Post-Game Talk: Losing sucks but we’re still tied 1-1

[rboomercat90]

We got 1 penalty in 7 periods. Not counting the too many men or lol the call after the game was done. While they're getting these kinds of calls:

Kinda looked like Nurse “got his nose”. I know that game is terrifying for kids. The video wasn’t long enough to see if he showed him too. For that reason alone it probably should be a penalty.

 

[nabob]

Also please for the love of God stop with the buttonhooks in the offensive zone. Slowing down the game is exactly what Dallas wants.

The only player who this works for is Drai, because he’s able to protect the puck and usually get it to a trailing player for a good look. The rest just lose the ensuing puck battle and don’t actually get the puck deep.

 

[MoontoScott]

Anyone notice that the “flip the puck up high to land in the neutral zone to hopefully make the defense make a mistake” play is happening more?

Feels like it happens a lot in all the game I’ve
seen in the playoffs.

Sure, because its a way of penetrating the zone and not facing a forest of sticks.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

4-5 in playoffs at home is not a "tough buildling". lol In what way is it difficult for playoff opponents to play in Dallas?. Dallas prefer to play on the road. Its this one point you seem not to follow. You make comments about mental midgits and yet it was you that made some strange point about "historically the Oilers have trouble with Dallas" Several of the players didn't even know that history before the series and weren't even born. Of course none of the current Oilers would even be impacted by what the historical record between teams had been. They wouldn't even have looked at that.

I called Oilers in 7 before series started and nothing I've seen thus far changes that. I said it was imperative for the Oilers to get the game 1 win, absolutely necessary because Dallas have been shit in game ones, poor at home, and didn't have Hintz or Hakanpaa in lineup.

Dallas is a tough building. There's no easy night with their team. They still grind their way to win series even with their vulnerability. As for Edmonton v. Dallas, in the McDavid era of past decade Dallas has won just about more than double in head to head games. The players to a man will tell you it's a tough building to win in and that Dallas has been a real nemesis. Historically in even broader context the Oiler record against Dallas is one of the franchise's worst. Then there's also the playoff history.

Creating fictional narratives about a home team's ice surface is just strange. Of course the Oilers needed to capitalize without Hinz and even Hakanpaa.

I picked the Oilers in 6. And as we discussed last series ... It's a long road to the top if you want to rock 'n' roll. Toughest trophy to win in sports never comes easy. Hard to see it but this team could also reset and grind away. But chasing the puck by losing face-offs all series has hurt their ability to establish their game.

Huge, amazing, stupendous, gritty, all can apply from my pov with Oilers going home from a tough building with a split. Glass half full stuff.

Yep. Its also probable, as another poster had mentioned that the playing of LaBamba at end was a playful swipe at the Oilers playing it, and without knowing why the Oilers play it. I doubt Dallas DJ would be aware why we play it. There would be countless events, tragedy, or significant personal passings in Dallas we would know nothing about. So I think its reasonable to surmise this is just done in not knowing.

This we can agree on.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Dallas is a tough building.


This we can agree on.

Are there rats in the building? lol. How is it a tough building to play in. Still asking that and you go on and on about something else. Dallas is a southern market that barely cares about hockey that needs a jumboscreen to know when to cheer and stupidly chant Skinner when puck is in their own zone in a game where Skinner is playing very well. lol

Its hardly even like playing a road game. Quiet crowd, very little atmosphere. They need laser light show and piped in noise even to make it sound hyped or loud. Most of the fans there are people that couldn't get tickets to Mavs games.

Rogers Place is a tough building to play in. Lots of atmosphere, crowd energy, good ice, and in the playoffs that place is jumping. Dallas be nothing like that.

Dallas actually prefer our ice and did in the bubble play ins when they had their most success with current roster players going to the final.

What is fictional about the Dallas ice surface being crap in +38C weather with high humidity? Again not even Dallas players prefer that ice. Its impossible to have good ice with that temp and humidity.

The playoff history is a narrative that means zero to either club. They wouldn't even think about it. Only fans and media pay attention to that. Speaking of narrative fiction.

Boston Gahdens. The Forum, Chicago Stadium, MSG, those are/were some tough buildings to play in. Dallas Arena, it ain't nothing.

anyhoo

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Looks like Rico is back next game. I wonder about Hintz

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Drai bucked the trend to the cookie cutter blondes most players seem to date/marry. She's something else...he

Skinner and Nuge went with brunettes too. Absolute angelic looking women too

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Are there rats in the building? lol. How is it a tough building to play in. Still asking that and you go on and on about something else. Dallas is a southern market that barely cares about hockey that needs a jumboscreen to know when to cheer and stupidly chant Skinner when puck is in their own zone in a game where Skinner is playing very well. lol

Its hardly even like playing a road game. Quiet crowd, very little atmosphere. They need laser light show and piped in noise even to make it sound hyped or loud. Most of the fans there are people that couldn't get tickets to Mavs games.

Rogers Place is a tough building to play in. Lots of atmosphere, crowd energy, good ice, and in the playoffs that place is jumping. Dallas be nothing like that.

Dallas actually prefer our ice and did in the bubble play ins when they had their most success with current roster players.

What is fictional about the Dallas ice surface being crap in +38C weather with high humidity? Again not even Dallas players prefer that ice. Its impossible to have good ice with that temp and humidity.

The playoff history is a narrative that means zero to either club. They wouldn't even think about it. Only fans and media pay attention to that. Speaking of narrative fiction.

Boston Gahdens. The Forum, Chicago Stadium, MSG, those are/were some tough buildings to play in. Dallas Arena, it ain't nothing.

anyhoo

I thought it was pretty clear referencing the Oilers record against Dallas during the McDavid era and broader historic context that Dallas is one of the worst head to head opponents. The team is one of the most successful franchises against Edmonton.

I'm sure the players don't care about the fan component. They're locked in on beating a team that's been hard to beat. The rest is all white noise. Drop the puck and control what you can control. As you say, fans make random statements about things like ice surfaces.

 

[Zerotonine]

Looks like Rico is back next game. I wonder about Hintz

As long as he takes macloed place I have no issues

 

[bellagiobob]

I’ll include @Drivesaitl in this as well...but have the Stars ever used it as a “win” song before last night?

Whether it was just in good fun or deliberate slap in the face, all I’m saying is I hope the players take it personally and use it as even more motivation to shitkick the Stars.

Their DJ said that during the year he’s played other teams winning songs after Stars wins, and had no idea on the history of our song. He apologized and said he wouldn’t play it again. All good.

 

[Pavel10]

"Explaining to their kids why they couldn't get Mav's tickets" I lol spit coffee. haha, good line.

Its like parents take their 5yr olds to the watch party views here because they cost only 5bucks and the kid asks where are the real players on ice and the parent says something like"this is new A1 version of sports. Enjoy the game, you want another popcorn"

Yeah difference in Dallas you can take your 5 year old to a stars game for 5 bucks.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Their DJ said that during the year he’s played other teams winning songs after Stars wins, and had no idea on the history of our song. He apologized and said he wouldn’t play it again. All good.

That’s cool of him to own it and apologize. Fair enough, honest mistake.

But still use it as motivation

 

[RegDunlop]

Their DJ said that during the year he’s played other teams winning songs after Stars wins, and had no idea on the history of our song. He apologized and said he wouldn’t play it again. All good.

Well done by him.
And I can take shit if nec - still think it was a good attempted slam

 

[McTedi]

Hmm
Never considered that. You may have a point there.
I think Darnell has to accept his position, and limitations. He has many skills to rely on when not trying to do too much.

He has to figure that out, and us fans have to accept his salary (not his fault) and figure out how to accent his positives and cheer for him. If that can't be accomplished, mngt should consider moving him.

That is really the fly in the ointment however, he has played himself into a untradeable position. He may be unhappy with his minutes but his play is undeserving of more. I think he still sees himself as the Oiler's franchise number 1 dman and he clearly isn't. I think any trade involving Nurse, the Oilers eat massive salary retention or lose key assets. Hoping he can figure himself out, but remain doubtful.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I thought it was pretty clear referencing the Oilers record against Dallas during the McDavid era and broader historic context that Dallas is one of the worst head to head opponents. The team is one of the most successful franchises against Edmonton.

I'm sure the players don't care about the fan component. They're locked in on beating a team that's been hard to beat. The rest is all white noise. Drop the puck and control what you can control. As you say, fans make random statements about things like ice surfaces.

Oilers are 3W in last 5 games in Dallas. They have 5 Wins in last 9 games there. Considering what Dallas are, generally as a competitive side the Oilers don't have any particular problem winning there.

Again if you draw on long ago data sets or in Chiarelli bombed out era Oilers clubs then the Oilers had trouble basically everywhere. Last few seasons it hasn't been difficult in Dallas.

Sorry if I'm just too much a word person and narrowing in on semantics. Dallas arena has primarily been tough for Dallas in this playoffs. heh. Its been mostly good fortune for other clubs.

Heres something to consider that maybe gets a point across in different way. Dallas are 9-6-1 in playoffs thus far. A full 5 of those losses occurring at home. Oddly, its been the prime spot to beat the Dallas Stars. I expected no less than a spilt in Dallas. had to have at least that.

 

[Shibumi]

This game was a missed opportunity.

It is part of the learning process and I hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass.

 

[bellagiobob]

That’s cool of him to own it and apologize. Fair enough, honest mistake.

But still use it as motivation

And he donated to Ben’s fund and encouraged Stars fans to do likewise. Seems like a good dude.

 

[RegDunlop]

Oilers are 3W in last 5 games in Dallas. They have 5 Wins in last 9 games there. Considering what Dallas are, generally as a competitive side the Oilers don't have any particular problem winning there.

Again if you draw on long ago data sets or in Chiarelli bombed out era Oilers clubs then the Oilers had trouble basically everywhere. Last few seasons it hasn't been difficult in Dallas.

Sorry if I'm just too much a word person and narrowing in on semantics. Dallas arena has primarily been tough for Dallas in this playoffs. heh. Its been mostly good fortune for other clubs.

Heres something to consider that maybe gets a point across in different way. Dallas are 9-6-1 in playoffs thus far. A full 5 of those losses occurring at home. Oddly, its been the prime spot to beat the Dallas Stars.

And he donated to Ben’s fund and encouraged Stars fans to do likewise. Seems like a good dude.

Really?
That's kind of impressive. Good on him.

But i'll still send him my condolences when he has to play Little River Band at the end of game 5 for his own team.

Oh yeah... you all know the tume

 

[McTedi]

This game was a missed opportunity.

It is part of the learning process and I hope it doesn't come back to bite us in the ass.

Why a missed opportunity, were they ripe for the picking? They were missing Hintz I guess. Dallas is a good team, this will be a tough series. I'd be overjoyed if we had won both in Dallas but I didn't expect that outcome. I think the Oilers threw everything they had at them in the first and then faded as the game wore on. I still believe the Oilers will win the series but fully expect it to take 6 or 7 games.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Could you imagine playing the Flyers again in the final and, with AI, have Kate Smith sing Oh Canada at Rogers.
OOOO that might provoke a reaction from Broad Street!

They cancelled Kate Smith. She no longer exists.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Why a missed opportunity, were they ripe for the picking? They were missing Hintz I guess. Dallas is a good team, this will be a tough series. I'd be overjoyed if we had won both in Dallas but I didn't expect that outcome. I think the Oilers threw everything they had at them in the first and then faded as the game wore on. I still believe the Oilers will win the series but fully expect it to take 6 or 7 games.

Next imperative is winning game 3. Would be a big mistake to trail in series. If we should get game 3 then Game 4 will be everything.

 

[McHelpus]

Friedman saying the refs aren't going budge in terms of reffing. Dallas has apparently earned the respect of the refs for being the least penalized team in the regular season lol... it'll be just like how we played the Avs, Knights, now Stars.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Oilers are 3W in last 5 games in Dallas. They have 5 Wins in last 9 games there. Considering what Dallas are, generally as a competitive side the Oilers don't have any particular problem winning there.

Again if you draw on long ago data sets or in Chiarelli bombed out era Oilers clubs then the Oilers had trouble basically everywhere. Last few seasons it hasn't been difficult in Dallas.

Sorry if I'm just too much a word person and narrowing in on semantics. Dallas arena has primarily been tough for Dallas in this playoffs. heh. Its been mostly good fortune for other clubs.

Heres something to consider that maybe gets a point across in different way. Dallas are 9-6-1 in playoffs thus far. A full 5 of those losses occurring at home. Oddly, its been the prime spot to beat the Dallas Stars.

It's all good. I only care about the Oilers record in and against Dallas.

• The Stars and the Oilers last faced each other in the playoffs in the 2003 Conference Quarterfinals (W, 4-2), the last in a series of six meetings in seven seasons from 1997-2003. The Stars earned a 5-1 series record over that span and have a 6-2 series record against the Oilers overall, going 27-15 in 42 games prior to the start of this series.
• Dallas Record against the Oilers 79-48-23 Overall | 45-20-11 Home | 34-28-12 Road

I've outlined several reasons winning in Dallas has been important. It's their first Final 4 win in the McDavid era; they got goaltending that matched the other guy's; they got excellent team defending; have thrived in low scoring games and had a chance to win the second game; PK is light's out; depth scoring has been solid (another perceived weakness like goaltending and defense). And they won following a gruelling, physical 7 game series against Vancouver.

All are positive signs with this team going hope with a tied series against the Western Conference's best team. Areas of concern that been answered ... at least early. Oil are even with a franchise that historically is very tough for them to beat.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Friedman saying the refs aren't going budge in terms of reffing. Dallas has apparently earned the respect of the refs for being the least penalized team in the regular season lol... it'll be just like how we played the Avs, Knights, now Stars.

Ironically I said exactly this, including the part about the Stars, during the offseason just before I was cancelled.

 

[McHelpus]

Ironically I said exactly this, including the part about the Stars, during the offseason just before I was cancelled.

What do you suggest the Oilers do to overcome this? Would making this a physical series force dallas to change how they play? If we go back to last year against Vegas, we almost had them broken until Nurse retaliated.