LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) V

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IMO Laine going second is even better. No extra pressure for him.

Then you don't understand the meaning of this year's draft for Finland. Having our first #1 pick would be a huge recognizement and a source of pride for our hockey. Who knows if we'll ever get this chance again - no matter how good the direction of our prospect system is now.
 
Let me continue with the praise, but this guy is generational. Already is in the national level, now we'll see how far that goes.
 
Is Ovechkin a pure superior skater? Thought so.

It's the goal scoring that does the talking, I was downplaying Laine earlier because my favorite was Pulju for a while. Not that he's better than Ovechkin in skating, but cmon.
Goal scoring =/= Skating in the long run

....Ovechkin is a superior skater.

Skating is the most important attribute in the NHL. I can't think of a #1 pick in recent history who hasn't been a strong skater.
 
Then you don't understand the meaning of this year's draft for Finland. Having our first #1 pick would be a huge recognizement and a source of pride for our hockey. Who knows if we'll ever get this chance again - no matter how good the direction of our prospect system is now.

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Ummm... Yes? Atleast was. Or do I misinterpret your question?

He does the flashy wicked fast skating goals time to time but that's not his best asset.
His shot from the left red circle (<-- put the right term there) is his best asset hands down. That's why he's hyped

And if someone still misinterprets my meaning, I'm talking about his best asset. Laine has some acceleration issues but when he gets rolling he does nifty moves and usually ends the attacks in shots. Of course ovechkin is in a class of his own, as in the best in the business, but isn't his best asset the left circle shot on PP?
 
Yeah, he is generational goalscorer.

McDavid level prospect.
Calm down, he's not. He's good, but not that good. If you think Laine can come into the league next year and have a comparable season to McDavid your in for a surprise. He's at best on the 2nd tier or prospects with Stamkos, Tavares, Eichels, and Matthews. Barkov for example was a great prospect, but it took awhile for him to adapt to the NHL level.
 
Calm down, he's not. He's good, but not that good. If you think Laine can come into the league next year and have a comparable season to McDavid your in for a surprise. He's at best on the 2nd tier or prospects with Stamkos, Tavares, Eichels, and Matthews. Barkov for example was a great prospect, but it took awhile for him to adapt to the NHL level.

Definitely agree that he is not McDavid level prospect, but you have to expect few comments to go over the top, he's doing special things in the playoffs and well this is hockey country :laugh:

But comparison to Barkov is not a very good one, Barkov is a defense 1st player, who's main goal was to get his defense up to speed before worrying personal points, he was injured during the offseason so he he missed the offseason training, impressive to think he was ready to play having just turned 18y and missing the offseason, and lastly he played with 4th liners who weren't good enough to get quaranteed NHL contacts during the summer.

Key for Laine is to be healthy this offseason, he's going to focus on his skating and who knows what team drafts him, he has potential to be a strong player next year already I'd say after few months of getting used to NA rink.
 
Calm down, he's not. He's good, but not that good. If you think Laine can come into the league next year and have a comparable season to McDavid your in for a surprise. He's at best on the 2nd tier or prospects with Stamkos, Tavares, Eichels, and Matthews. Barkov for example was a great prospect, but it took awhile for him to adapt to the NHL level.


Laines Goal is to become the best player in the world, meanwhile alot of other top prospects says that their goal is to play in the NHL. If you think Laine will relax in the summer youre wrong. He will have all hes tools he got now + he will work hes as off during the summer and I predict he will look alot different on the ice then he does today. I mean cmon, he has no empty net goal in this playoff and still challenge the alltime playoff goal scoaring record in one playoff? If he is not generational talent what does one have to do to be that in your books? :help:
 
Also WJC Pulju and Laine was one of the youngest players there against every best teams had lot of older, more experienced and mature 1st rounders and some of them have NHL experience. Laine and Pulju has difficult time before WJC and Laine was also injured some time and they linemate was just a 2nd round pick Aho. So you can't say there wasn't good linemates to Matthews like 1st rounders and older players Milano, White, Boeser, Schmaltz and good prospect who is also older than those two Tkackhuk.
 
:laugh: Matthews is the better prospect at the moment and is going #1 regardless of how much people try to convince

He may go first who knows but he certainly isn't a better prospect and probably will never be a better player. That's not even a knock on Matthews, just reality. Now I guess next we can wait Laine outplaying him in the WC and getting even more people that are in a need of reality checks to drop over ;)

Would be fun if he won either Liga or WC gold, or well, why not both next to the wjc. Laine's had one heck of a season so far and still something to come. Pretty exciting.
 
Laines Goal is to become the best player in the world, meanwhile alot of other top prospects says that their goal is to play in the NHL. If you think Laine will relax in the summer youre wrong. He will have all hes tools he got now + he will work hes as off during the summer and I predict he will look alot different on the ice then he does today. I mean cmon, he has no empty net goal in this playoff and still challenge the alltime playoff goal scoaring record in one playoff? If he is not generational talent what does one have to do to be that in your books? :help:
McDavid puts that work in, and what would he have to do? Well one, look to be a better player than McDavid, two put up a season that blows away all recent competition in his age group consistently. I would expect a guy viewed as generational to crush numbers by guys like Joel Armia and Granlund, and be a better goal scorer than Barkov at the same age. A generational prospect is a guy who emerges or comes around once in every 10 to 15 years, there aren't 3 to 4 guys in that tier in a 2 year span.

Definitely agree that he is not McDavid level prospect, but you have to expect few comments to go over the top, he's doing special things in the playoffs and well this is hockey country :laugh:

But comparison to Barkov is not a very good one, Barkov is a defense 1st player, who's main goal was to get his defense up to speed before worrying personal points, he was injured during the offseason so he he missed the offseason training, impressive to think he was ready to play having just turned 18y and missing the offseason, and lastly he played with 4th liners who weren't good enough to get quaranteed NHL contacts during the summer.

Key for Laine is to be healthy this offseason, he's going to focus on his skating and who knows what team drafts him, he has potential to be a strong player next year already I'd say after few months of getting used to NA rink.
I think Laine's an amazing prospect, and a top 2 lock, but to be put in the same sentence as McDavid I think he would have to blow away the competition. Look at who has come through the OHL in the last 20 years, and no one has come close to doing what McDavid did at 17, that is what defines generational to me. Other things like leading Canada in scoring at the U-18 WJC in his 15 year old season, and making the Canadian WJC team at 16.
 
He may go first who knows but he certainly isn't a better prospect and probably will never be a better player. That's not even a knock on Matthews, just reality. Now I guess next we can wait Laine outplaying him in the WC and getting even more people that are in a need of reality checks to drop over ;)

Would be fun if he won either Liga or WC gold, or well, why not both next to the wjc. Laine's had one heck of a season so far and still something to come. Pretty exciting.
If he goes first (which Matthews likely does), he is viewed as the better prospect outside of a gm going off the wall. Laine may end up the better player, but to say it with such absolutism is ridiculous.
 
If he goes first (which Matthews likely does), he is viewed as the better prospect outside of a gm going off the wall. Laine may end up the better player, but to say it with such absolutism is ridiculous.

There are never any guarantees. Laine is the better player now and the way he's developed I'm not expecting any set backs. But sure, crazier things has happened than Matthews reaching Laine's level.
 
I think Laine's an amazing prospect, and a top 2 lock, but to be put in the same sentence as McDavid I think he would have to blow away the competition. Look at who has come through the OHL in the last 20 years, and no one has come close to doing what McDavid did at 17, that is what defines generational to me. Other things like leading Canada in scoring at the U-18 WJC in his 15 year old season, and making the Canadian WJC team at 16.

Have to agree. I thought before this season that Laine (or Puljujarvi) needs to have 1,2 to 1,4 PPG even to be first overall this year. To be at same level than McDavid it needed the best season in FEL ever.
 
A generational prospect is a guy who emerges or comes around once in every 10 to 15 years, there aren't 3 to 4 guys in that tier in a 2 year span.

My prediction is that McDavid and Laine the generational players of the next generation.

3rd might come during their playing time but next one probably comes in 10-15 years like you said.
 
There are never any guarantees. Laine is the better player now and the way he's developed I'm not expecting any set backs. But sure, crazier things has happened than Matthews reaching Laine's level.
Matthews is at Laine's level, to say otherwise is absurd. They are both great prospects, but people are constantly underselling Matthews to prop up Laine. Matthews destroyed the USNDP program, which has consistently developed top talent, and has done nothing in Switzerland to damage his stock. While he didn't have a WJC as good as Laine, he still was an elite player there, and has excelled in a league that analytical based teams may view as more transferable to NHL scoring.
 
Matthews: THAT is how you carry your team in the playoffs.

Amazing game from Laine today.

Who the **** is Matthews?

Really a fair question at this point. Laine is dominating playoff games against top 5 teams in Europe. Matthews had good regular season points against top 40-50 teams in europe and failed to carry them in playoffs.

It should not be any sort of a contest anymore. Laine has distanced himself quite clearly. If it wasn't obvious and apparent in WJC already.
 
Have to agree. I thought before this season that Laine (or Puljujarvi) needs to have 1,2 to 1,4 PPG even to be first overall this year. To be at same level than McDavid it would have need the best season in FEL ever.

Laine is way better than he was on last October. If this good Laine would start the season again he would get 1,2-1,4 PPG.

His knee injury hindered his game a year ago but he is back on track to become the best player in the world.
 
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