LW Juraj Slafkovsky - TPS Turku, Liiga (2022, 1st, MTL) Part 2

[lomiller1]

Devils would have taken Slafkovsky at 2 if he was available. Re : Resch. Idk for Arizona.

My gut feeling is that Arizona would have taken Cooley first overall

 

[Xirik]

My gut feeling is that Arizona would have taken Cooley first overall

Think he was the only potential 1st overall player that said he would be happy to play in Arizona.

Seattle having to choose between Slafkovsky and Wright would have been interesting. Having a 1-2 center depth is nice but a Benier/Slaf line also sounds mighty sexy.

 

[Frank Drebin]

hes a bust? No big deal, not our first rodeo

 

[jfhabs]

I dont think its obvious whatsoever. I think if you even polled this forum a majority of people wouldnt list him as the highest ceiling.

Ceiling is like impossible to argue because if he doesnt reach whatever ceiling then you can always just say "oh well he didnt reach his ceiling." But if you asked most people who will be the best player from the draft, Slafkovsky or the field, I dont think many people take Slafkovsky.

That's not how it works, it's who they'd rather have to be agaisnt the field other then Slaf.... i mean every other year a player outside the 1st overall ends up better

 

[yzerman]

Think this season he is a 0,75ppg player in AHL still very young.

 

[KevSkillz4]

His skillset is very impressive. This guy with a good development, he is going to be a beast. Happy that Habs pick him 1st overall, he have great tools.

 

[FlyguyOX]

A bit funny seeing the parallels and double standards in Habs view and treatment of a young Kotkaniemi and Slaf

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I REALLY Hope MTL doesn’t rush this kid. Maybe give him the 9 game audition but I know the team is notorious for rushing their player.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

I REALLY Hope MTL doesn’t rush this kid. Maybe give him the 9 game audition but I know the team is notorious for rushing their player.

Montreal has a new managment team so I don't expect the same mistakes as before. Most Habs fans expect him to start the season in the AHL and that would be the good choice, he seems like a kid who's eager to learn and he learns fast.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Montreal has a new managment team so I don't expect the same mistakes as before. Most Habs fans expect him to start the season in the AHL and that would be the good choice, he seems like a kid who's eager to learn and he learns fast.

Agreed and that‘s the silver lining. St. Louis seems to not only understand the politics of the sport but also how to handle young players since he knew how he was treated as a young player.

 

[the paisanos guy]

A bit funny seeing the parallels and double standards in Habs view and treatment of a young Kotkaniemi and Slaf

What are the parallels and double standards in play here??

 

[gifted88]

A bit funny seeing the parallels and double standards in Habs view and treatment of a young Kotkaniemi and Slaf

I think it's fair to ask if these were the best players to pick at their respective draft positions. It's not a knock on the players, but rather the people making the selections.

If Kotkaniemi was picked later in round 1, I don't think you'd be upset with a 3rd line player. Slafkovsky looks like he'll be an NHLer, don't think many are calling him a bust unless they're joking or trolling. But if he can't grow into a top 6 role down the road the pick looks terrible.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Nothing special to this point. Pretty clearly not close to an NHL player. Likely a few years away. This could be an awful pick if he becomes a 60 point winger and Wright goes on to be a franchise player

 

[BlackEye from Xhekaj]

@HockeyVirus Great assessment after 2 preseason games Insightful! Who cares how he looks in comparison to Wright.. give the kid time.. he needs to gain confidence, learn how to time the smaller ice, and adapt to new coaches/teammates.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I wouldnt read to much into a few preseason games. So far he looks like an average 1st round pick but that can change as soon as his next game. He needs time and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[HockeyVirus]

@HockeyVirus Great assessment after 2 preseason games Insightful! Who cares how he looks in comparison to Wright.. give the kid time.. he needs to gain confidence, learn how to time the smaller ice, and adapt to new coaches/teammates.

Is he magically going to learn to skate in a few games? This is a player years away

 

[ponder]

I do think he had a poor game tonight - regularly out of position, looked slow, seemed outclassed by the many AHLers on the ice. But it was just one preseason game, and he's adjusting to the smaller ice. I won't read too much into it, a weaker performance, but it's just one pre-season game.

If, after the full pre-season and training camp, he's not looking NHL ready, hopefully the Habs don't hesitate to send him to the AHL or elsewhere for seasoning. Montreal is one of the last places where you'd want to rush a prospect, he'd get ripped on hard by Habs fans/media if he plays in the NHL before he's ready.

 

[majormajor]

Nothing special to this point. Pretty clearly not close to an NHL player. Likely a few years away. This could be an awful pick if he becomes a 60 point winger and Wright goes on to be a franchise player

I watched Shane Wright last night and he looks noticeably quicker and more energetic compared to last year but also equally if not further away from being an NHL star than Slaf is.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I do think he had a poor game tonight - regularly out of position, looked slow, seemed outclassed by the many AHLers on the ice. But it was just one preseason game, and he's adjusting to the smaller ice. I won't read too much into it, a weaker performance, but it's just one pre-season game.

If, after the full pre-season and training camp, he's not looking NHL ready, hopefully the Habs don't hesitate to send him to the AHL or elsewhere for seasoning. Montreal is one of the last places where you'd want to rush a prospect, he'd get ripped on hard by Habs fans/media if he plays in the NHL before he's ready.

I didn't see the game, just box score watching, but at least he had 4 shots. There may be something to be said for a young player having a bad game but still getting pucks to the net.

That said I wasn't that high on him - he was 6th on my final list.

 

[Xirik]

people are getting down on him after not doing great when he was on a line with Pitlick and Armia?

 

[bossram]

I didn't see the game, just box score watching, but at least he had 4 shots. There may be something to be said for a young player having a bad game but still getting pucks to the net.

That said I wasn't that high on him - he was 6th on my final list.

I was at the game. He was unnoticeable, in a bad way. The shots were just from flinging low-percentage shots on net.

It's fine. He's raw and needs more development. Montreal should leave him in Laval for the season.

people are getting down on him after not doing great when he was on a line with Pitlick and Armia?

Yeah, but the Leafs didn't exactly dress a veteran-heavy group either, and they ended up with two forwards playing defense.

 

[Wats]

Think this season he is a 0,75ppg player in AHL still very young.

I'd take that, not bad production at 18.

 

[Wats]

I didn't see the game, just box score watching, but at least he had 4 shots. There may be something to be said for a young player having a bad game but still getting pucks to the net.

That said I wasn't that high on him - he was 6th on my final list.

What was your final final list?

 

[Colezuki]

I was at the game. He was unnoticeable, in a bad way. The shots were just from flinging low-percentage shots on net.

It's fine. He's raw and needs more development. Montreal should leave him in Laval for the season.


Yeah, but the Leafs didn't exactly dress a veteran-heavy group either, and they ended up with two forwards playing defense.

Neither side did, there was no flow in the game, honestly if I wasn't hacking a lung up from this flu I had I probably would've gone for a walk.

I'll be more interested in how Camp progresses but he seems to like coming in from the top left point on the PP which fits well with our team

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

What was your final final list?

1. Cooley
2. Lambert
3. Savoie
4. Casey
5. Wright
6. Slafkovsky
7. Jiricek
8. Nemec
9. Gauthier
10. Yurov