Yeah, Quick could be a little bit sharper when called upon to make a big save. (Although his mates could refrain from giving up 2-3 high percentage chances in the first 10 minutes.)
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Yeah, Quick could be a little bit sharper when called upon to make a big save. (Although his mates could refrain from giving up 2-3 high percentage chances in the first 10 minutes.)
Agreed. Quick should not have a save % below .900. But then again the team should be able to score more than 2 goals to give him a bit of wiggle room.
We out shot Edmonton, but through the first two periods I liked their scoring chances a hell of a lot better.
kingsfansince1967
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BTW did you also lose your bet when the Habs were in Edmonton at the beginning of the season and were shutout 3-0?
Furthermore, please let me know the next time you want to bet on a Kings game. I would sure be pleased to make some easy doe on the back of a Habs fan.
kingsfansince1967
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Okay we losses to the Oilers last night and many are just pissed off by that loss...
But the Oilers remain a much better team than their record is. I saw them at the beginning of the season beat Tampa and the Habs and they weren't bad at all, I sincerely thought this was their year to the playoffs. And if you look closer to their losing streak -20 of 21- they lost many of those games by just one goal. They have talent but the leadership is missing on that team.
It is going to be a struggle to the end, and even if this is cliché, in today's salary cap and with all the young talent coming up, it's a tough league. Up to now, only the Black Hawks seem to be in a class apart.
But the Oilers remain a much better team than their record is. I saw them at the beginning of the season beat Tampa and the Habs and they weren't bad at all, I sincerely thought this was their year to the playoffs. And if you look closer to their losing streak -20 of 21- they lost many of those games by just one goal. They have talent but the leadership is missing on that team.
It is going to be a struggle to the end, and even if this is cliché, in today's salary cap and with all the young talent coming up, it's a tough league. Up to now, only the Black Hawks seem to be in a class apart.
tsanuri
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Quick's save% is a product of the shots against just like it was at the start of the year. On most nights an NHL goalie will give up between 2-3 goals a night. And it doesn't matter if they face 10 shots or 50.
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we played well enough to keep the score close against a basement team.
I'm ready for a shake up. This is becoming too consistent. I think this team is missing youth and energy so I'm ready for a vet to go to let up a younger player. I don't want another vet coming back. Move a center, Stoll, Richards, don't care at this point and then let a younger center come up with some fire.
Some days you get outplayed and I can accept that. But this is not at all the case. Edmonton didn't have a magnificent game and neither did Calgary. Both were atrocious on their side. This team just sucks right now and Sutter can't get any more blood from this stone. I don't want to wait for Sutter to have "lost the room". This team just lacks motivation right now and they need to be reminded to show up, stick up for each other, play the puck and the man. If they don't want to, get the **** off this team.
I'm ready for a shake up. This is becoming too consistent. I think this team is missing youth and energy so I'm ready for a vet to go to let up a younger player. I don't want another vet coming back. Move a center, Stoll, Richards, don't care at this point and then let a younger center come up with some fire.
Some days you get outplayed and I can accept that. But this is not at all the case. Edmonton didn't have a magnificent game and neither did Calgary. Both were atrocious on their side. This team just sucks right now and Sutter can't get any more blood from this stone. I don't want to wait for Sutter to have "lost the room". This team just lacks motivation right now and they need to be reminded to show up, stick up for each other, play the puck and the man. If they don't want to, get the **** off this team.
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The thing is people say things like that every time we lose to a team that's not doing well. "Everyone gets up to play the champs", "That team is better than their record shows", "It's a tough league and the competition is close." The thing that worries me is it's fine to say it for a team or two here and there...but first it was the Coyotes, then it was the Flyers, then the Sabres, then the Flames two embarrassing games in one week with one being stolen from us at home, and now the Oilers. Consistently losing to teams we should be beating isn't going to cut it. And going into the playoffs last year the team was strong on the road, going in as a low seed didn't seem to matter. This year, going in without home ice advantage, if our road struggles continue into the playoffs we wont make it past the first series.
At some point it's no longer the cliché (but true) point that "even good teams lose to bad teams once in a while" and it slides into the possibility that our team is struggling and isn't championship level anymore. We lost Mitchell which hurts more than many thought it would, and losing Voynov on top of it, with so many struggling, the team as it stands now probably wouldn't do what the team did last year in the playoffs. So at some point the losses can't just be written off with clichés as much as we'd like them to be. Adjustments have to be made.
We all know the Kings struggle during the regular season and Sutter doesn't care much about the regular season, but the way the pack of teams is so tight and the way this team is struggling, we're really teetering on the edge of just missing the playoffs. At some point the team is going to go from a team that just coasts into the playoffs and then tears it up and morph into a team that struggles and just misses the playoffs. Hopefully this isn't that year.
Raccoon Jesus
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This is the easiest thing in the world to dispel. MAYBE his assist totals have been inflated by playing with top-sixers because the others sure can't finish. The guy has been a 20+ goal 50-60 point player since 07-08. His production didn't take a dive until the 2013 playoffs (after the Pominville incident) and he was clearly off last year which you can see in his skating this year. This year? His shooting percentage is half of what it normally is yet he looks better--I think he's gonna have a burst and still finish at 20 goals. Maybe more in the neighborhood of 40 points instead of 50-60 because the team around him is blowing goats too. And while I agree that 2012 was his best hockey, to pretend he just got lucky on a career year is the same thing the mainboard parrots echo.
[FIELDSET="Dustin Brown"]Seas Team GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S%
2007 Kings 81 17 29 46 -21 54 13 0 1 195 8.7
2008 Kings 78 33 27 60 -13 55 12 2 4 219 15.1
2009 Kings 80 24 29 53 -15 64 7 0 6 292 8.2
2010 Kings 82 24 32 56 -6 41 7 0 3 248 9.7
2011 Kings 82 28 29 57 17 67 7 0 2 228 12.3
2012 Kings 82 22 32 54 18 53 9 1 6 214 10.3
2013 Kings 46 18 11 29 6 22 8 0 1 142 12.7
2014 Kings 79 15 12 27 7 66 1 0 2 195 7.7
2015 Kings 38 6 6 12 -9 8 1 0 2 94 6.4
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damacles1156
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Brown would need to be with Kopitar to net 20 again.
If Sutter wants Brown to produce 20-40 again, he needs to stick him with Kopitar and leave him there.
It's not going to happen in the bottom six.
Kopitar and Carter need to produce on the road, they have been awful.
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KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
More like:
Gaborik--Kopitar--someone who can score(outside of the bedroom
)Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Reclamation Project
Cut It All Right In Two
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More like:
Gaborik--Kopitar--someone who can score(outside of the bedroom
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Reaper45
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Brown has looked much better this season and he's one of the few creating chances out there.
Putting him back with Gaborik and Kopitar is going to create more space for them and will allow Dustin to NOT carry the puck, which seems to be the major chink in his game lately. He's got the hands to bury his chances from those two and it will allow him to keep his game simple.
Gaborik-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Williams/Toffoli
King-Stoll-Toffoli/Williams
Andreoff-Richards-Lewis
Clifford/Nolan
Putting him back with Gaborik and Kopitar is going to create more space for them and will allow Dustin to NOT carry the puck, which seems to be the major chink in his game lately. He's got the hands to bury his chances from those two and it will allow him to keep his game simple.
Gaborik-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Williams/Toffoli
King-Stoll-Toffoli/Williams
Andreoff-Richards-Lewis
Clifford/Nolan
damacles1156
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Brown/Kopitar/Toffoli
Gabo/Carter/Williams (Gabo here for balance, make teams defend two lines, not one)
Pearson/Richards/Lewis (you give Richards wingers that can use speed and hustle)
King/Clifford/Stoll/Nolan
Gabo/Carter/Williams (Gabo here for balance, make teams defend two lines, not one)
Pearson/Richards/Lewis (you give Richards wingers that can use speed and hustle)
King/Clifford/Stoll/Nolan
KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
no...I'm thinking more of a kane or Kovy type 
KingsOfCali25
Start up the Tank!
Still think Sutter will keep Gaborik and Kopitar together no matter what
Gaborik--Kopitar--Scoring winger
Pearson--Carter--Toffoli
Brown--Richards--Williams
Clifford--Stoll--Lewis
Hopefully in a couple of years that scoring winger could be Prokhorkin, Kempe, or Zykov
Now that we have the last few weeks out of our system we are going to turn it around and be back to being world beaters as soon as we do. Faith I got tons of patients on the other hand......
kingsfan28
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This is exactly why his numbers are down. He needs to be in the top six or we'll see the kind of production we've been seeing. Sutters little motivation ploy the other night by putting on the 4th line won't help things one bit. This is all on Sutter right now.
damacles1156
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I don't think that's 100% the reason.
I do think Brown and Richards are shelf life players. They are on the decline.
Brown is 30 years of age with lots of bruising hockey on his body. Richards is most likely one concussion away from his career being over.
20 goals out of Brown, is expecting a lot out of him. He has 6 in 38 GP right now. 27 goals in his last 143 NHL games.
I think 14 or 15 goals is a much more realistic goal for Brown this year. That's still plenty of production from a bottom six player.
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
It is, but it's not out of the questions seeing as he put up 18 goals in 46 games 2013. To hit 20 this year, he'd need 14 in 44. He may not hit it, but his shooting percentage should come around and lead him more towards that.
Production aside he's been playing more than adequate. he's been very good. He's been one of our best players no matter what line he's been put on. He's maybe trying TOO hard but at least he's creating out there. If Doughty could have finished on his beautiful pass yesterday I guarantee there's no one *****ing about him today. I agree with you to some degree on the shelf life thing--I compare players like Brown to running backs--but that theory is failing the eye test right now. If you showed anyone game tape of Brown right now and then his stat line they wouldn't believe you.
To be honest the Brown and Kopitar stuff seems similar to me. Either guy could go on a tear any minute now and end at or near their career averages. There's more than half a season left.
damacles1156
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I just think it's much more realistic to expect around 15 goals for Brown, which is still pretty darn good. Not 5.8 million good, but it's good for Brown considering the lines change every shift almost.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
And I would be totally fine with that given he's been played all over the lineup but mostly in the bottom six.
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