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LW Anthony Mantha - Val d'Or, QMJHL (2013, 20th overall, Detroit)

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Even as a wings fan I think the should of gone top 5 talks are whack, those guys are all playing in the NHL. His pace will cool of quite a bit, he will still put up a lot of points and possibly lead the Q but some of the hype is a little much.


First pointless game of the season for Mantha, few nice plays but Charlottetown did a good job not letting him shoot, others got plenty of opportunities for Val- d'Or but couldn't finish.
 
MBauer said:
Even as a wings fan I think the should of gone top 5 talks are whack, those guys are all playing in the NHL. His pace will cool of quite a bit, he will still put up a lot of points and possibly lead the Q but some of the hype is a little much.


First pointless game of the season for Mantha, few nice plays but Charlottetown did a good job not letting him shoot, others got plenty of opportunities for Val- d'Or but couldn't finish.
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Yeah. That top five stuff isn't really registering with me either. Right now anyways. If he continues to develop well I suppose he could work his way in, but he has no business there right now.

Top 10, probably.
 
big kids who dominate much smaller competition at the jr levels should be taken with a grain of salt, i want to see how he performs with a more level physical playing field
 
KEEROLE Vatanen said:
big kids who dominate much smaller competition at the jr levels should be taken with a grain of salt, i want to see how he performs with a more level physical playing field
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Okay you're completely ignoring the fact that Mantha is only going to get stronger, he is still pretty skinny for his height, Mantha was a late bloomer as well. Using his size really isn't a big part of his game anyways.

That Mario Lemieux was a bum, big guy dominating all those tiny Q players, never could do anything in the nhl :sarcasm:.
 
KEEROLE Vatanen said:
big kids who dominate much smaller competition at the jr levels should be taken with a grain of salt, i want to see how he performs with a more level physical playing field
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In the Q it's usually the smaller skilled players you need to take with a grain of salt. Mantha already has a big frame and will continue to get stronger.

Very excited to see him in action tonight.
 
MBauer said:
Okay you're completely ignoring the fact that Mantha is only going to get stronger, he is still pretty skinny for his height, Mantha was a late bloomer as well. Using his size really isn't a big part of his game anyways.

That Mario Lemieux was a bum, big guy dominating all those tiny Q players, never could do anything in the nhl :sarcasm:.
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Hate to say it man but your post lost all integrity with the Lemieux comparison.

And of course he uses his size to his advantage, especially at the junior level. Most great goalscorers have size as one of their main assets in order to get to the good areas for scoring opportunities.

It's not a bad thing.
 
MBauer said:
Okay you're completely ignoring the fact that Mantha is only going to get stronger, he is still pretty skinny for his height, Mantha was a late bloomer as well. Using his size really isn't a big part of his game anyways.

That Mario Lemieux was a bum, big guy dominating all those tiny Q players, never could do anything in the nhl :sarcasm:.
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He was impressive at the Wings' camp and preseason.
 
MBauer said:
Even as a wings fan I think the should of gone top 5 talks are whack, those guys are all playing in the NHL. His pace will cool of quite a bit, he will still put up a lot of points and possibly lead the Q but some of the hype is a little much.


First pointless game of the season for Mantha, few nice plays but Charlottetown did a good job not letting him shoot, others got plenty of opportunities for Val- d'Or but couldn't finish.
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Agreed about the top 5/10 talk. It's far to early to be talking about it as almost everyone drafted ahead of him is also off to a good start. Not only that but we all knew that Mantha could score when he was drafted what we want to see is him continue to develop his defensive game & become more consistent on a night in night basis.

If he finishes the year with a 1.75-2 point per game while improving his defensive deficiencies then I could see him being in the discussion for top 5/10 in a re-draft.
 
Wingsfan2965 said:
Yeah. That top five stuff isn't really registering with me either. Right now anyways. If he continues to develop well I suppose he could work his way in, but he has no business there right now.

Top 10, probably.
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The only conclusion we can really draw is that Mantha is capable of playing at a very, very high level for his age. It's definitely a good sign, but he needs to show more before anybody is converted.
 
Patmac40 said:
1 assist but been a ghost except his 3 penalties
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i found at the game he just did not show up, showed his great skating but I found he was losing the puck when handling it on the fly, he was taking bad penalties....he just did not look good at all in the game....
 
scoutman1 said:
i found at the game he just did not show up, showed his great skating but I found he was losing the puck when handling it on the fly, he was taking bad penalties....he just did not look good at all in the game....
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Agreed. Personally, he looked disintrested even on the PP. He showed intensity on 2 of the penalties he took...but not the intensity you want.
 
Patmac40 said:
1 assist but been a ghost except his 3 penalties
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Other than winning a couple of faceoffs, I'm struggling to think of anything to write home about for either him or Sille, which is kinda disappointing. I'm going to have to check to see if either of them got credit for a shot (Mantha had at least one, but I can't think of another unless I missed it). Mooseheads shut down everyone pretty well tonight.
 
Yeah he didn't seem like anything special to me tonight (doesn't mean that he isn't!).

He played his best game during the last few minutes of the game. He's pretty skinny, too.
 
Ohashi_Jouzu said:
Other than winning a couple of faceoffs, I'm struggling to think of anything to write home about for either him or Sille, which is kinda disappointing. I'm going to have to check to see if either of them got credit for a shot (Mantha had at least one, but I can't think of another unless I missed it). Mooseheads shut down everyone pretty well tonight.
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Yup. The most I saw out of Sille was him winning a draw right in front of me and then he busted himself off the ice.

John Moore did an interview with Mantha.

 
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MBauer said:
Okay you're completely ignoring the fact that Mantha is only going to get stronger, he is still pretty skinny for his height, Mantha was a late bloomer as well. Using his size really isn't a big part of his game anyways.

That Mario Lemieux was a bum, big guy dominating all those tiny Q players, never could do anything in the nhl :sarcasm:.
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I'm not saying the guy is gonna suck, hes obviously skilled but he's bigger than most players in that league and is not facing grown men on NHL bluelines. Need to see how he does in the AHL before I buy in completely
 
KEEROLE Vatanen said:
I'm not saying the guy is gonna suck, hes obviously skilled but he's bigger than most players in that league and is not facing grown men on NHL bluelines. Need to see how he does in the AHL before I buy in completely
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AHL means nothing either then, Daniel Cleary scored 80 points in 58 games in the AHL. No point in disregarding a league for another league that isn't the NHL.
 
That's almost 3 ppg he's at. It's amazing. Is the rest of his team really good or is he doing most of it on his own.
 
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