GDT: Los Angeles Kings at Edmonton Oilers - December 30, 2014 - 6:30 p.m. (PST)

[damacles1156]

you're getting quite annoying.

There is an ignore feature it works pretty good.

Jake Muzzin "We are not playing Kings hockey, and we are paying for it in the standings".

Right on Muzzin.

 

[kingsfan28]

Getting the point was important, it could mean a playoff spot or seeding.

Flip side I guess is, giving a point away to teams like the Flames/Oilers/Sabres might doom the Kings.

Considering we manhandled them 6-1 at home , there was no reason this team shouldve even had to force an ot, let alone the shootout. They phoned in the first 40, including a complete cluster **** of a 5 on 3 then had to rely on a pp goal to tie it up late in the game. A better team would've shutout the Kings.

 

[AKAY47]

To all the people saying we should make a trade. Where do you see a hole on offense? The lines are absolutely stacked. We have a need on D but how do we make a trade happen when we have 0 cap space? Who gets dealt?

 

[Reclamation Project]

To all the people saying we should make a trade. Where do you see a hole on offense? The lines are absolutely stacked. We have a need on D but how do we make a trade happen when we have 0 cap space? Who gets dealt?

Richards for Webber. #rp5

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Here's the issue with this Kings team: you have 20 guys on the roster who are all streaky, and it seems to happen all at the same time. How many players on this roster have been good consistently since the start of the season? I'm not talking about one or two games off, I'm talking about stretches of 10+ games where some guys don't contribute whatsoever.

It's been happening with a lot of top players on this roster. Hell, the guys who started off hottest have cooled off quite a bit. Some guys who started slow have picked it up, and some guys are still looking like they're trying to find their game.

Williams is struggling. Pearson can't hit the net. Richards is an enigma. Quick's had a so-so December. Kopitar still takes nights off. Guys like Toffoli and Carter are shooting wide more often than they hit the net. Doughty can be a dumbass at times, as can Muzzin, McNabb and Greene. And the supposed tough guys on the team have forgotten what got them in this league in the first place.

These guys are not playing "Kings hockey." Right now they're on cruise control.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Nail meet head.

 

[damacles1156]

Here's the issue with this Kings team: you have 20 guys on the roster who are all streaky, and it seems to happen all at the same time. How many players on this roster have been good consistently since the start of the season? I'm not talking about one or two games off, I'm talking about stretches of 10+ games where some guys don't contribute whatsoever.

It's been happening with a lot of top players on this roster. Hell, the guys who started off hottest have cooled off quite a bit. Some guys who started slow have picked it up, and some guys are still looking like they're trying to find their game.

Williams is struggling. Pearson can't hit the net. Richards is an enigma. Quick's had a so-so December. Kopitar still takes nights off. Guys like Toffoli and Carter are shooting wide more often than they hit the net. Doughty can be a dumbass at times, as can Muzzin, McNabb and Greene. And the supposed tough guys on the team have forgotten what got them in this league in the first place.

These guys are not playing "Kings hockey." Right now they're on cruise control.

Pretty much what Jake Muzzin said in his presser.

Muzzin "We are not playing Kings hockey".

 

[kingsfan28]

Here's the issue with this Kings team: you have 20 guys on the roster who are all streaky, and it seems to happen all at the same time. How many players on this roster have been good consistently since the start of the season? I'm not talking about one or two games off, I'm talking about stretches of 10+ games where some guys don't contribute whatsoever.

It's been happening with a lot of top players on this roster. Hell, the guys who started off hottest have cooled off quite a bit. Some guys who started slow have picked it up, and some guys are still looking like they're trying to find their game.

Williams is struggling. Pearson can't hit the net. Richards is an enigma. Quick's had a so-so December. Kopitar still takes nights off. Guys like Toffoli and Carter are shooting wide more often than they hit the net. Doughty can be a dumbass at times, as can Muzzin, McNabb and Greene. And the supposed tough guys on the team have forgotten what got them in this league in the first place.

These guys are not playing "Kings hockey." Right now they're on cruise control.

And cruising their way out of the playoffs. If they don't start winning road games, they'll cruise right into 9th place. I just don't understand how we can watch two separate teams home and away.

 

[damacles1156]

And cruising their way out of the playoffs. If they don't start winning road games, they'll cruise right into 9th place. I just don't understand how we can watch two separate teams home and away.

The same reason guys don't go to the net score goals. Unwilling to pay the price. The Kings are not willing to up their tempo or sacrifice to win games on the road.

This seven game home stand coming up, also a good time for the Kings to practice. Work out some kinks.

 

[Steve Zissou]

See if we can pick up kovalchuk at the deadline too. And lidstrom

I like what you're thinking... going a little Major League on them. I like it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The same reason guys don't go to the net score goals. Unwilling to pay the price. The Kings are not willing to up their tempo or sacrifice to win games on the road.

This seven game home stand coming up, also a good time for the Kings to practice. Work out some kinks.

yep, i said in the other thread that theup coming homestand is where we figure out who we are and what moves the GM will make. Spring cleaning honestly.

I like what you're thinking... going a little Major League on them. I like it.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

The Kings will still make the playoffs. If the 2010 and 2011 teams could get in this Kings team will. Lombardi will make the necessary moves to get the team going again. No way management lets us miss the playoffs after the last 3 years

 

[Reclamation Project]

It's never gonna happen and the Kings will go on some incredible tear, but if they were to miss it, make it count. Go all in.

 

[damacles1156]

Honestly this home stand is coming at the perfect time. The Kings need to practice.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

This team really isn't even worth watching until post all star break. We've seen this movie before. They'll be around a wildcard spot late January, then go on a tear into the playoffs.

Like, yeah, it's embarrassing because other teams like the Ducks are the regular season champs and get all the "omg is Getzlaf approaching Crosby tier????" threads, but those teams are often giving everything they have all the way through the season.

Kings aren't even the same team pre January and post January. It's just the identity this team has made for itself.

 

[MynameisKing]

If only the Kings could get the Monarchs up to play the regular seasons and send all these chumps down, and then have have them all back for the playoffs. Ya know, so Kings fans can actually enjoy 82 + 28 or less instead of just 28 or less.

 

[damacles1156]

Update on Herby's Green jacket award.

Brown -9 (leading the way atta boy Cap)
King -9
Richards -7 (back in the race)
Kopitar -6

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Both Brown and Richards are clearly shelf life players at this point in their careers. It baffles me how anyone can point the finger at Richards without doing the same to Brown.

 

[damacles1156]

Both Brown and Richards are clearly shelf life players at this point in their careers. It baffles me how anyone can point the finger at Richards without doing the same to Brown.

Yup,

I hate to admit it, but the days of Brown scoring 20+ goals, and putting up 45+ points are over.

Brown is probably a 10-15 goal, 25-35 point player now. Still a productive player in the bottom six.

But not even close to being worth his enormous cap hit.

In fairness to Lombardi, nobody could predict Brown/Richard's production would fall off a cliff at age 29/30.

No one could see that coming. Heck Brown had a good post season last year, 14 points in 26 games.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Yup,

I hate to admit it, but the days of Brown scoring 20+ goals, and putting up 45+ points are over.

Brown is probably a 10-15 goal, 25-35 point player now. Still a productive player in the bottom six.

But not even close to being worth his enormous cap hit.

In fairness to Lombardi, nobody could predict Brown/Richard's production would fall off a cliff at age 29/30.

No one could see that coming. Heck Brown had a good post season last year, 14 points in 26 games.

Hindsight is 20/20. Richards production had been declining in Philly for three consecutive years, and it's clear now he was one concussion away from the cliff (which came on the Bergenheim hit).

Brown, well, I always believed Brown's numbers were inflated due to playing with Kopitar. I never believed Brown was anywhere close to a 30 goal top 3 forward. He's never had the hockey IQ to produce consistently past a couple career years. That 40 game stretch in 2012 between the deadline and the Cup was the best hockey he'll ever play.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Yup,

I hate to admit it, but the days of Brown scoring 20+ goals, and putting up 45+ points are over.

Brown is probably a 10-15 goal, 25-35 point player now. Still a productive player in the bottom six.

But not even close to being worth his enormous cap hit.

In fairness to Lombardi, nobody could predict Brown/Richard's production would fall off a cliff at age 29/30.

No one could see that coming. Heck Brown had a good post season last year, 14 points in 26 games.

In the 2013 regular season, 18G, 29Pts in 46 games. That's 32G, and 52Pts in 82 games.

30 goals, and 57 points in his last 161 games since the start of the 2013 playoffs, which is when Brown's offensive production started to just vanish. That's 15G, and 29Pts in 82 games.

The decreased production and play over the years from Brown and Richards has made having Carter and Gaborik a necessity, just to break even, as opposed to a luxury. The problem there of course is that Brown and Richards are taking up almost $12 million on the cap. It's a credit to Lombardi and Sutter that that hasn't hurt the Kings as much as it potentially could have. However, when Kopitar, and Carter, and Doughty, and all the rest don't play well, then the whole thing can look ugly, as that's when Brown and Richards stare you in the face.

 

[kingsfansince1967]

So the loss to Edmonton was more than predictable. The Oilers were more than due to finally beat the Kings. I'm just glad to wake up and learn that we grabbed a point out of it.

And what do you know, the Kings went over .500 in December with a 6-5-3 record.

On RDS the other night, there was some talk that many in the league would put on end to shootouts. Have a longer overtime and if it finishes in a tie game, that's how it finishes. If this would be the case this year, LAK would be only 4 points out of first place. SO are killing us.

Well, approaching first-half of the season, momentum will be coming up, I guess, somewhere end of February, beginning of March. But the team better watch out, the way other teams in the conference are playing and hanging in there, it could be too little too late.

But I guess, isn't that a little bit what it'a about to be a LA Kings fan: we are a little bit masochist aren't we?

Happy 2015 everybody!

 

[KingsFan7824]

A total of 36 shots against in the last 2 games, and Quick has a .889sv%. In Quick's last 7 road games, dating back to 11/22/14, it's 20 goals against, on 163 shots, for a .877sv%. The Kings are giving up an average of 23 shots per game in those 7 games. The Kings are 1-4-2 in those games. In Quick's last 7 home games, dating back to 11/29/14, it's 16 goals, on 166 shots, for a .904sv%. An average of 24 shots per game, and the Kings are 4-2-1.

Doughty now leading the team in road scoring this year, with 12 points in 18 games. Tied for 3rd on the team in road scoring? Still Brown and Richards somehow. Both tied with Toffoli at 4 goals and 8 points. Carter? 12th on the team, with 1 goal and 6 points in 18 games, and a -8. Kopitar is 13th, with 2 goals and 5 points in 15 games, with a team worst -10.

Hockey can be a crazy game. The Kings went up 2-0 starting every series on the road in 2012, finished with a 10-1 road record. In 2013? 1-8 on the road in the playoffs. In 2014? Won 3 Game 7's on the road. This year? It's looking like a mess again.

 

[YP44]

The game was frustrating as all hell to watch.
But I am not to concerned with only getting one point on the tail end of a back to back with the flue running through the team.
The team needs to come out stronger in the first (captain obvious). LA dominated the second half of the game, but edmonton was in prevent mode by then.

 

[BigKing]

Hey *******...how about starting a fight once in awhile? I think that is why Clifford and Nolan sat last night because they pussed out all over the Calgary ice on Monday.

Bollig crushes Kopitar at Staples last Monday and all this team can muster is a weak slash that leads to a PP goal against. Then they let Bollig do whatever he wanted to two nights ago and Nolan and Clifford looked pathetic. Calgary shot the puck after the whistle twice and nobody did a thing about it.

Doan smashes a slapshot over Quick's head after the final buzzer? Should be a riot.

Kopitar gets smashed by the other team's goon? RIOT.

Reaves takes a cheapshot at Lewis in the waning moments of a 5-2 loss in St. Louis with Clifford on the ice? Riot, right? Oh, just more of the same *****footing around.

This team is lifeless and it is disgusting. Toffoli appears to be the toughest player on the team right now which is comical.

Bottom line is teams are doing what they want against the Kings because they know there won't be an answer except for the Kings to try to get even on the scoreboard.

Ducks are in 1st place so don't tell me that being a team that drops the gloves means you are in the basement. I'm going to throw up if I see Kopitar hit again this year like he was against the Wild and then by Bollig and have the only response be a "show fight" from Richards and a half-assed slash from Carter.

Crusher-rusher-usher. After Nolan's performance on Monday, I feel he is already at the usher stage. Clifford is next if he doesn't pull his head out. No surprise to see Andreoff last night instead of these two and no surprise to see him out there trying to stir things up because he was put in to do what the aforementioned kitty cats have not been doing.