those difference makers. Even Crosby wouldn't most likely have won Stanley cup if it weren't another generational centerman in Malkin and even then they only have one cup.
 
BB88 said:
1 player doesn't make the team, Matthews won't fix weak defense, or depth.


Tavarases just proves you don't build around him, Benn proves you don't build around him, you could make up these however you like.
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Nailed it.
 
felixhockey said:
Oh my freaking god! Thank god someone else is seeing what I'm seeing! He keeps forcing passes and trying to make the hard play
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Well that is what confidence means, he is not afraid and he plays hes own game.. I love him for doing that! If he dont make mistakes and play it safe it would be verry booring. I REALLY love it that he just do what he wants. And by making mistakes he will also learn that in this level it dont work by doing something that might work in liiga. And that is how he will learn that he need to do it faster maybe? or just do it easier or strait forward or whatever. Really great to see!
 
Crosby has had players better than him in the playoffs carrying him always. 09 when they actually won Malkin was the elite player during the run and now Kessel, of all people, is doing the heavy lifting..
 
toewsintangibles said:
Crosby has had players better than him in the playoffs carrying him always. 09 when they actually won Malkin was the elite player during the run and now Kessel, of all people, is doing the heavy lifting..
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Kessel seems to be good in these kinds of situations (olympics, playoffs), so I don't really see the "of all people" part as necessary.
 
Mahonkinen said:
Can you give it in a nutshell why he went with Laine? I understand that its behind payed content so I understand if you dont want to.
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Age difference favors Laine by huge margin. Matthews is better player at the moment, but with that age difference, he should be significantly better with that age advantage he isn't. Pronman has other articles which kind of proof some huge differencies about September-born vs. April-born CHL prospects.

Other thing is just how Laine is unique, and this kind cases he would prefer a special player. I'm not gonna say what way. Read the article.
 
BusQuets said:
In modern NHL you don't build around 1 or 2 players anymore per se. You need to build great team and deep team with of course those difference makers. Even Crosby wouldn't most likely have won Stanley cup if it weren't another generational centerman in Malkin and even then they only have one cup.
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In Chicago they probably hate the situation when they did build around midget-sized dangler winger, after winning 3 Cups with him.

They also had another pieces, but it definitely it won't hurt to have your generation's best goalscorer in Patrik Laine. You build around him, with other pieces.
 
Henkka said:
In Chicago they probably hate the situation when they did build around midget-sized dangler winger, after winning 3 Cups with him.

They also had another pieces, but it definitely it won't hurt to have your generation's best goalscorer in Patrik Laine. You build around him, with other pieces.
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Wow, them some big shoes to fill.....:shakehead
 
Henkka said:
In Chicago they probably hate the situation when they did build around midget-sized dangler winger, after winning 3 Cups with him.

They also had another pieces, but it definitely it won't hurt to have your generation's best goalscorer in Patrik Laine. You build around him, with other pieces.
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Except you can't know for sure if Laine will be the best goalscorer of his generation.
 
M3ntalpr0 said:
Except you can't know for sure if Laine will be the best goalscorer of his generation.
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Not only is it not for sure but it's overwhelmingly unlikely given McDavid, Eichel, Seguin ,Tarasenko etc exist with the former 2 just getting started in their careers.
 
Maplelaughs97 said:
Not only is it not for sure but it's overwhelmingly unlikely given McDavid, Eichel, Seguin ,Tarasenko etc exist with the former 2 just getting started in their careers.
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Yep, but after 10 years, when Laine has made some career, you can count his goal totals and see that since he entered the league, no one has scored more at same time period.

That's my prediction.

He has:

A) Willingness to score/shoot always from everywhere with a higher frequency than anybody else
B) Shooting accuracy and shot power to complete his purposes
C) Reach for superior puck protection/takeaways to dominate in offensive zone
D) IQ to find open high-percentage scoring spots all the time

E) Lots of time to learn some other important things in hockey, which are currently his weaknesses. And he was will to learn.

Any other current player does not have same attributes together. He is unique. Develop him well and the goals will come.
 
Henkka said:
Yep, but after 10 years, when Laine has made some career, you can count his goal totals and see that since he entered the league, no one has scored more at same time period.

That's my prediction.

He has:

A) Willingness to score/shoot always from everywhere with a higher frequency than anybody else
B) Shooting accuracy and shot power to complete his purposes
C) Reach for superior puck protection/takeaways to dominate in offensive zone
D) IQ to find open high-percentage scoring spots all the time

E) Lots of time to learn some other important things in hockey, which are currently his weaknesses. And he was will to learn.

Any other current player does not have same attributes together. He is unique. Develop him well and the goals will come.
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So essentially he has an amazing shot, long reach and high hockey IQ to find soft spots on the ice? This is his uniqueness? Which of these skills do the guys mentioned lack? (Beyond McDavid who as amazing as he is, his shot is not all the way there yet, especially the clapper). Arent these skills the vast majority of goal scorers possess?
 
FishManSam said:
Poor kid, getting so overhyped.
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I agree a bit. I don't doubt his abilities, but I don't think we should be anointing a consistent richard contender just yet. I'd be very happy if he reaches the level of Tarasenko, for example. He is no Ovechkin.

The media isn't making this discussion any better either, with the constant microscope he is under now.
 
FishManSam said:
Poor kid, getting so overhyped.
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Agreed.

His ceiling is to be a fantastic goalscorer, but things such as "generation's best goal scorer" or "greatest goal scorer of all time" is unreasonable right now.

He might get there, but it's setting him up to fail when people state it as a fact.

The guy could put 30 goals every year and people will think its a failure because he isn't putting up 40-50.
 

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