Post-Game Talk: Los Angeles Kings @ New York Rangers |Game 3| 6/9/14

[Xref]

I think Richards' quote is being taken out of context. I think he's trying to tell his team that there is AT LEAST one more game to play, that this isn't over yet. I could be wrong though.

 

[yrrebbor]

It's a shame Hap Day isn't still alive to give them a pep talk.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Agreed. The Kings can score goals through deflections, rebounds, and tip-ins. They always have at least one forward planted in the crease to obstruct Hank's line of sight. The Rangers net presence has been inconsistent at best and they have struggled to convert on rebounds throughout the playoffs.

That's a great point. I believe the Kings are the best in the league at tips and deflections.

 

[Vidic15*]

I think Richards' quote is being taken out of context. I think he's trying to tell his team that there is AT LEAST one more game to play, that this isn't over yet. I could be wrong though.

Don't like the attitude at all from the locker room last night. Yeah, it's disappointing, but show some balls. Keenan summarized that perfectly last night in the postgame.

 

[bernmeister]

We can overcome fact that Hank is human.

We can gamble with more risky style of games 1 + 2 that got us goals, but easier for us to get scored on.

But we must have horses! More and better horses.
THAT is the great lesson.
When Divine Intervention decided to check out the City of Angels, it underscores what I have said, that 69 Mets, via miracles, could overcome anything; but keeping it without miracles, we need to be kick ass like the Yankees.
We need more talent.

Only move for next few games would be miller over richards, who cares what statement that makes, he's gone anyway.

Could consider somebody with more scoring for Dorsett?
Lindberg (D Moore to W) Fast? Haggerty?

 

[truebluegoalie]

for some bounces to be considered "lucky" you need to have a guy in position to retain that bounce and then bury it. Seems to have been some bounces, but no chances, for the Rangers, which to me is just a result of issues they've had for years around the net. Get them on the fly and go back and forth and not many can compete. Come inside the blueline and expect guys to grind it out around the net and it's another thing. One always says you create your own luck. LA created a bit more, and opened it up a bit more last night.

You are right but it isn't entirely accurate, especially in last night game. None of those goals came from players being in good position in front of the net, two were on the rush and one on the pp I think,I know it was a point shot msl deflected. That Richards goal reminds me of the 3v1 where the kings defender made a nice play to knock the puck away from Nash and when he stopped to try and get it he lost an edge. Our defense makes a nice play and it goes right back to Richards for an easy goal. Not to mention all the posts.

I am not using it as an excuse it is just pretty unbelievable to see

 

[Riverdale]

Even that first part of the Richards quote is disgusting. We have to play because it's on the schedule?

Get him the **** off my team.

A guy who was too lazy to work out during the lockout is considered a leader in the room...

 

[jerseyjinx94]

... a little exaggeration, no?

No, I think he's been excellent on the forecheck, using his speed, and playing with snarl. He falls down every two seconds but that fourth line has been our best line, I'm not taking Dorsett off it because Carcillo is suddenly eligible to return.

 

[Unpredictable1]

Hoping beyond hope that Lundqvist wins us game four. Just takes over and refuses to lose, no matter how we play. We need to step it up, every player. And Lundqvist is that good that he can be a rallying point.

Somehow I totally believe this team is capable--more than capable--of winning four straight, of forcing game seven at the very least. We just need to get back to who we are and how we play. We never blow leads like we have. We don't let up five goals. We don't play on our heels.

LGR

We were down 3-1 to Pittsburgh and somehow ended up 2-0 on Montreal starting in their building.

We CAN do it. Whose going to show up...

 

[jerseyjinx94]

We can overcome fact that Hank is human.

We can gamble with more risky style of games 1 + 2 that got us goals, but easier for us to get scored on.

But we must have horses! More and better horses.
THAT is the great lesson.
When Divine Intervention decided to check out the City of Angels, it underscores what I have said, that 69 Mets, via miracles, could overcome anything; but keeping it without miracles, we need to be kick ass like the Yankees.
We need more talent.

Only move for next few games would be miller over richards, who cares what statement that makes, he's gone anyway.

Could consider somebody with more scoring for Dorsett?
Lindberg (D Moore to W) Fast? Haggerty?

LOL @ Haggerty.

No. Just no. I'd be okay with Miller over Richards but that's it.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

So I guess we should have touched the prince of wales trophy...

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

So I guess we should have touched the prince of wales trophy...

I can't be the only one who was genuinely surprised that a guy like Pouliot or Girardi didn't slip and knock into it.

 

[nevesis]

“@AGrossRecord: Lundqvist on ice with Carcillo Falk Diaz Miller and Fast at optional practice for Rangers at MSG.”

 

[TheTakedown]

Theres really no need to place blame anywhere. The Rangers are getting beat by a better team with more experience, and it shows.

The Rangers had a bit of panic to their game last night - a lot of guys trying to do too much out there. The Kings are simply more versatile. They alter their play to what the situation dictates quite well, almost on a shift to shift basis. The Rangers were confronted with skill, brawn, and defense at various points last night and they had little answer, particularly at even strength.

Its the toughest thing to admit as a fan but, the Kings are simply a better team.

I think this is the primary problem... or should I say growing pain...

Many of our players are very young. Step is 23, McD is 24, Stralman is 27, BRass is 26... Playoff experience, yes we have it, but not finals experience...

But as I said last night, I don't see much reason to turn most of the roster over... This is a decent team, not a great team, but a decent team.


The point about Nash is interesting... We're able to look at Gaborik and say "damn, he's scoring so well", but then you can break down the fact that he's got a world class center on his line... Instead of offing Nash, it might not be a terrible idea to start with getting a better-than-Stepan centerman to put on his line, then move from there... Management will need to take a serious look at the D corp and decide who can net the biggest return for the smallest net loss.

We improve the center deptch at the slight expense of defense and I think we reach 3 GPG next season.

 

[Xref]

Don't like the attitude at all from the locker room last night. Yeah, it's disappointing, but show some balls. Keenan summarized that perfectly last night in the postgame.

Well, consider their emotions. They are obviously frustrated, upset, disappointed, exhausted, confused, etc. Give them time to regain themselves, I'm sure they are more upbeat today. I hope, anyway.

 

[KreiMeARiver*]

Where did you hear that he said that.

I saw it... on the post game... but he NEVER said the part about last in Rangers uniform.

He did say:

"We have to play the next game.... it's on the schedule." and it was in a very resigned, negative, awful, pathetic way.

He sounded like a beaten man representing a beaten team. Pathetic

 

[Cobra Jack*]

I thought Richter played very well against Vancouver. I also thought he was the second best goalie in the series.

Lundqvist. (played better than Richter in the finals)

I don't know what to say to something like this. Speechless, actually. When it mattered most, Richter played his tail off and got the job done. Lundqvist...not so much.

Kirk Mclean played a very good Game 1. After that, not so much. Richter out-dueled him. Richter the 2nd best goalie in the finals? 2nd best goalies don't win cups, my friend.

And to say Lundqvist is having a better finals than Richter had in 94...dude, 11 goals in 3 games. I love Lundqvist, but lets bring the spaceship back to land.

 

[TheTakedown]

This is not even remotely close to factually accurate. Arthur Imperatore wanted the Rockies in NJ as early as 1978. Finally he sold to McMullen who had the same idea, and he wanted the Rockies relocated I believe in 80 but the NHL told him cool his heels until the arena was ready

The Devils are finished with their "true rebuilding period" that's what you just saw. They didn't make the playoffs the past 2 years, but they weren't awful. Next year they will be expected to make the playoffs.

Prudential Center is one of the busiest arenas on the planet. It's rated that high annually.

Have you ever even been to Newark?

ANd expecting to make the playoffs? On the 42 year old's back known as Jagr? No... CLB, NYI, possibly WSH will be better (not banking on WSH at this time), and DET, PIT, NYR, and BOS will remain competitive...

I'd like you to tell me how the devils make the playoffs next year.. I really would, because their best player is their goalie, with average defense, and one of the worse offense corps in the league

 

[Bluenote13]

I think this is the primary problem... or should I say growing pain...

Many of our players are very young. Step is 23, McD is 24, Stralman is 27, BRass is 26... Playoff experience, yes we have it, but not finals experience....

Richards and St Louis have been huge no shows.

Ten years ago they won the Cup. And thats the thing. The Kings were in the finals two years ago and won. Messier in '94 was less than 4 years removed from his last Cup. If you bring in vets to solidify the group of youngsters with no Cup experience, it'd be nice to have some vets that can still perform at or near their previous Cup appearance.

 

[Cobra Jack*]

So I guess we should have touched the prince of wales trophy...

Nick Kypreos would have.

 

[Fugazy]

I saw it... on the post game... but he NEVER said the part about last in Rangers uniform.

He did say:

"We have to play the next game.... it's on the schedule." and it was in a very resigned, negative, awful, pathetic way."

He sounded like a beaten man representing a beaten team. Pathetic

Defacto captain my ass.

 

[Xref]

Have you ever even been to Newark?

ANd expecting to make the playoffs? On the 42 year old's back known as Jagr? No... CLB, NYI, possibly WSH will be better (not banking on WSH at this time), and DET, PIT, NYR, and BOS will remain competitive...

I'd like you to tell me how the devils make the playoffs next year.. I really would, because their best player is their goalie, with average defense, and one of the worse offense corps in the league

Kinda sounds like.....the Rangers a very short time ago.

 

[TheTakedown]

But it's not because the Kings have better players. The Rangers have fantastic, skilled players. But it's a hodgepodge of players Sather has collected over the years, rather than a team built from the ground up that plays together well.

Thanks to AV they have improved their teamwork remarkably this year and there have been many games when they've played the best hockey they've played in years. In some ways, the Rangers are victims of their own success. They have improved so quickly that perhaps the expectations are unfair.

They are clearly on the right path and I would expect them to make it deep into the playoffs every year for the next few years and win the cup on solid footing. So many talented young players. So instead of lamenting, I think we should be saying, gee, two years ago they totally sucked and now they're in the SCF. That was quick.

THANK YOU!

This is an important point. We've gotten some very good players this year that have proved to be cap controlled, talented, and young!

Guys like Zucc, D. Moore, Poo, Dorsett, they are all paid very little at this time and are producing extremely generously...

Granted some of them will need raises, some will need to be let go, but we have a team that understands and works with eachother. I hope Sather makes an effort to keep that rather than looking at stat sheets. I have a feeling that he's considering AV's input very, very profusely, and I think that alone keeps most of this roster here.

I don't see us very far from getting back to at least the ECF next year.

 

[Distortion9]

So, I realize I'm the new guy here and my opinion holds little value, but...

FWIW.

IM 45 and got into hockey in 1980 when I moved out to LI from The Bronx. This is when the Islanders were the **** and all my new friends were Islander fans. Me being the person I am, did not want to jump on their bandwagon and stuck with my city roots by following the Rangers.

Looking back now, even though I was aware of the Rangers long draught, I "only" had to wait 14 years to see them win it all. It's been 20 years since. It blows my mind that I've waited longer now than then.

Anyway....I love Lundqvist but Richter will forever be my boy. Richter delivered....Hank has not. Not yet anyway. That's just the way it is in sports, not saying I agree just stating facts. You HAVE TO deliver on a championship stage to be considered great. Sometimes even that's not enough, just look at Eli Manning. The guy is a 2 time MVP on 2 championship teams and still gets dissed. Would Mariano Rivera be as highly regarded if he gave up runs when it mattered most. No. He wouldn't. He came in and SHUT. TEAMS. DOWN. Shut em down in incredibly high pressure situations.

When you do THAT and you win as a result? That's when you're "great".

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

I get your negative. I didn't say anything other then all the bounces and non calls have gone the other way. I don't really give a crap if you think otherwise, that wasn't the reason they lost last night. I am not disputing that.

The Rangers were handed PP's hand over fist last night.

Sometimes its more about execution and less about not getting a call or a bounce. In fact, thats the case most of the time.