LW Gustav Nyquist (2008, 121st overall, Detroit)

[TatarTangle]

You know his point. Nyquist impressed more in camp, he has played better in the AHL, he has already been called up. He will probably be a regular on the Wings before Tatar or Mursak.

He also doesn't have one regular season under his belt for the Griffins. Everyone knows the Wings take their time with players in the minors. The only reason Smith will be full-time next year is because Lidstrom is most likely going to retire and their hand will be forced to call Smith up.

Both Tatar and Murask have a couple seasons under their belt in Grand Rapids and can be played on the 3rd and 4th line. It's because of this I think they'll get their shot before Nyquist does, especially since Bertuzzi and Homer are probably not going to be back. I'm sure Mursak will get his shot once he comes back from his injury and I can see a rotation between him, Eaves and Miller.

But Nyquist is not going to do any good in the bottom 6, he's a top 6 player, and I think he's still a year or two in the minors away from being that player.

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

He also doesn't have one regular season under his belt for the Griffins. Everyone knows the Wings take their time with players in the minors. The only reason Smith will be full-time next year is because Lidstrom is most likely going to retire and their hand will be forced to call Smith up.

Thats a bit of a myth really. The wings let their prospects grow in the minors if they need any work on certain things. Most will spend 2-4 in the minors, but the wings top prospects rarely spend more than 1 season in the AHL. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, Kronwall. None of them spent more than 1 season in the AHL. If you're a top prospect you will be fast tracked to the wings. Nyquist will be in the wings top 6 next year unless he gets injured and regresses.

Smith could play in our defence right now, when he was called up he did not look out of place playing their. Smith will be up not because we're losing Lidstrom, we would have forced his way into the lineup

 

[TatarTangle]

Thats a bit of a myth really. The wings let their prospects grow in the minors if they need any work on certain things. Most will spend 2-4 in the minors, but the wings top prospects rarely spend more than 1 season in the AHL. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, Kronwall. None of them spent more than 1 season in the AHL. If you're a top prospect you will be fast tracked to the wings. Nyquist will be in the wings top 6 next year unless he gets injured and regresses.

Smith could play in our defence right now, when he was called up he did not look out of place playing their. Smith will be up not because we're losing Lidstrom, we would have forced his way into the lineup

I think they have to address the lack of another legitimate goal scorer in the top 6 before worrying about getting Nyquist in there. I don't think it's going to hurt keeping him in Grand Rapids for one more year with call ups. Agree to disagree I guess. Regardless, Nyquist is going to be an exciting player to watch for years to come.

 

[Konnan511]

He also doesn't have one regular season under his belt for the Griffins. Everyone knows the Wings take their time with players in the minors. The only reason Smith will be full-time next year is because Lidstrom is most likely going to retire and their hand will be forced to call Smith up.

Both Tatar and Murask have a couple seasons under their belt in Grand Rapids and can be played on the 3rd and 4th line. It's because of this I think they'll get their shot before Nyquist does, especially since Bertuzzi and Homer are probably not going to be back. I'm sure Mursak will get his shot once he comes back from his injury and I can see a rotation between him, Eaves and Miller.

But Nyquist is not going to do any good in the bottom 6, he's a top 6 player, and I think he's still a year or two in the minors away from being that player.

Next year one or two of Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Cleary, Hudler won't be here next year. There's plenty of room for Nyquist in the top six next season.

 

[Konnan511]

I think they have to address the lack of another legitimate goal scorer in the top 6 before worrying about getting Nyquist in there. I don't think it's going to hurt keeping him in Grand Rapids for one more year with call ups. Agree to disagree I guess. Regardless, Nyquist is going to be an exciting player to watch for years to come.

Aren't the Wings #2 in goals this season? Our biggest weakness is getting Cleary and Bertuzzi out of the top six and inject some speed and skill which Nyquist most certainly has

 

[newfy]

I think they have to address the lack of another legitimate goal scorer in the top 6 before worrying about getting Nyquist in there. I don't think it's going to hurt keeping him in Grand Rapids for one more year with call ups. Agree to disagree I guess. Regardless, Nyquist is going to be an exciting player to watch for years to come.

Nyquist could be a legitimate scorer if given the chance. Throw him on Datsyuks wing and hes got the skill to play there and bury on the chances Pav would give him.

Plus hes got speed and can dangle too, could help take some of the pressure off datsyuk to do everything

 

[newfy]

Well Nyquist is putting up over a point per game in his rookie year pro, with 17 goals 34 assists for 51 points in 49 games. Good enough for 8th in the AHL scoring race with most guys ahead of him having around 5 more games played.

Pretty impressive considering the griffins are a pretty crappy team and only have one other player in the top 45 in league scoring.

He'll definitely be a black ace for the wings but I wonder if he could see some playing time.

 

[Tomas W]

Well Nyquist is putting up over a point per game in his rookie year pro, with 17 goals 34 assists for 51 points in 49 games. Good enough for 8th in the AHL scoring race with most guys ahead of him having around 5 more games played.

Pretty impressive considering the griffins are a pretty crappy team and only have one other player in the top 45 in league scoring.
He'll definitely be a black ace for the wings but I wonder if he could see some playing time.

Very impressive! I hope he get some more games for the DRW.

 

[Mickey Redmond*]

Having watched him play live, he's clearly the best forward on Grand Rapids.

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Is he a lock for DRW next season?

 

[Big Ed]

Is he a lock for DRW next season?

If he's not, expect to see riots.

 

[irishtemper]

Yeah I'm pretty pissed they called up Chris Conner instead of Gus in case Bertuzzi can't play today.

 

[joe89]

Yeah I'm pretty pissed they called up Chris Conner instead of Gus in case Bertuzzi can't play today.

Not really. Would've been kinda unfair to throw him in on short notice after playing two hard-fought AHL games both Friday and Saturday. Not that I think that he would've complained about it.

 

[newfy]

Yeah I'm pretty pissed they called up Chris Conner instead of Gus in case Bertuzzi can't play today.

Griffs are making a playoff push and Nyquist is that teams offense. Chances are Conner wont even end up playing tonight and Bert will be in

 

[newfy]

Nyquist has been up for 2 games and has 2 points with the wings right now. Hes been playing with Helm and Franzen and looks kinda like Datsyuk used to.

Hes made some pretty nice dangles but you can tel hes not quite strong enough yet cause after he makes a move he'll get knocked over fairly easily.

He was sent down today for the griffins game and had a goal in that and will now be recalled for Detroits California road trip. Hes looked pretty damn good out there

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Nyquist doesn't look a thing like Datsyuk looked.
From Datsyuk's first shifts, he was doing things with the puck that were incredible, playing with Boyd Deveraux and Mathieu Dandenault as linemates.

People pimping this guy as a young datsyuk are going to be very disappointed.

I thought he looked good on a couple plays against LA.
Against Nashville, he was pretty overmatched on most shifts.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Nyquist doesn't look a thing like Datsyuk looked.
From Datsyuk's first shifts, he was doing things with the puck that were incredible, playing with Boyd Deveraux and Mathieu Dandenault as linemates.

People pimping this guy as a young datsyuk are going to be very disappointed.

I thought he looked good on a couple plays against LA.
Against Nashville, he was pretty overmatched on most shifts.

I think the shiftiness of his skating is similar, but it's maybe more accurate to say he's Filppula mixed with Zetterberg. He's got Fil's elusive speed, but Z's hockey sense. What he REALLY needs and probably will not have until next season is a decent shot. It's clear right now that he can skate and read plays and even battle a bit with the pros, but he has trouble finding the right shot.

He might have to have a Filppula type trajectory, where his coaches yell at him for 3-4 years before he really figures out how to score goals.

 

[obey86]

Has great change of direction ability with the puck and better speed than I anticipated.

 

[newfy]

I think the shiftiness of his skating is similar, but it's maybe more accurate to say he's Filppula mixed with Zetterberg. He's got Fil's elusive speed, but Z's hockey sense. What he REALLY needs and probably will not have until next season is a decent shot. It's clear right now that he can skate and read plays and even battle a bit with the pros, but he has trouble finding the right shot.

He might have to have a Filppula type trajectory, where his coaches yell at him for 3-4 years before he really figures out how to score goals.

I think hes looking to be somewhere between Filpulla and Datsyuk. Nyquist does have a shot, he had one goal this preseason where he made that really evident. He looks exactly like a Filppula with a bit more natural finish to me.

Than again, I didnt think Filppula looked as good with the puck whe nhe first came up as Nyquist does now

 

[RedWingsNow*]

I think the shiftiness of his skating is similar, but it's maybe more accurate to say he's Filppula mixed with Zetterberg. He's got Fil's elusive speed, but Z's hockey sense. What he REALLY needs and probably will not have until next season is a decent shot. It's clear right now that he can skate and read plays and even battle a bit with the pros, but he has trouble finding the right shot.

He might have to have a Filppula type trajectory, where his coaches yell at him for 3-4 years before he really figures out how to score goals.

He's got some shiftiness. I don't think he's as fast as Flip. He's not slow. He's got a nice change of pace ability. I think he's really weak though and needs to get stronger on his skates.
I think his offense will come along a little faster than Flips. I don't see him hitting the kind of numbers Datsyuk and Zetterberg hit in their peak years. But maybe along the lines of what Flip is putting up this year.

 

[NuxFan09]

Detroit just keeps drafting gems. It's not even fair. The guy is 9th in AHL scoring in his rookie year.

 

[ZetterBurger]

Detroit just keeps drafting gems. It's not even fair. The guy is 9th in AHL scoring in his rookie year.

If he develops like the Wings hope he will, Gus should become a consistent 70 point player in the NHL. It's unfair to Gus to compare him to Pavel. I think a fair comparison would be Filppula, but he seems a little further along in his development than Flip was.

He has a knack for getting the puck and then holding onto it. Watching the Nashville game, he would just be about to complete his move and separate himself from a defender and would get outmuscled at the last second. Something I like about him offensively is he initiates contact on a lot of his moves. He isn't just trying to dangle his way by, so in that respect he reminds me of Z. But he, like these other players has his own style/flair to his game.

At any rate, he fits the team in Detroit and I don't expect any trouble transferring to the NHL other than getting stronger. I would like to see him get a fair chance at 82 games next year.

 

[ZetterBurger]

He's got some shiftiness. I don't think he's as fast as Flip. He's not slow. He's got a nice change of pace ability. I think he's really weak though and needs to get stronger on his skates.
I think his offense will come along a little faster than Flips. I don't see him hitting the kind of numbers Datsyuk and Zetterberg hit in their peak years. But maybe along the lines of what Flip is putting up this year.

That's a good assessment of him. The bold I especially agree with and think that should be a huge part of his game. You don't need that top end speed to be so high if you can get a defenseman off balance by changing speeds, but if Helm's top speed is a 10 I would give him a 7 right now.

 

[HTT3*]

Since when did Datsyuk start wearing #14?

 

[RedWingsNow*]

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