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LW Anthony Mantha - Val d'Or, QMJHL (2013, 20th overall, Detroit)

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nice goal Mantha

pass from Marcotte in Mantha's skates, brings it back, dekes the goalie and scores in an open net

Remparts not really in it outside of the 5 on 3. Val d'Or playing much better hockey than they did against Rouyn. Good game by Bouchard. With that kind of goaltending Val d'Or would be much higher in the standings.
 
If they slotted Mantha in for ciampini/meier/any chump they put with Drouin & Ashley, it would make an absolutely filthy top6

Mantha - Drouin - Ashley
Ehlers - Andrews - Ryan

still really doubt Halifax lands him

Coincidentally, he's playing against Halifax tonight, has an assist through 1
 
Brandel said:
If they slotted Mantha in for ciampini/meier/any chump they put with Drouin & Ashley, it would make an absolutely filthy top6

Mantha - Drouin - Ashley
Ehlers - Andrews - Ryan

still really doubt Halifax lands him

Coincidentally, he's playing against Halifax tonight, has an assist through 1
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Would looooove to see it, but not holding my breath.
 
Another couple points tonight. Whats that now? 43 points in 17 games lol?

I know he has stuff to work on but tearing a league up that much could see him get time with the wings if his Junior team is eliminated early. Especially because hes not your typical small player the wings draft in late rounds
 
He is on pace for 130 points in 50 games. Higher than Mac and Droin last year.
 
thomashefe said:
who are both better prospects. useless to compare his pace to players in their draft year.
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I wonder how Mantha would do with Drouin/Frk or MacKinnon/Frk as his linemates...

... BTW, Mantha's currently destroying Drouin production-wise, this year.
 
Wingsfan2965 said:
I wonder how Mantha would do with Drouin/Frk or MacKinnon/Frk as his linemates...

... BTW, Mantha's currently destroying Drouin production-wise, this year.
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which implies what? it almost seems like youre hinting that mantha is a better prospect than drouin.
 
Wingsfan2965 said:
I wonder how Mantha would do with Drouin/Frk or MacKinnon/Frk as his linemates...

... BTW, Mantha's currently destroying Drouin production-wise, this year.
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Not by much though, Drouin has 23 points in 12 games, which is almost 2 PPG. And he had some injuries this season.
 
Mentioning Mantha in the same breath as Drouin or Mackinnon is laughable, setting yourself up for massive disappointment. Watch the kids play instead of watching the scoresheet.
 
Wingsfan2965 said:
I wonder how Mantha would do with Drouin/Frk or MacKinnon/Frk as his linemates...

... BTW, Mantha's currently destroying Drouin production-wise, this year.
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Mantha is playing out of this world and is one of my favorite prospects, but why the hell are you comparing him to Drouin and Mack's draft year stats? They're two different years and ages.
 
Rambonator said:
Not by much though, Drouin has 23 points in 12 games, which is almost 2 PPG. And he had some injuries this season.
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12 goals and 16 points in 3 extra games is the definition of a lot.

Mantha's not a better prospect/player, but saying it isn't by much is just silly.
 
newfy said:
Another couple points tonight. Whats that now? 43 points in 17 games lol?

I know he has stuff to work on but tearing a league up that much could see him get time with the wings if his Junior team is eliminated early. Especially because hes not your typical small player the wings draft in late rounds
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You're dreaming if you think he'd get a call up. Which, he shouldnt.
 
thomashefe said:
which implies what? it almost seems like youre hinting that mantha is a better prospect than drouin.
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It implies that I put the "Can't compare this year to those guys draft years" to rest by comparing it to Drouin's current year. (I made no comparison to MacKinnon at all, so I don't know why anybody thinks I did...)

There's a lot more to the game than just points and Mantha has a lot to work on, I'm not saying he's better than either of them at all, but you made the point and I countered it.

Rambonator said:
Not by much though, Drouin has 23 points in 12 games, which is almost 2 PPG. And he had some injuries this season.
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Not much at all. Just 20 points.

bullocks said:
You're dreaming if you think he'd get a call up. Which, he shouldnt.
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Not even close. Not with Nyquist still in GR and Pulkkinen and Jurco playing well.
 
bullocks said:
You're dreaming if you think he'd get a call up. Which, he shouldnt.
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Guys like Sheahan and Abdelkader got games with the wings after their college years were done. What do all three have in common? Theyre all big, Babcock loves size. At 6'5 if Mantha keeps up this production why shouldnt he get a look in the last couple games of the season if they arent battling for a playoff spot?

Also I'm not going to say hes a better prospect than Drouin because he isnt, but seeing him outproduce Drouin's numbers with a pretty solid sized gap is very promising considering he isnt on an amazing team
 
Rambonator said:
Not by much though, Drouin has 23 points in 12 games, which is almost 2 PPG. And he had some injuries this season.
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If Drouin played the same number of games as Mantha he would have 33 points, a lot behind Mantha. And Drouin plays on a much better team.*

*None of this implies that Mantha is a better prospect than Drouin
 
thomashefe said:
you could say that about anyone. not even worth typing.
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Ok, maybe I should have said that perhaps it's not "Laughable" to compare Mantha to someone like Drouin. After all, on the same platform and on a worse team, Mantha is outscoring him. Is he better? Probably not, but I doubt he's that far behind.
 
the banks said:
If Drouin played the same number of games as Mantha he would have 33 points, a lot behind Mantha. And Drouin plays on a much better team.*

*None of this implies that Mantha is a better prospect than Drouin
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Mantha is the type of player who has no business playing in the CHL anymore. I said it before the draft and I'll say it again. He was one of 3-5 guys who are only going to really grow as a player playing at the NHL level. His pure skill, power, etc, cannot grow playing against lower competition where guys like Domi and Drouin can grow, get stronger, etc.

Mantha needs to play against better competition to get better. Whether or not he is or will be a better player than Drouin is an argument that can definitely be made. Drouin played on a line with Frk and Mackinnon last year. Put Mantha on that wing and see what he produced and see where he would've been drafted.

Drouin is one of my favorite prospects in a long time but there is an argument to be made. Mantha should translate well into the National league pretty quickly where Drouin might take a little longer. If Detroit didnt have the depth and roster problems they have, I would bet, even Holland and Babcock would've kept him up, spot played him, etc, rather than send him down. With his size and skill set, the sky is the limit for Mantha.
 
Stoneberg said:
Mentioning Mantha in the same breath as Drouin or Mackinnon is laughable, setting yourself up for massive disappointment. Watch the kids play instead of watching the scoresheet.
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Does Drouin really bring that much outside of dynamic offense? I was under the impression he did not.

Anyway, I think the point here is that Drouin is supposed to be worlds better than Mantha, but yet it doesn't seem like that's the case this season. I think Drouin is better for sure, but there's a lot to like about a 6'5 guy who's a good skater and is destroying his league in scoring. It's reasonable to look back now and ask how big the gap between Mantha and everybody else really was.
 
Guru Meditation said:
Does Drouin really bring that much outside of dynamic offense? I was under the impression he did not.

Anyway, I think the point here is that Drouin is supposed to be worlds better than Mantha, but yet it doesn't seem like that's the case this season. I think Drouin is better for sure, but there's a lot to like about a 6'5 guy who's a good skater and is destroying his league in scoring. It's reasonable to look back now and ask how big the gap between Mantha and everybody else really was.
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Keeping with a Red Wings theme, it's kind of like looking at Franzen vs Datsyuk/Zetterberg at the surface level. Franzen is huge, very fast for his size, and scores as many (if not more) goals as Dats/Zetts, certainly uses his size to his advantage much more than either of them. But... you wouldn't give up either of them 1 for 1 to get Franzen because of how their skills contribute to a 200 ft possession/transition game, AND that dynamic offense, and skills that require little time/space to make things happen.

Now I'm certainly not attributing Selke-type defense to Drouin, nor am I calling him an accomplished centre yet, for that matter. But if we're talking about projections, and since we're directly referring to the draft I guess we are, then that's the kind of thing that you have to consider in today's game.
 
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