LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016, 2nd, WPG) XII

[vaiski]

How many people think that Tarasanko is maybe a better comparison to Laine in terms of his ability?

I have made the comparison a couple of times. I think it's a realistic projection for him, a perennial 35-40-goal scorer. Stylistically too, Laine is closer to Tarasenko than a guy like Ovechkin.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Matthews doesnt have worse defnse than Barkov and is much better offensively.

Leafs fans should he happy if Matthews became 3/4 of the player Barkov is defensively.

 

[goblin3]

I think what really distinguishes Laine from his peers is his passion. He just appears so passionate and confident on the ice and in front of the cameras. You will never see him give another of those boring interviews or give a **** what media thinks of him.

 

[BB88]

How many people think that Tarasanko is maybe a better comparison to Laine in terms of his ability?

I mentioned few times during the playoffs that he's a bigger version of Tarasenko, consistent 35-45 goal scorer would be nice.
A nightmare to play against.

 

[TDK67]

I think what really distinguishes Laine from his peers is his passion. He just appears so passionate and confident on the ice and in front of the cameras. You will never see him give another of those boring interviews or give a **** what media thinks of him.

The problem is that the Canadian media (especially a market like WPG) will eat him alive if he doesn't perform up to expectations while still being confident and "not giving a ****" what the media thinks. I actually appreciate the fact he has a personality, but that's a double-edged sword.

 

[Hokinaittii]

The problem is that the Canadian media (especially a market like WPG) will eat him alive if he doesn't perform up to expectations while still being confident and "not giving a ****" what the media thinks. I actually appreciate the fact he has a personality, but that's a double-edged sword.

And here I thought Winnipeg, while a passionate hockey city, it still has one of the most down to earth people there. I'm pretty sure it will be easier for Laine to sleep his nights well in Winnipeg than Matthews will have in Toronto if everything isn't clicking immediately with the Leafs.

 

[TDK67]

And here I thought Winnipeg, while a passionate hockey city, it still has one of the most down to earth people there. I'm pretty sure it will be easier for Laine to sleep his nights well in Winnipeg than Matthews will have in Toronto if everything isn't clicking immediately with the Leafs.

Why are you constantly talking about Matthews? Even in a Laine thread? My comment has nothing to do with Matthews but it's nice to see how obsessed you are, I guess.

And the media is the media. There's no "down-to-earth" when it comes to getting page views and feeding controversy. You would know this if you knew anything about the Canadian media.

 

[BB88]

Why are you constantly talking about Matthews? Even in a Laine thread? My comment has nothing to do with Matthews but it's nice to see how obsessed you are, I guess.

And the media is the media. There's no "down-to-earth" when it comes to getting page views and feeding controversy. You would know this if you knew anything about the Canadian media.

Why are some only negative towards Laine in Laine thread?
But I guess it's nice to see how obsessed some are.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Why are some only negative towards Laine in Laine thread?
But I guess it's nice to see how obsessed some are.

I don't think I've ever seen fans of a team with the 1OA pick this obsessed with the 2OA pick. The Oilers fans weren't this bad last year.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Why are you constantly talking about Matthews? Even in a Laine thread? My comment has nothing to do with Matthews but it's nice to see how obsessed you are, I guess.

And the media is the media. There's no "down-to-earth" when it comes to getting page views and feeding controversy. You would know this if you knew anything about the Canadian media.

Why so sensitive if Matthews and Laine are used in the same sentence? It's ok, this is Laine thread, no one gets b-hurt here if you make comparisons between players. And to answer your question, the comparison between brutalities of medias in Toronto and Winnipeg was my point. Let's not crap ourselves, Toronto's media is a lot bigger than Winnipeg's and most likely can be even more aggressive when trying to find someone to blame.

 

[TDK67]

Why are some only negative about Laine in Laine thread?
I guess it shows how obessed some are.

It's negative to say that "not giving a ****" about the media" and possibly underperforming will be a bad mix for the team/player?

I didn't say he WILL underperform or anything, just that an attitude like that--although more interesting than the stone-like personalities of players like Matthews & McDavid--is a double edged sword if things don't go too well.

Jets fans saw it with E.Kane while Leafs fans saw it with Kessel. In general, Canadians are weird in that if they don't perceive an athlete to be modest and respectful then they quickly turn on him.

I was originally responding to someone who said it was great to see Laine "not give a **** about the media". If he doesn't give a **** about the media AND doesn't do well on the ice then he will get torn apart. That's the simple and harsh reality of Canadian markets.

You and someone else decided to get really insecure about this, which is not my fault.

 

[TDK67]

Why so sensitive if Matthews and Laine are used in the same sentence? It's ok, this is Laine thread, no one gets b-hurt here if you make comparisons between players. And to answer your question, the comparison between brutalities of medias in Toronto and Winnipeg was my point. Let's not crap ourselves, Toronto's media is a lot bigger than Winnipeg's and most likely can be even more aggressive when trying to find someone to blame.

It's not a Matthews thread and my comment had nothing to do with Matthews, yet you had to bring it up for no reason? And I'm sensitive? Jesus.

Apparently the only thing you're supposed to say or do in this thread is call Laine the most perfect prospect in the history of prospects. My bad.

Here's an edited version that is hopefully an approved opinion to have (nothing else is allowable, right?):

Laine does not have a single flaw as a player and he has the most perfect and amazing personality in the history of the game. He will be a gift to the NHL and the Winnipeg media will love him unconditionally for his entire career.

 

[BB88]

I don't think I've ever seen fans of a team with the 1OA pick this obsessed with the 2OA pick. The Oilers fans weren't this bad last year.

Its been a pretty crazy year.
The draft is over but so many can't let it be.

It's negative to say that "not giving a ****" about the media" and possibly underperforming will be a bad mix for the team/player?

I didn't say he WILL underperform or anything, just that an attitude like that--although more interesting than the stone-like personalities of players like Matthews & McDavid--is a double edged sword if things don't go too well.

Jets fans saw it with E.Kane while Leafs fans saw it with Kessel. In general, Canadians are weird in that if they don't perceive an athlete to be modest and respectful then they quickly turn on him.

I was originally responding to someone who said it was great to see Laine "not give a **** about the media". If he doesn't give a **** about the media AND doesn't do well on the ice then he will get torn apart. That's the simple and harsh reality of Canadian markets.

You and someone else decided to get really insecure about this, which is not my fault.

It's not again just about that, just like I yesterday wrote here you learn to see which posters only show up in Laine thread to post negative comments, most of them being Leafs fans.


And for the last part I just turned 180 what you said.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Why so sensitive if Matthews and Laine are used in the same sentence? It's ok, this is Laine thread, no one gets b-hurt here if you make comparisons between players.

Stop derailing the thread with Matthews comparisons - we've closed too many threads because people can't handle being in the same room as one another. (You, specifically, are fully aware of this.)

Are we clear?

 

[TDK67]

Its been a pretty crazy year.
The draft is over but so many can't let it be.




It's not again just about that, just like I yesterday wrote here you learn to see which posters only show up in Laine thread to post negative comments, most of them being Leafs fans.


And for the last part I just turned 180 what you said.

I said I like Laine's personality and find it more refreshing than the stone-like personalities of other top picks. On the other hand, it can be a double-edged sword because the media and culture in Canada is not the most conducive to overt-confidence and "not giving a ****" about what people think.

How is that negative?

 

[CanadienShark]

Let's start talking about what a phenomenal player Laine is, rather than debating stupid little differences in opinion.

Jets fans are lucky to have this guy. He was my favourite player of this past draft.

 

[Leafs87]

I think laine has a great career ahead of him. Probably a 40+ goal guy in his prime. I will throw a different comparison out there in Brett Hull.

 

[ijuka]

I have made the comparison a couple of times. I think it's a realistic projection for him, a perennial 35-40-goal scorer. Stylistically too, Laine is closer to Tarasenko than a guy like Ovechkin.

He might be a decent comparison. At least his stick profile is pretty similar unlike Stamkos's or Ovechkin's. However, there are still quite a few differences in their game as a whole. Overall, I don't think that a good comparison for Laine currently exists.

 

[lomiller1]

Jets fans saw it with E.Kane while Leafs fans saw it with Kessel. In general, Canadians are weird in that if they don't perceive an athlete to be modest and respectful then they quickly turn on him.

If the bar in Winnipeg is having a better off ice personality than E-Kane, Laine should have a pretty easy go of it...

BTW, for the most part Byfuglien is the closest Winnipeg comparable to Kessel in TO.

 

[TDK67]

If the bar in Winnipeg is having a better off ice personality than E-Kane, Laine should have a pretty easy go of it...

BTW, for the most part Byfuglien is the closest Winnipeg comparable to Kessel in TO.

Sorry, I don't quite follow this first part. What do you mean?

 

[BoDacious Horvat]

Sorry, I don't quite follow this first part. What do you mean?

He's saying that if Laine can keep himself out of Evander Kane levels of attitude/off ice issues, (because the previous post maybe implied that was the Winnipeg faithful's breaking point) then he should have no problems and will be fine.

But, in my experience with Jets players and fans, I don't think they'll be turning on the guy at all if he isn't acting like a "good ol' Canadian boy" he seems like a solid kid and if he performs and grows he'll be loved.

 

[TDK67]

He's saying that if Laine can keep himself out of Evander Kane levels of attitude/off ice issues, (because the previous post maybe implied that was the Winnipeg faithful's breaking point) then he should have no problems and will be fine.

But, in my experience with Jets players and fans, I don't think they'll be turning on the guy at all if he isn't acting like a "good ol' Canadian boy" he seems like a solid kid and if he performs and grows he'll be loved.

Got it. Makes sense.

I don't think there will be problems between Laine and the media/fans in Winnipeg. All I was trying to say is that "not giving a **** about the media" can potentially backfire if he or the team underachieve for a lengthy stretch. That's all.

 

[lomiller1]

Sorry, I don't quite follow this first part. What do you mean?

What’s to understand? Your post suggested Winnipeg may be a difficult place to play because Laine may receive the same type of negative response E-Kane did. Winnipeg's issues with E Kane's were almost exclusively off ice. Since having fewer off ice issues than E-Kane is going to be pretty easy for Laine to accomplish he shouldn’t have too many problems.

 

[untouchable21]

It's negative to say that "not giving a ****" about the media" and possibly underperforming will be a bad mix for the team/player?

I didn't say he WILL underperform or anything, just that an attitude like that--although more interesting than the stone-like personalities of players like Matthews & McDavid--is a double edged sword if things don't go too well.

Jets fans saw it with E.Kane while Leafs fans saw it with Kessel. In general, Canadians are weird in that if they don't perceive an athlete to be modest and respectful then they quickly turn on him.

I was originally responding to someone who said it was great to see Laine "not give a **** about the media". If he doesn't give a **** about the media AND doesn't do well on the ice then he will get torn apart. That's the simple and harsh reality of Canadian markets.

You and someone else decided to get really insecure about this, which is not my fault.

Comparing Laine to Kane is way off. WAY OFF!!!!

Laine is a smart, skilled player with confidence in his abilities to perform. Kane is nothing but an arrogant grade A ***** bag who thinks he's better than everyone. There's a difference between having personality and thinking of yourself as larger than life. If you can't figure out the difference, I don't know what to say.

And comparing the Winnipeg media to the media in the "center of the universe" is like night and day.

 

[lomiller1]

Got it. Makes sense.

I don't think there will be problems between Laine and the media/fans in Winnipeg. All I was trying to say is that "not giving a **** about the media" can potentially backfire if he or the team underachieve for a lengthy stretch. That's all.

Byfuglien makes Kessel look like a media wizard, and he’s easily the Jets most popular player. Besides, Laine seems to be really good with the media. He’s outspoken and interesting without coming off in a negative way.