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Not last night but season so far our top 6 are all scoring reasonably well - except Wheeler.
Apart from a little by Roslovic and Perreault, our bottom 6 is not scoring at all.
Overall, this team needs to score more.
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Not last night but season so far our top 6 are all scoring reasonably well - except Wheeler.
Apart from a little by Roslovic and Perreault, our bottom 6 is not scoring at all.
Overall, this team needs to score more.
Yep, last 4 games CSW 3 GF and 7 GA in ES. That's brutal.
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Still, its a small aspect of nothing truly ailing us. We have a young green defense missing its biggest piece. Scheif and Wheeler's usage is not going to fix that. And while no one is McDavid, Scheif is the closest thing we have to him, and should be getting the minutes he is getting.
For the amount of gab this gets on this forum, you would think its something of a much larger nature, and it isnt. 4 less minutes a night is not fixing anything that is truly ailing us right now. Its just a way of connecting the losses to the coach for some on here that are unable to truly analyze a game.
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A piece of Little's helmet fell to the ice on the replay , i'm hoping the helmet took the brunt of the shot . You could clearly see Ehlers was upset at the bench , obviously not his fault but you would still feel terrible for being the one that shot the puck .
I’ll never understand how the players can play the game without a full face mask...
I agree with you but Maurice has to be more open to separating Scheif and Wheeler . Like i said earlier , if Maurice could separate Scheif and Wheeler and make 2 good lines he should at least try it for a couple of games not 1 period . Especially when they are getting nothing going together like last night for 2 periods .
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And if and when we get to a point that coaching is not moving the meter, on a stable team with a stable roster, then act accordingly.
If anyone considers this year to be stable, your out to lunch. No coach is going unaffected by the amount of crap this roster has endured since this season started.
But the effort that goes into painting this as a Maurice problem is beyond stupid while a complete and utter ignorance to the plethora of issues Maurice has had to coach under.
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100% with you on that, wanted them separated last season. Its an issue, but its not a massive issue that is plaguing this team. The 100 other issues that have hit this team hard are completely swept under the rug by some.
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It was a boring game, but to compare it to Habs-Bruins in emotional investment is wrong to me.
And you're kidding yourself if you don't believe that guys like Weber, Domi and Drouin don't care about the rivalries of the past. That's how they stay rivalries.
Totally agree , we have 2 defensemen playing that were here last season and one is Kulikov .
Perhaps those posters feel that the Jets have the talent up front to win games in spite of those "100" other issues and constantly playing 81-55-26 despite their struggles is not maximizing the strength of the team's top six.
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Poor Little , the guy just can't catch a break this season with injuries . Hope he's back soon .
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While I think many overstate the importance of the coach on an in game basis like this, 4 minutes is huge. We saw last season how big an impact reducing Buff's minutes from 27 to 23 had on him - he looked way better with a bit less ice time. When you talk about 4 minutes of ice time, that's often most of what the 4th line gets, so it's nothing to scoff at.
You can say the defence is green and that's impacting results, and it probably is to a degree, but the D from January onwards last season wasn't green and they looked just as bad. The forward group is largely unchanged and they look the same, if not worse.
I think they just need a new message, a shakeup, and the coach is the best way to do that. No excuse for playing Scheifele and Wheeler 5 more minutes a night that your second line. I understand Scheifele might have had a bit more last night because they went down a C, but it's not that unusual for that to be the case.
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Super scary play, one of those that makes you feel sick, especially just coming off a concussion. Nice to see the Jets PR give us transparency with this injury. Hoping the Neurological observation stuff is all precautionary and he is able to bounce back quickly. Jets can't catch a break this year.
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I think we all could tell it was an "upper body" injury, so they felt silly saying that. I just hope that they don't say that he's "day to day" for five months.
I've gone through the exact same thing in regards to St.B first and then HSC after , it sucks big time . Hope he's back soon .
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hopefully he has a speedy and uneventful recovery, and can get back to playing and proving to naysayers that he is still a pretty good 2C.
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Just looking at this one game in context. I felt that this was one Ehlers worst games. He looked slow tonight. Out of the top 6 in general I thought Wheeler,Laine and Little were good. Scheif and Connor Meh and Ehlers poor. The bottom 6 was good because this type of game suited them and they scored our only goal.
I do think that scoring is why we haven't won more games. A lot of that has to do with the poor PP. Some of it has do with the green defense. Some of it has do with coaching. Some of it has do with the players.
What I find is there is a lack of effort to get to the front of the net on our top 2 lines in general. They play perimeter hockey and unless we get high quality shooting chances most of our shots are pretty easy to save. Both goals from both teams were the result of someone being in front of the net either to tip it in or to pick up a rebound.
I do think that scoring is why we haven't won more games. A lot of that has to do with the poor PP. Some of it has do with the green defense. Some of it has do with coaching. Some of it has do with the players.
What I find is there is a lack of effort to get to the front of the net on our top 2 lines in general. They play perimeter hockey and unless we get high quality shooting chances most of our shots are pretty easy to save. Both goals from both teams were the result of someone being in front of the net either to tip it in or to pick up a rebound.
Just wanted to say that I was super happy when PoMo put out 3 forwards in OT. We should do this all the time. There's no need to play a D as it's just man to man coverage. Go for the win!!! It didn't work out this time but I'm glad that its on the coaches radar. Ehlers, Connor, Roslovic in OT. So fast. Laine, Sheif, Wheeler. Scary for the other team.
Points in 3 straight games!!! Helle is playing great!!! Our goal scoring will come with the forwards that we have. Lets go on a run here boys!!!!
I'm relieved Bryan seems like he's going to be alright. It's tough to have another head injury coming back off the concussion.
Points in 3 straight games!!! Helle is playing great!!! Our goal scoring will come with the forwards that we have. Lets go on a run here boys!!!!
I'm relieved Bryan seems like he's going to be alright. It's tough to have another head injury coming back off the concussion.
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Pretty good game actually - for a 3rd line winger.
It isn't that Wheeler is "bad". He isn't good enough for the position he holds, 1RW, captain of the team, etc.
It is past time for ESL, CLW.
I'm concerned with Little. He is just recovered from a pretty bad concussion. The last thing he needed now was another blow to the head.
If he is out, and I am assuming he will be, it is time for Rosie's chance at 2C.
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I understand playing top line players.
If so
Scheifele
Laine
Ehlers
Should get the most minutes.
But also i dont see for this forward group to be icing basically a 1 line team. Why?
Jets are deep enough at forward to be able to roll at least 3 lines when all are healthy. 4 against weaker teams.
You roll your line 1 a ridiculous 24mins of ice time. If you have no choice.
If so
Scheifele
Laine
Ehlers
Should get the most minutes.
But also i dont see for this forward group to be icing basically a 1 line team. Why?
Jets are deep enough at forward to be able to roll at least 3 lines when all are healthy. 4 against weaker teams.
You roll your line 1 a ridiculous 24mins of ice time. If you have no choice.
We have a fantastic neurology dept. in the city , from experience, Little will get great care .
Playing the Scheifele line less doesn’t solve the defensive issues, but it would almost certainly improve the level of play on the ice to some measurable degree. So because it won’t solve ALL the problems, it’s not a failing of the coaching staff?
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